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GetterDragun wrote:I would counter that argument and say that much of the Energon Ultra Manguses were absorbed by the regular consumer market. So while the quantity produced is fairly high, what is available to the collector market is less than produced.
kirbenvost wrote:omega666 wrote:I hope your TC gets lost in the mail.
That's a little harsh.
kirbenvost wrote:Sunstar wrote:kirbenvost wrote:Fan to Fan is asking $45 USD per figure plus shipping.
Out of curiosity, what is their shipping like anyway?
He quoted:
"EMS, fastest air with online tracking, US$23.34
SAL, low priority air with registration number, US$16.50"
But that is an estimate based the amount for Henkei Starscream. The final shipping cost may be more if the packaging ends up being bigger/heavier.
Counterpunch wrote:GetterDragun wrote:I would counter that argument and say that much of the Energon Ultra Manguses were absorbed by the regular consumer market. So while the quantity produced is fairly high, what is available to the collector market is less than produced.
C'mon now. You remember damn well what happened with that Ultra Magnus hit the market. It was gone before it was on the shelf in most places.
While I certainly recognize that regular mom's and kids are the primary buyers of Transformers in the US, there is no way that a non-show, low production run, ultra class repaint of a straigh G1 homage was bought up by anyone other than collectors.
I know you're upset at the situation, but it's not like FunPub had any real control over the matter. As far as the US is concerned, TC is still an exclusive. Henkei TC's release is basically the equivilant of a Japanese BotCon release. From the beginning I've said that the only truely unfair thing about TC being in the BotCon set was that international buyers didn't get a shot at him.
To cut the knees out of the argument, it isn't even like TC is getting a general line Henkei release. He is and remains exclusive. While it might seem like everyone and their mother is ordering one, we the fan base make up a pretty small number of people comparitively.
kirbenvost wrote:Sunstar wrote:kirbenvost wrote:Fan to Fan is asking $45 USD per figure plus shipping.
Out of curiosity, what is their shipping like anyway?
He quoted:
"EMS, fastest air with online tracking, US$23.34
SAL, low priority air with registration number, US$16.50"
But that is an estimate based the amount for Henkei Starscream. The final shipping cost may be more if the packaging ends up being bigger/heavier.
GetterDragun wrote:Counterpunch wrote:GetterDragun wrote:I would counter that argument and say that much of the Energon Ultra Manguses were absorbed by the regular consumer market. So while the quantity produced is fairly high, what is available to the collector market is less than produced.
C'mon now. You remember damn well what happened with that Ultra Magnus hit the market. It was gone before it was on the shelf in most places.
While I certainly recognize that regular mom's and kids are the primary buyers of Transformers in the US, there is no way that a non-show, low production run, ultra class repaint of a straigh G1 homage was bought up by anyone other than collectors.
I know you're upset at the situation, but it's not like FunPub had any real control over the matter. As far as the US is concerned, TC is still an exclusive. Henkei TC's release is basically the equivilant of a Japanese BotCon release. From the beginning I've said that the only truely unfair thing about TC being in the BotCon set was that international buyers didn't get a shot at him.
To cut the knees out of the argument, it isn't even like TC is getting a general line Henkei release. He is and remains exclusive. While it might seem like everyone and their mother is ordering one, we the fan base make up a pretty small number of people comparitively.
I have no problem with the value or any of that. My problem is how BotCon TC was suuposed to be an "exclusive" and how at BotCon, they said that the Henkei version would be different enough to not effect the value of the BotCon TC. There was no need to say that if it wasn't true. Is being honest too much to ask?
Sledge wrote:kirbenvost wrote:omega666 wrote:I hope your TC gets lost in the mail.
That's a little harsh.
To be fair, I did say I hoped Unicron ate him.
Electron wrote:sledge your comments are like a fat chick raping a hot dog, its unpleasent to watch but in the end its gonna happen
Mr O wrote:I'm part Irish, part Scottish, very Welsh, mostly drunk, somewhat Transformers nerd and all bastard.
Dealer wrote:It's like going to a kids birthday party just to tell the kid you hate him/her.
Dealer wrote:
If someone doesn't like what's being discussed, why join in?
It's like going to a kids birthday party just to tell the kid you hate him/her.
Counterpunch wrote:Dealer wrote:It's like going to a kids birthday party just to tell the kid you hate him/her.
My birthday is like this every year.
Sledge wrote:To be fair, I did say I hoped Unicron ate him.
ZenPrime wrote:For those that preodered from Fan2Fan, I went to the site and can not find the preorder for TC anywhere.....
Dealer wrote:If someone doesn't like what's being discussed, why join in?
It's like going to a kids birthday party just to tell the kid you hate him/her.
It Is Him wrote:Damn. Caught this too late.
Sowndwave76 wrote:I seriously don't care how many people talked to how ever many people that were involved with designing/producing the Botcon set.
NotEnoughKibble wrote:It Is Him wrote:Damn. Caught this too late.
Looks like it's available again for pre-order...
Counterpunch wrote:Woe, WOE unto me and the unfair nature of my current situation. Woe to me and my inability to respond adequately to the above statement.
For while it is cool for you to complain about your situation, my response would be seen as terrbily mean and elitist.
I honestly feel bad for myself. My minority rights (being the owner of BC Thundercracker) are being trampled on, for to express my viewpoint on the matter is quite wrong indeed.
What am I saying? It's like I forgot who I was there for a second.
You essentially call me out on the matter because I and a few others went and got factual answers on the subject.
You ignore reasonable responses and basic facts about the situation.
At this point, you're essentially trolling the topic.
Would you care to debate the matter with me openly on these forums? I'll do it. We can lay it all out on the line, go over everything one final time and see where it gets us.
These little rants in the face of known facts and quantities about the Thundercracker situation are becoming nothing but thinly veiled attempts at Trolling. Either find some genuine way to contribute, buy a Henkei Thundercracker, or knock it the hell off.
(and that debate offer, it's genuine. Any time. I'm your Huckleberry.)
Sowndwave76 wrote:Hold on... My whole point is that Hasbro was extremely foolish for releasing these characters as exclusives.
Saying "I don't care how many people...." was not meant to call any individual out. What would be the point of that?
I've already said that I believe those conversations that you and others had with whoever were legit.
What I meant is that it obviously doesn't matter what was said back then, and it doesn't matter how many people heard it.
If you felt I was "trolling", then I apologize...
And I'm not sure what there is to debate.
With whatever facts you know about any of this, I personally think boils down to this:
"The Classics line is dead", and "These Seekers are exclusive to this Botcon convention"...
Looking at the current situation, seems to me that Hasbro should've never made these statements.
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