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Defections: still possible?

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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Burn » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:21 pm

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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Rat Convoy » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:32 pm

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Absolute Zero wrote:As long as the beast factions are in the game, they're going to need numbers. If high people switch over, it will likely upset people, but, at the sametime, it'd also help the other factions because suddenly, there's more competition, and that means more XP, and if the people who switch happen to be going into level 2, that means even more XP for level 1s who manage to hit them. More XP then they would have gotten from beating a bunch of level 1s.


Oh great, this brings up another problem. We get our asses kicked for weeks, letting someone climb up to level 2 by stepping on our heads, and when they finally get high enough above us that fighting them will pay off for us, they defect to our side, so we can't shoot at them anymore. Given, that should still leave some level 2s in the other factions to shoot at, but nontheless I have less than complete confidence in this plan.

Psychout wrote:It just means the 'cons will get to shoot at Tammuz.


Which is absolutely wonderful for the Decepticons, but they don't really need any more help.


The addition of a highly active player will help the Preds far more than it will help the Cons to have Tammuz to shoot at. The Preds problem (and ours) isn't levels or XP, but numbers - the ability to fill those missions.

Anyone who would whine that Tammuz gets to come in after building XP as a Decepticon first is the sort of person who obviously likes to shoot themselves in the foot, because it would help them more than the loss of a ranking would hinder them.

EDIT: You know, even though the numbers say we now have 146 Maximal players (thanks Psychout and whoever else contributed for that announcement), I think a grand total of four of us are actually playing right now.
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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Malicron » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:34 pm

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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Tammuz » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:38 pm

Rat Convoy wrote:
The addition of a highly active player will help the Preds far more than it will help the Cons to have Tammuz to shoot at. The Preds problem (and ours) isn't levels or XP, but numbers - the ability to fill those missions.

Anyone who would whine that Tammuz gets to come in after building XP as a Decepticon first is the sort of person who obviously likes to shoot themselves in the foot, because it would help them more than the loss of a ranking would hinder them.

EDIT: You know, even though the numbers say we now have 146 Maximal players (thanks Psychout and whoever else contributed for that announcement), I think a grand total of four of us are actually playing right now.


Case in point

and the actual numbers of the factions FYI
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Re: Defections: still possible?

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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Tammuz » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:45 pm

yeah, there's alot of "non-existent" pages.
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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Malicron » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:47 pm

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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Rat Convoy » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:49 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:I never even knew that page existed! O.O


I check that page all the time, it's great.
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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Tammuz » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:50 pm

find my arse. i bookmark when i see them. you'd be surprised as to how much you can learn by just reading the forums.
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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Absolute Zero » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:55 pm

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Who needs to bookmark stuff when we have you for the information?
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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Tammuz » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:59 pm

gah! next you'll be trying to pump me.
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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Psychout » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:06 pm

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Ratty wrote:Anyone who would whine that Tammuz gets to come in after building XP as a Decepticon first is the sort of person who obviously likes to shoot themselves in the foot, because it would help them more than the loss of a ranking would hinder them.
^^ the point I was trying to make, Cheers.

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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Malicron » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:11 pm

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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Absolute Zero » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:16 pm

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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Tammuz » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:40 pm

ok, had a twiddle with Mkall, apparently the mod panel's dead so the onlt person who can swap people faction is OS, whose busy.
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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Edgecrusher » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:18 pm

Tammuz wrote:ok, had a twiddle with Mkall, apparently the mod panel's dead so the onlt person who can swap people faction is OS, whose busy.

busy with what? :P
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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Starlock » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:08 pm

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I say wait at least for the new start to be a month old before making any switches. While I agree at moment switching is needed it seems to be shifting a bit more to somewhat on occasion equal grounds. I see more full missions and even occasional no competition free 100 xp ones lately compare to first two weeks. If go by ranks top 50 has more red in it now and the top 100 actually has green represented. :P

So in over a week it be a month old and change a bit more, although still won't be balance we would have decent idea on how much defecting needed. At least until it changes more again toward either way, yeah I see OS being bugged if that mod panel thing for this is not working for some time.
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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Dr. Caelus » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:15 pm

Tammuz wrote:yeah, there's alot of "non-existent" pages.


You have no idea.
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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Malicron » Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:35 pm

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You have no idea.

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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby steve2275 » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:07 am

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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Absolute Zero » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:30 am

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Edgecrusher wrote:tammy join the dark side and together we will rule hmw as master and servant :P :twisted:
and who is who again?


You can be Edge's mistress if you come join the Preds. We have milk and cookies too. And cake. This cake is moist and delicious.
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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby steve2275 » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:59 am

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no thanks
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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Absolute Zero » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:09 am

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That's ok. We have those too... or some of us do.
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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Psychout » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:21 am

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and who is who again?


You can be Edge's mistress if you come join the Preds. We have milk and cookies too. And cake. This cake is moist and delicious.

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Re: Defections: still possible?

Postby Kaijubot » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:26 am

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