Decepticon Stryker wrote:Dinobot4ever wrote:
The Matrix of Leadersip not residing in Optimus' superstructure - he is not a Prime without it and would, in fact, still be Orion Pax.
Galvatron was created by a Steve Jobs-like character - he was created by Unicron.
The Allspark is a metaphysical, quasi-religous concept ... In Bayverse it is crossed up with an energon cube and given a physical existence.
A red European sportscar alt-mode character is introduced in the Bayverse called "Dino" when it should have obviously been Sideswipe. And to further screw things up, Sideswipe is introduced in the next movie ... as a silver Corvette concept alt-mode?!?
1. Animated proves you don't need a Mcguffin in order to be Prime.
2. Not the first time Galvatron was created by someone other than Unicron: IDW, Robots in Disguise, and the Unicron Trilogy are good examples.
3. ...Yeah I agree with you on this.
4. This sounds very nitpicky, but Sideswipe was introduced into the Bayverse before Dino, and also it's not the first (and I doubt it'll be the last) time Sideswipe wasn't red.
Just because it wasn't like the source material doesnt mean it's stupid. I could see a good story where humans being their typical idiotc selves accidentally upgrading Megatron's corpse into Galvatron. Now don't get me wrong, the Bayverse has hundreds of thousands of flaws; but it's still Transformers. Just a very very flawed version, like if Carnage in C Minor was the best thing to happen to Transformers kind of flawed.
1. Not sure what you mean by your Animated reference. Are you talking about the Hod Rod/Rodimus character? I think he was named Rodimus Minor, not Prime. Forgive my memory on Animated … I haven't revisited that series since it first aired. The Jay Leno chins, microwaists, and other distorted anatomy aesthetic was hard to watch for me. Good story though.
2. IDW - I'll grudgingly give you this one. As with any long-standing comic that has multiple titles under the main heading, there are a lot different takes on the subject matter, often conflicting or not making any sense in light of what proceeded. Also, as is typical, a lot "What ifs" stories are incorporated. Shattered Glass being the one that immediately jumps to mind. They have to come up with something interesting to fill all those volumes of comics! I take IDW as almost a paralleling TF universe with mild bleed through (i.e. Wreckers and Windblade).
RID/Car Robots was Gigatron and "Devil" Gigatron to be correct. Different character from Megatron/Galvatron. Therein lies the danger of dubbing ... information is lost from the original material, including emotion of the voice actor. That is why I prefer subtitles if I don't speak the language.
Cybertron/Galaxy Force - Unicron was the driving force in the transformation. My Unicron Trilogy is a little rusty but the black arua that Megatron had forming around him when he was on the Giant Planet was Unicron's energy. Coupled with his rage, he formed into Galavatron. Not the overt manner as in the 1986 movie but still Unicron-driven.
4. In the VAST majority of Sideswipe appearances since 1984, he has been a red Lambo or Lambo-like car. If Bayverse would have made him a black Lambo or Lambo-like car, I'd give them some serious G2-inspired points! But we got silver because red was already taken by the Dino character.
I did not say the Bayverse was "stupid" but I do agree it is quite flawed. That is why I distance myself from it.