Counterpunch wrote:Pay more to avoid weathering paint apps?
Uhg...
Fine.
Sideswipe has the weathering so it’s probaky just takara painted proto
Counterpunch wrote:Pay more to avoid weathering paint apps?
Uhg...
Fine.
Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)
Emerje wrote:Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)
It's a new mold, not an upscale.
Emerje
Octobotimus wrote:Emerje wrote:Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)
It's a new mold, not an upscale.
Emerje
its literally the same mold upscaled.... (the freaking thing transforms the same and has the same molding). i feel like there is some denial here purely cause i mentioned they ripped off a ko.
Octobotimus wrote:Emerje wrote:Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)
It's a new mold, not an upscale.
Emerje
its literally the same mold upscaled....
william-james88 wrote:The fandom is currently puzzled over the new reveal from Takara Tomy of an Evasion Mode Optimus Prime toy for their upcoming Transformers Bumblebee Movie toyline. How different is it from the previous mold? How much of a retool is it, along with it being an upscale? Well, from certain angles, the changes seem minimal, but at others, as you will see, it might be a completely new mold sharing some transformation steps.
By comparing to images of the Age of Extinction toy, you will notice that everything related to the arms is completely different. The shoulder armour is made of individual pieces, giving further proof that this does have a parts count more akin to a leader class toy. The forearms are completely different too and none of the details match.
Another huge difference, where it seems the transformation itself differs, is when we look at the back. Not only does the back of the top half have different pieces, but in the legs we can see that instead of him having two wheels at his calves, he has two wheels near his hips. So, judging by all this, it is far more likely that this is a new mold using some tricks and design cues of the first toy, like the foot transformation.
These new photos come to us from the Toyswalker facebook page.
Overcracker wrote:Octobotimus wrote:Emerje wrote:Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)
It's a new mold, not an upscale.
Emerje
its literally the same mold upscaled....
It's literally not the same mold.
There are enough engineering, transformation, and detailing differences to negate that.
Things end up in very different places.
It looks the same, because its meant to look the same, same robot mode and same truck mode, but its not the same mold, upscaled by a long shot.
Quoting WJ, from the Bumblebee Movie thread:william-james88 wrote:The fandom is currently puzzled over the new reveal from Takara Tomy of an Evasion Mode Optimus Prime toy for their upcoming Transformers Bumblebee Movie toyline. How different is it from the previous mold? How much of a retool is it, along with it being an upscale? Well, from certain angles, the changes seem minimal, but at others, as you will see, it might be a completely new mold sharing some transformation steps.
By comparing to images of the Age of Extinction toy, you will notice that everything related to the arms is completely different. The shoulder armour is made of individual pieces, giving further proof that this does have a parts count more akin to a leader class toy. The forearms are completely different too and none of the details match.
Another huge difference, where it seems the transformation itself differs, is when we look at the back. Not only does the back of the top half have different pieces, but in the legs we can see that instead of him having two wheels at his calves, he has two wheels near his hips. So, judging by all this, it is far more likely that this is a new mold using some tricks and design cues of the first toy, like the foot transformation.
These new photos come to us from the Toyswalker facebook page.
Octobotimus wrote:if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.
Octobotimus wrote:Overcracker wrote:Octobotimus wrote:Emerje wrote:Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)
It's a new mold, not an upscale.
Emerje
its literally the same mold upscaled....
It's literally not the same mold.
There are enough engineering, transformation, and detailing differences to negate that.
Things end up in very different places.
It looks the same, because its meant to look the same, same robot mode and same truck mode, but its not the same mold, upscaled by a long shot.
Quoting WJ, from the Bumblebee Movie thread:william-james88 wrote:The fandom is currently puzzled over the new reveal from Takara Tomy of an Evasion Mode Optimus Prime toy for their upcoming Transformers Bumblebee Movie toyline. How different is it from the previous mold? How much of a retool is it, along with it being an upscale? Well, from certain angles, the changes seem minimal, but at others, as you will see, it might be a completely new mold sharing some transformation steps.
By comparing to images of the Age of Extinction toy, you will notice that everything related to the arms is completely different. The shoulder armour is made of individual pieces, giving further proof that this does have a parts count more akin to a leader class toy. The forearms are completely different too and none of the details match.
Another huge difference, where it seems the transformation itself differs, is when we look at the back. Not only does the back of the top half have different pieces, but in the legs we can see that instead of him having two wheels at his calves, he has two wheels near his hips. So, judging by all this, it is far more likely that this is a new mold using some tricks and design cues of the first toy, like the foot transformation.
These new photos come to us from the Toyswalker facebook page.
if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.
Octobotimus wrote:if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.
Overcracker wrote:Octobotimus wrote:if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.
I do own the mold, and that's why I know its not the same mold.
Do you not see the difference in shoulders, the difference in where one set of wheels ends up on the thighs instead of the lower legs, the difference in back panels. Feet are different, head is different, the upper legs are similar but clearly not the same, the lower legs are different. He has hinges on his side view mirrors.
Yes, there are similarities in transformation, and engineering, its the same truck mode, transforming into the same robot mode sure, but the overall mold has very little of the Voyager Evasion Mode Prime.
That's like saying these 2 are the same toy, and Leader Class Megatron is just upscaled from the voyager toy.
Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.
I'm with octobotimus on this one. They definitely used the evasion Optimus as the basis for this figure. You can see the same panel lines on the cab of the truck. His feet also end up on the same place as the Voyager and his arms also have the front windows on them, again, just like the evasion mode Prime. They just took that mold, upscaled it and improved upon it.Octobotimus wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.
Ok, pls make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.
Octobotimus wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.
Ok, please make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.
Octobotimus wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.
Ok, pls make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.
Overcracker wrote:Octobotimus wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.
Ok, pls make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.
Did you miss all the comparison pictures above showing the differences?
Leader Class Legendary
Voyager Evasion Mode
Nore the hinged gray panel in the middle which does not exist on the Evasion Mode Prime.
Leader Class Legendary
Voyager Evasion Mode
Notice the shoulder pieces are separate pieces to the actual shoulder joint where Evasion Mode has a molded shoulder.
Notice the bicep pieces are completely different between the two of them.
Notice the forearms have more panels on Legendary, than on Evasion, and do not have the panel covering the hand.
Notice how the hands are articulated, instead of being molded in one piece.
Leader Class Legendary
Voyager Evasion Mode
Notice the back panel is different. Being larger on Legendary than on Evasion, and having to extra blue panels.
Notice how the the crotch piece is while very similar not the same. With an L shaped groove on Legendary.
Notice how the lower legs are a completely different mold, do not have the second tire, and also do not appear to rotate like Evasion Mode's legs did for transformation. They transform some other way. Unclear how yet.
Notice how even the backs of the feet are different.
The Gas tanks rotate on Legendary where they don't on Evasion Mode.
If you think Voyager Megatron, and Leader Megatron do not share any detailing, then I don't know what to tell you anymore.
Even with all of these changes, this figure still has way to much in common with the Evasion to be a new mold. If this is a new mold, than the Wei Jiang version can't be called a KO either.Overcracker wrote:Octobotimus wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.
Ok, pls make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.
Did you miss all the comparison pictures above showing the differences?
Leader Class Legendary
Voyager Evasion Mode
Nore the hinged gray panel in the middle which does not exist on the Evasion Mode Prime.
Leader Class Legendary
Voyager Evasion Mode
Notice the shoulder pieces are separate pieces to the actual shoulder joint where Evasion Mode has a molded shoulder.
Notice the bicep pieces are completely different between the two of them.
Notice the forearms have more panels on Legendary, than on Evasion, and do not have the panel covering the hand.
Notice how the hands are articulated, instead of being molded in one piece.
Leader Class Legendary
Voyager Evasion Mode
Notice the back panel is different. Being larger on Legendary than on Evasion, and having to extra blue panels.
Notice how the the crotch piece is while very similar not the same. With an L shaped groove on Legendary.
Notice how the lower legs are a completely different mold, do not have the second tire, and also do not appear to rotate like Evasion Mode's legs did for transformation. They transform some other way. Unclear how yet.
Notice how even the backs of the feet are different.
The Gas tanks rotate on Legendary where they don't on Evasion Mode.
If you think Voyager Megatron, and Leader Megatron do not share any detailing, then I don't know what to tell you anymore.
autobot00 wrote:so when was master piece hound announced?
that is hound in the group shot of MP's isnt it?
Octobotimus wrote:if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.
william-james88 wrote:Octobotimus wrote:if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.
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