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Postby 1337W422102 » Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:45 am

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Sonray wrote:Ahh, people who are stuck in the past and cant move on with the modern times....how cute. :roll:

I guess that means I can't wear the pants I bought 2 years ago, because I'd be 'stuck in the past.' I better throw out all of my Beatles records - scratch that, all my records because it's a crime to be 'stuck in the past.' I'll be right back, I'm just going to go throw away my NES, Super Nintendo and all of their games and accessories.

Oh, woe is me! Why, oh why, did I ever decided to appreciate oldschool things!
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Postby Sonray » Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:47 am

Its not a flame war i just asked a question, i wanna see his work.

And the re-paint thing is a difference in opinion. Flaming is when people start swearing at each otehr and calling people names. Trust me, this isnt even an ice war, its freezing here, no flames exsist we are just discussing shtuffs.
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Postby Sonray » Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:50 am

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Sonray wrote:Ahh, people who are stuck in the past and cant move on with the modern times....how cute. :roll:

I guess that means I can't wear the pants I bought 2 years ago, because I'd be 'stuck in the past.' I better throw out all of my Beatles records - scratch that, all my records because it's a crime to be 'stuck in the past.' I'll be right back, I'm just going to go throw away my NES, Super Nintendo and all of their games and accessories.

Oh, woe is me! Why, oh why, did I ever decided to appreciate oldschool things!


Yes, throw out ALL nintendo products!!! BOOOO!!!!!! :P

Hmm...i love the smell of sarcasm in the morning....smells like.......actually im stuck on this one help me out here?
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Postby GetterDragun » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:31 am

Sonray wrote:
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reanimate28 wrote:
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As a car customiser, these paint schemes dont work for these types of real world cars. And since many bots bot modes still retain many aspects of their alt modes then the paint schemes also dont suit the new generation of characters.

So am i to assume that everyone here wants 80's paint schemes on 2007, revamped, new generation transformers?


Despite being unrealistic, this repaint Jazz looks a lot better than dull grey Jazz. And I think many people would rather have a fun looking toy than a realistic looking toy.

Jazz's G1 color scheme has rarely been seen other than the reissue. The only other time in recent years that aren't statues is the Spychanger Jazz. G1 colored Starscreams have been overdone. G1 colored Jazzs haven't. G1 colored Ratchets haven't been overdone either.

So allow us to enjoy our G1 colored Jazz.

Also, there have been mentions of G1 skins in the Transformers movie game. I assume its referring to these repaints than the actual G1 designs.



Yeah i second that! I have been waiting for a nice Jazz like this. I think all the G1 paint schemes were really good and well thought out at the time, they simply rock, not like all that corny neon **** that came after. Does anyone know when this will hit the stores or is it still months and months away?


Ahh, people who are stuck in the past and cant move on with the modern times....how cute. :roll:


Um, why can't we have out own opinions. And you are completely wrong about the paint jobs on Modern vehicles, that's actually becoming quite popular on new cars.

But what do I know about car customizing...

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Oh yea, I also got asked to lend one of my cars to a little movie called "The Fast and the Furious", but I said no, cause I would have been without it for 6 months.


Then surely you would notice that on a stock car, these custom paint jobs do not work. Maybe with an added bodykit, race car spoiler and rims yeah, like the original jazz alt mode, but on a stock pontiac solstice that race car paint job simply doesnt work.


I didn't say stock, I said modern. But if you are talking stock, I do include factory accessories, and here is a good example of an old paint scheme on a new factory car:

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Sonray wrote:Well done on the car thing, but id need to see some pictures and proof before i beleive that. You can understand my doubts when i see someone with so much succes with cars spending their time moderating a transformers forum.


First, I stopped modifying cars as a main hobby 4 years ago. I do still have the urge to get back into it and do have a very modified NSX (it is setup for road racing, but looks cool as well). I'll take pics when I get home from work, if it isn't too late (I work 12 to 14 hours a day, hence Seibertron is a nice break from a very stressful job).

The main show car I had from a few years back was a Turbocharged Lexus IS300. Looks were geared not to be crazy, but to suggest the car was fast. Car was intended to be a good looking drag cars, but new emission laws forced me to remove the engine management so I could have OBD 2 back...which killed the power. In summation, it was basically a Supra powered Lexus:

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Car after that was a Subaru STi, nothing done externally, but it had upgraded suspension, breaks, engine management, turbo (48lb), and other stuff.

THen I got bored of the roughness of it since all my driving was too and from work (and the NSX is more fun), so I got another Lexus, I'll porbably modify it as well, and I am thinking of getting another Lexus (older SC300) to build a drag car.

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Postby flashmech » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:16 pm

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Postby reanimate28 » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:25 pm

hey I bought baricade and brawl today I passed on Jazz becuz I liked the G1 paint I hope that one comes out soon. As for being stuck in the past I dont think so... I have to say that the g1 paint job looks way better then plain grey I understand why they left it grey for the movie, becuz Bay wanted realistic and GM prolly wanted to keep it close to how a real solstice is painted even though its got that body kit and hardtop added. I guess he would have stuck out to much colored in G1. I donno i mean OPTI has those flames but again hes is not a GM so he could get any paint job they wanted to throw on him. anyway i have to say that the toys I bought are pretty turdy I mean brawls arm connectors dont stick to his body and baricade barely can stand up. they look cool but the posing on them is really poopy i can see a kid whipping it against the wall because he wont stay transformed, the joints are loose and they dont feel as sturdy as most of the classics line. uh oh I said classic.... hey I guess I am stuck in the past then..... Even though I am only 21. G1 Forever
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Postby Counterpunch » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:25 pm

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Jazz has stupid arms.

It needs to be said.

Repeatedly.
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Postby Godmodule » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:27 pm

Wow, I really like that Jazz. Starscream still sucks though.
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Postby decepticonjon » Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:28 pm

Counterpunch wrote:Jazz has stupid arms.

It needs to be said.

Repeatedly.


whuahahahah :lol:
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Postby NightFall » Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:48 pm

Wow, Jazz looks a lot nicer, but Starscream is still crap.
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Postby Darth Screamer » Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:54 pm

Homer Jay wrote:Thank you, Hasbro.

Thank you.


I hope they don't crap on us like they normally do.
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Postby 1337W422102 » Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:01 pm

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Homer Jay wrote:Thank you, Hasbro.

Thank you.


I hope they don't crap on us like they normally do.

Yeah, like make it some kind of exclusive... Grrr!
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Postby MaikeruSama » Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:16 pm

1337W422102 wrote:
CUY'VAL DAR wrote:
Homer Jay wrote:Thank you, Hasbro.

Thank you.


I hope they don't crap on us like they normally do.

Yeah, like make it some kind of exclusive... Grrr!



I hope they are all botcon exclusives.
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Postby MaikeruSama » Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:21 pm

Sonray wrote:Its not a flame war i just asked a question, i wanna see his work.

And the re-paint thing is a difference in opinion. Flaming is when people start swearing at each otehr and calling people names. Trust me, this isnt even an ice war, its freezing here, no flames exsist we are just discussing shtuffs.


Anything concerning the movie and g1 together will be a flame war. I mean I love the movie designs but I hate the hell outa g1 and i do agree with your stuck in the past thing about transformers i mean g1 is over and if you want it to come back buy all the dvds and watch them till you die leting no new ideas come in. Another thing is hey you say you hate g1 (like me) and you get flamed. You say you hate bay nothing happens.I dont like these repaints ill stick with the movie.
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Postby 1337W422102 » Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:21 pm

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1337W422102 wrote:
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Homer Jay wrote:Thank you, Hasbro.

Thank you.


I hope they don't crap on us like they normally do.

Yeah, like make it some kind of exclusive... Grrr!



I hope they are all botcon exclusives.

Unlikely, we already know the exclusives are the Classic repaints.

If I do manage to get this Jazz, I think I'll remove the doors from his legs and find a way to make them clip onto his shoulders in robot mode. Granted, they'd most likely have to be removed and re-attached so he could transform, but at least it would look better and improve his leg articulation (from what I've heard).
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Postby MaikeruSama » Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:39 pm

1337W422102 wrote:
NightFlare wrote:
1337W422102 wrote:
CUY'VAL DAR wrote:
Homer Jay wrote:Thank you, Hasbro.

Thank you.


I hope they don't crap on us like they normally do.

Yeah, like make it some kind of exclusive... Grrr!



I hope they are all botcon exclusives.

Unlikely, we already know the exclusives are the Classic repaints.

If I do manage to get this Jazz, I think I'll remove the doors from his legs and find a way to make them clip onto his shoulders in robot mode. Granted, they'd most likely have to be removed and re-attached so he could transform, but at least it would look better and improve his leg articulation (from what I've heard).



I dunno i kinda figured they would be exclusives but i really dont know i mean hasbro slaps 20 dolloras one changes the colors and well people buy them so I would not be to surprised.
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Postby Sonray » Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:42 pm

NightFlare wrote:
Sonray wrote:Its not a flame war i just asked a question, i wanna see his work.

And the re-paint thing is a difference in opinion. Flaming is when people start swearing at each otehr and calling people names. Trust me, this isnt even an ice war, its freezing here, no flames exsist we are just discussing shtuffs.


Anything concerning the movie and g1 together will be a flame war. I mean I love the movie designs but I hate the hell outa g1 and i do agree with your stuck in the past thing about transformers i mean g1 is over and if you want it to come back buy all the dvds and watch them till you die leting no new ideas come in. Another thing is hey you say you hate g1 (like me) and you get flamed. You say you hate bay nothing happens.I dont like these repaints ill stick with the movie.


Oh but i dont hate G1, i love it! I mean how couldnt ya? I also love the movie though, but i also like to move along with new ideas and technology and designs and not just keep demanding the same stuff be recycled over and over again.
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Postby Sonray » Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:44 pm

Getterdragun:

Thpse pics are very nice, cant say im much of a lexus fan though. That must be one hell of an expensive hobby though you must be rolling in it!

I mostly specialize and body restoration and paint sdo i dont know much about the mechanics of these things.
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Postby MaikeruSama » Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:46 pm

Sonray wrote:
NightFlare wrote:
Sonray wrote:Its not a flame war i just asked a question, i wanna see his work.

And the re-paint thing is a difference in opinion. Flaming is when people start swearing at each otehr and calling people names. Trust me, this isnt even an ice war, its freezing here, no flames exsist we are just discussing shtuffs.


Anything concerning the movie and g1 together will be a flame war. I mean I love the movie designs but I hate the hell outa g1 and i do agree with your stuck in the past thing about transformers i mean g1 is over and if you want it to come back buy all the dvds and watch them till you die leting no new ideas come in. Another thing is hey you say you hate g1 (like me) and you get flamed. You say you hate bay nothing happens.I dont like these repaints ill stick with the movie.


Oh but i dont hate G1, i love it! I mean how couldnt ya? I also love the movie though, but i also like to move along with new ideas and technology and designs and not just keep demanding the same stuff be recycled over and over again.


Yay i like the way you are. I probably would like g1 but i cant get iterested in it.
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Postby decepticonjon » Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:49 pm

Sonray wrote:
NightFlare wrote:
Sonray wrote:Its not a flame war i just asked a question, i wanna see his work.

And the re-paint thing is a difference in opinion. Flaming is when people start swearing at each otehr and calling people names. Trust me, this isnt even an ice war, its freezing here, no flames exsist we are just discussing shtuffs.


Anything concerning the movie and g1 together will be a flame war. I mean I love the movie designs but I hate the hell outa g1 and i do agree with your stuck in the past thing about transformers i mean g1 is over and if you want it to come back buy all the dvds and watch them till you die leting no new ideas come in. Another thing is hey you say you hate g1 (like me) and you get flamed. You say you hate bay nothing happens.I dont like these repaints ill stick with the movie.


Oh but i dont hate G1, i love it! I mean how couldnt ya? I also love the movie though, but i also like to move along with new ideas and technology and designs and not just keep demanding the same stuff be recycled over and over again.

well, if we are to move on with technology, why do they have mouths.. or even for that matter.. talk, especially to each other.. shouldn't alot be done wirelessly?
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Postby Sonray » Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:52 pm

decepticonjon wrote:
Sonray wrote:
NightFlare wrote:
Sonray wrote:Its not a flame war i just asked a question, i wanna see his work.

And the re-paint thing is a difference in opinion. Flaming is when people start swearing at each otehr and calling people names. Trust me, this isnt even an ice war, its freezing here, no flames exsist we are just discussing shtuffs.


Anything concerning the movie and g1 together will be a flame war. I mean I love the movie designs but I hate the hell outa g1 and i do agree with your stuck in the past thing about transformers i mean g1 is over and if you want it to come back buy all the dvds and watch them till you die leting no new ideas come in. Another thing is hey you say you hate g1 (like me) and you get flamed. You say you hate bay nothing happens.I dont like these repaints ill stick with the movie.


Oh but i dont hate G1, i love it! I mean how couldnt ya? I also love the movie though, but i also like to move along with new ideas and technology and designs and not just keep demanding the same stuff be recycled over and over again.

well, if we are to move on with technology, why do they have mouths.. or even for that matter.. talk, especially to each other.. shouldn't alot be done wirelessly?


Yep, but we wouldnt have a very interesting freaking movie then though now would we..... :roll:
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Postby Duo Prime » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:32 pm

Jazz kicks real ass finally, Starscream looks a hell of alot better, but the design still looks like crap. Maybe they will fix his premature missile launching problem with the repaint.

As for looking real in the movie, really it's only an opinion that those look more real as opposed to a more G1 look. I would imagine that they would need more of an armoured body to take the damage of a million year war with any chance of survival, so the see-through skeletal look doesnt look realistic to me. These things weren't built on earth, so why would they look more like the earth built Johnny-5? Besides, the newest in technolog as far as robots are concerned, have outer shells making them look more like the G1 designs(the robot built by Honda). And besides that, how the F**K are futureistic robots from another planet ever going to look out-dated? Are there real ones walking around that i havent noticed? Untill earth catches up to cybertron tech, those will never be out dated(the animation maybe, but hell, that still beats the 3-d cgi toys from the most recent 2 TF series, the others seemed to be a little on the plain side as far as detail goes) G1 rules Supreme!!!! And besides that, there wouldn't be any TF's had G1 not succeeded the way it did. So hating G1 is pointless, you may as well hate your grandfather, and wish he would just go away!
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Postby Samsonator » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:19 pm

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Well, gotta say I dig the Jazz, suspending realism for fun paint schemes never did bother me. I'm a big fan of modern vehicles, I'm a fan of modernized robot designs, but as an oldschool fan as well, when they do something like this it's a nice blend of old and new. If I can, I'll get this figure, if I can't I'll get the regular one, if I feel like it I'll get both, because despite the horrible arms, I love the Solstice, and Jazz has always been a favourite.
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Postby jgilkinson » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:33 pm

Man thanks for letting me save my money... i love these repaints so much more than the movie paint scheme. Now if we can get a red ironhide
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