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Fearing wrote:The only way this could possibly make sense is if they are rebooting an entire multiverse's continuity and these are different universes. I haven't seen Prime, but from what I've read, clearly it doesn't fit with WFC and Exodus, and while WFC and Exodus could both plausibly be prequels to the original G1 cartoon (the book much moreso than the game as the inclusion of certain characters in the game, even if you try to make a side story in your head to explain why they'd be there, just doesn't make sense, while the book goes out of its way to try to include all the events from Cybertron's past that were a part of the TV show and doesn't have any major contradictions that are any more an issue that was the show already had within itself), neither of them really fit together with each other, so you could only have one or the other be prequels to the show (I'd pick Exodus, the game was super fun, but just a few small tweaks would have fixed a lot storywise). They have to be talking about a whole new multiverse here, or they just haven't actually read their own stories.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Dead Metal wrote:And the only real continuity glitch between WFC and Prime which can't be explained away is the backstory to Megatron and Prime.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Dead Metal wrote:And the only real continuity glitch between WFC and Prime which can't be explained away is the backstory to Megatron and Prime.
Also Dark Energon. Starscream and Megatron act like they've never seen it before, it's effects are entirely different, and they make a big deal about Megatron launching a chunk of it at Cybertron despite the fact that he already seeded the planet--right down to the core--with Dark Energon in WfC. There's also the matter that none of the Autobots and Decepticons start rising up as Zombies in WfC even though that would be totally awesome.
Come on, High Moon, make your next DLC a Robot Zombie Apocalypse campaign. People will start playing again if you do, and you'll fix a continuity error in the process.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Lord Onixprime wrote:The problem isn't WFC.
A video game take 2 years of development at least, which means that High Moon probably started developing WFC and its story back in 2008 at the latest. Animated was still thriving and the Hub was probably not even conceptualized yet, let alone Prime and its continuity.
The only problem here is Hasbro making a connection here where there isn't one. I'm sure High Moon had no intentions of their project being anything more than a homage to G1, and then only following it up with another game if it did well. Hasbro decided to make it the start of their 'master continuity' of which Prime is supposed to be (High Moon has never stated their game was the start of a grander continuity, only Hasbro)and neglected to keep with the source material.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Dead Metal wrote:That can be explained as the Prime Dark energon being a different kind of Dark Energon, with different effects, Arcee even said that it looked like experiments the Decepticons did during the War. And they did know what Dark Energon was, just that they where unfamiliar with the Blood of Unicron Dark Energon.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Dead Metal wrote:That can be explained as the Prime Dark energon being a different kind of Dark Energon, with different effects, Arcee even said that it looked like experiments the Decepticons did during the War. And they did know what Dark Energon was, just that they where unfamiliar with the Blood of Unicron Dark Energon.
But they never said there was a difference, and they never made any mention to there being any other kind of Dark Energon. Starscream didn't say "How is that different from what we were using?" He actually says Dark Energon is "so rare as to be non-existent." Despite the fact that HE was Megatron's main supplier!
And there were no "experiments" during the war, there was just Megatron spreading as much Dark Energon as he possibly could. And even if it there were, maybe something Arcee saw in the Kaon prison, she should have been able to identify it as Dark Energon.
Face it, you can't tie Prime in with WfC, just like you can't tie Animated in with G1. There's too many continuity errors with the characters directly contradicting the only explanations.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Ratchet said that, not Screamer. Besides, the stuff was scarce to begin with in the games and book. It wasn't until it had been mass-produced that there was a lot of the stuff. And by the pointof the Prime cartoon, maybe Cybertron had been disinfected enough that Dark Energon did exist in abundance anymore.Shadowman wrote:But they never said there was a difference, and they never made any mention to there being any other kind of Dark Energon. Starscream didn't say "How is that different from what we were using?" He actually says Dark Energon is "so rare as to be non-existent." Despite the fact that HE was Megatron's main supplier!
Shadowman wrote:And there were no "experiments" during the war, there was just Megatron spreading as much Dark Energon as he possibly could. And even if it there were, maybe something Arcee saw in the Kaon prison, she should have been able to identify it as Dark Energon.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Except that the type of Dark Energon in the games and book was called the "Sparks of Unicron", whereas the new source Megs found in the cartoon was called the "Blood of Unicron".Shadowman wrote:So I looked it up; Dark Energon was emanated by Unicron when he attacked Cybertron, but was defeated and driven off by the Original 13. What samples could be found were left to the Seeker Caste, and thus Starscream, to study aboard Trypticon station. I don't know if Starscream knew about it's origins...but Soundwave did, and he doesn't typically hide things from Megatron.
So the creator of Dark Energon is, in fact, Unicron. Thus, the "Blood of Unicron" is the only possible version there is. Even if the mass produced Dark Energon is different from the original samples, where would he have gotten it? I seriously doubt he'd be able to steal a sample from Unicron and get away with it.
Exactly! The new aligned continuity consists of WFC, Exodus, and Prime in a forced manner. They are all together, but in an imperfect way. Imperfection is what we're stuck with.Shadowman wrote:Prime and WfC may be the same continuity, but they are mashed together EXTREMELY poorly.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
AutobotTrainer wrote:Oh, and scroll down to "Western Animation" here this FUBAR is already mentioned.
OptiMagnus10 wrote:Continuity errors are definitely nothing new in Transformers, or in many franchises for that matter.
Let's accept that WFC and Prime are the same somehow and move on.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Of course not. I'm gonna keep nitpicking about every possible continuity error I can spot. But I won't ever let that stop my enjoyment of the series.Shadowman wrote:EDIT: Well, okay, I can accept that they're poorly tied together by Hasbro. But that doesn't mean I'll stop complaining about it.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Of course not. I'm gonna keep nitpicking about every possible continuity error I can spot. But I won't ever let that stop my enjoyment of the series.Shadowman wrote:EDIT: Well, okay, I can accept that they're poorly tied together by Hasbro. But that doesn't mean I'll stop complaining about it.![]()
Sabrblade wrote:As for this "wrong answer" given by Hasbro UK that several keep asking about, isn't kinda obvious? The question that was asked is if the three mediums were tied together. This email is rectifying this supposed "wrong answer" by saying that, yes, they are together. This would indiciate that the wrong answer given is that they somehow are not together. It's as simple as that, apparently.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
NuclearConvoy wrote:This makes about as much sense as shoehorning Galaxy Force into being a follow-up to Armada/Energon. Cybertron (the show that resulted from that bad idea) was just broken. The Humans didn't even remember there were robots on earth before, yeah cuz that makes sense after they had giant cities built with them. YEAH.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Like I said, it's like claiming Animated and G1 are connected (Which some people WERE, due to the use of G1 footage in the pilot) when it clearly isn't.
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