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Gauntlet101010 wrote:I say you're lying to us and yourself about being pro-creative because you're gleeful even when 3rd party KOs are made. It's even more telling that you don't care that the lead designer from the Diaclone days still works at Takara; you don't care about supporting him by buying legit.
You're anti-corperate, but you are not pro-creator. You don't go out of your way to help creators. You love seeing them ripped off when it saves you money.
Rated X wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:I say you're lying to us and yourself about being pro-creative because you're gleeful even when 3rd party KOs are made. It's even more telling that you don't care that the lead designer from the Diaclone days still works at Takara; you don't care about supporting him by buying legit.
You're anti-corperate, but you are not pro-creator. You don't go out of your way to help creators. You love seeing them ripped off when it saves you money.
I got nothing to lie about. Nobody's paying me to post here. And it took more than one head designer to create the Transformers brand. Are they all still getting paid like him ? I doubt it. I buy KO and that has nothing to do with being pro or anti creator because. Even If I only bought legit, how would that be helping someone who got canned in the 80's. This anti-KO code of honor everybody here follows doesn't make you guys any more righteous or me any less righteous. People love to quote the law on this site. But if I raided their houses, I bet I would surely find a KO of something brand name, whether its a car part, home product, or food. You know it and I know it. That's what makes this anti-KO group so sad in my opinion. They're calling me a liar, but if you apply their logic to everything they own, many of them are living a lie when they scream "IP theft".
This is why people are getting so worked up - you're making assumptions unsubstantiated by evidence:Rated X wrote:And it took more than one head designer to create the Transformers brand. Are they all still getting paid like him ? I doubt it. I buy KO and that has nothing to do with being pro or anti creator because. Even If I only bought legit, how would that be helping someone who got canned in the 80's.
It's not about being righteous or not, it's about being consistent.Rated X wrote:This anti-KO code of honor everybody here follows doesn't make you guys any more righteous or me any less righteous. People love to quote the law on this site.
I own a KODX Classics Prime. I bought it because I wanted a companion to my Tokyo Toy Show Nemesis Prime, and didn't want to shell out money for something that was more expensive and arguably less solid than the KODX version.Rated X wrote:But if I raided their houses, I bet I would surely find a KO of something brand name, whether its a car part, home product, or food. You know it and I know it. That's what makes this anti-KO group so sad in my opinion. They're calling me a liar, but if you apply their logic to everything they own, many of them are living a lie when they scream "IP theft".
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
njb902 wrote:X is right about everyone being hypocritical
njb902 wrote:I don't believe in murder, but I've killed.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
megatronus wrote:njb902 wrote:X is right about everyone being hypocritical
njb902 wrote:I don't believe in murder, but I've killed.
njb902 wrote:megatronus wrote:njb902 wrote:X is right about everyone being hypocritical
njb902 wrote:I don't believe in murder, but I've killed.
I served in Afghanistan.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
megatronus wrote:njb902 wrote:megatronus wrote:njb902 wrote:X is right about everyone being hypocritical
njb902 wrote:I don't believe in murder, but I've killed.
I served in Afghanistan.
Thank you for serving our country. You're a brave person
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Yeah, everyone's a hypocrite sometimes. But that doesn't make X's arguments logical.
njb902 wrote:megatronus wrote:njb902 wrote:megatronus wrote:njb902 wrote:X is right about everyone being hypocritical
njb902 wrote:I don't believe in murder, but I've killed.
I served in Afghanistan.
Thank you for serving our country. You're a brave person
I don't know about that, I just served.
Do you see what I mean though? We all do things that we might not believe in or that aren't right under certain situations, either consciously or unconsciously. In that way we are all hypocritical, it may not be how X meant it, but he is still right.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Autobot Genocide wrote:Where is this thread going to end
Kosh wrote:In fire.
Yotsuyasan wrote:Autobot Genocide wrote:Where is this thread going to endKosh wrote:In fire.
njb902 wrote:X is right about everyone being hypocritical, though I believe it's hard not to be it's human nature. I try to live the best I can and I try to do the right things, but I know I fail. I don't believe in murder, but I've killed when I was in the Army. I don't believe in God, but I find myself praying. I don't believe in the "institution" of marriage(I'm not talking about fidelity, I believe in that strongly) , but I'm married anyways. Ect. Ect. Ect. We all have our little ways. You and I might disagree on what we consider right and wrong X, but in the end it doesn't mean anything if you don't believe it yourself.
You talk and talk and talk about the creators and what they are owed by Hasbro/Takara. Let's set that aside for a moment and talk about the 3rd party creators. What about them? What of the KO's of their products? They don't work for monolithic corporations, so what's your justification there?
Burn wrote:What I find funny though is if you go back and re-read this thread, no one really brings up IP, no one has made a massive issue out of anti-ko's ... no one that is except Rated X.
Did I state earlier in the thread that I'm anti-ko? Yes. I explained my collecting preferences. That was it.
I then had to defend MY collecting habits to someone who clearly does NOT respect what I do with MY OWN collection.
Honestly, I'm tired of being insulted. I collect Transformers. I have bought KO's but only one of them was passed off as being a legitimate Transformer, in other words, I got screwed over. The others I bought were garishly coloured or oversized and were bought out of curiosity and then given to my nephew if they didn't break upon transformation.
But if you go through every picture in this album you will not see a single KO Transformer. Every single one of them is "legit".
That's my collecting preference. I'm not saying it's right, but I will not sit here and have some loud mouth brand me a hypocrite or a corporate suck-up, or some other wildly stupid name just because MY collecting preferences don't line up with his.
Burn wrote:What I find funny though is if you go back and re-read this thread, no one really brings up IP, no one has made a massive issue out of anti-ko's ... no one that is except Rated X.
Did I state earlier in the thread that I'm anti-ko? Yes. I explained my collecting preferences. That was it.
I then had to defend MY collecting habits to someone who clearly does NOT respect what I do with MY OWN collection.
Honestly, I'm tired of being insulted. I collect Transformers. I have bought KO's but only one of them was passed off as being a legitimate Transformer, in other words, I got screwed over. The others I bought were garishly coloured or oversized and were bought out of curiosity and then given to my nephew if they didn't break upon transformation.
But if you go through every picture in this album you will not see a single KO Transformer. Every single one of them is "legit".
That's my collecting preference. I'm not saying it's right, but I will not sit here and have some loud mouth brand me a hypocrite or a corporate suck-up, or some other wildly stupid name just because MY collecting preferences don't line up with his.
Rated X wrote:Hey theres nothing wrong with owning all "legit" Transformers.
You got some value there. But for some people it's not about value, it's all about fun. And when it comes to high quality KO's of rare or exaggerated price TF's youre missing out on all the fun.![]()
How do you feel about the KO Dino cassettes ?
Youre really missing out...
xyl360 wrote:I participated in this discussion earlier too, but all this stuff is way off topic and has really just turned into a debate between one person and several others. I don't think it's productive at all and certainly isn't providing any useful info that I can see about "KO MP-16 Frenzy and Buzzsaw".
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