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can't really say, I took it out once when that whole thing about the KO's of the FP city commander came up, and did some pics of it with Henkei Prime.. nice too..

it's awesome!!

but it is storage now.. it's safe.. wish I could pose it and set up a display of some kind, some day..

Right on, that's cool. Why's he in storage? No room? Or you're just keeping him safe..?


What I'm probably going to do is buy the Nemmy Prime, since he is going pretty cheap. And get his set of armor. It's a Nemesis Magnus, but it's just as cool.

(I wonder if anyone's had the balls to do a custom repaint of this Commander set yet. Hmmm.)

Rastamus Prime wrote:

can't really say, I took it out once when that whole thing about the KO's of the FP city commander came up, and did some pics of it with Henkei Prime.. nice too..

it's awesome!!

but it is storage now.. it's safe.. wish I could pose it and set up a display of some kind, some day..

Right on, that's cool. Why's he in storage? No room? Or you're just keeping him safe..?


What I'm probably going to do is buy the Nemmy Prime, since he is going pretty cheap. And get his set of armor. It's a Nemesis Magnus, but it's just as cool.

(I wonder if anyone's had the balls to do a custom repaint of this Commander set yet. Hmmm.)

I have no room...

I choose to think of the armor set as more of an armor that is made specifically for the Optimus Prime type bots.. and that Nemesis being a clone of Prime gets one as well.. and since Magnus is prime's brother, he also has one..

that's just me..

Skywarp-2 Wrote:
I have no room...

I choose to think of the armor set as more of an armor that is made specifically for the Optimus Prime type bots.. and that Nemesis being a clone of Prime gets one as well.. and since Magnus is prime's brother, he also has one..

that's just me..

I hate to ask so many questions. But how big is your collection?

And on a shelf how much room does the complete armor set take up?

The second question I ask so I can get a personal refference to go by if I do buy Shadow Commander.

Rastamus Prime wrote:

Skywarp-2 Wrote:
I have no room...

I choose to think of the armor set as more of an armor that is made specifically for the Optimus Prime type bots.. and that Nemesis being a clone of Prime gets one as well.. and since Magnus is prime's brother, he also has one..

that's just me..

I hate to ask so many questions. But how big is your collection?

And on a shelf how much room does the complete armor set take up?

The second question I ask so I can get a personal refference to go by if I do buy Shadow Commander.

it's not much room to take up for that armor..

but here is a link to the thread with my collection..
viewtopic.php?f=206&t=55559

This is what I got from them..and I gotta say, it is a futile effort to even argue with their stance on the issue..
I for one, am glad that the 3rd party companies like Fan's Project, are at least listening..In an age of Trial Lawyers and "slip and fall" attorneys gone wild, it is nice to have an outlet whose responsive to fan ideas..

Dear: Adam,

Thank you for contacting Hasbro, Inc. regarding the above-referenced new product ideas. We appreciate your interest in our company.

As you can imagine, each year we receive many contacts and inquiries such as yours, and while we appreciate hearing from our friends and consumers, we must advise you that we do not accept unsolicited submissions for review.

For many years it has been and remains our company’s policy to decline offers to consider unsolicited external ideas or suggestions. We depend on employees and other organizations with whom we deal on a regular basis for such ideas. Also, the toy and game industry has had the unfortunate experience of lawsuits being filed by individuals who allege misappropriation for their ideas as a result of a company’s consideration of even the most general concept, and we simply cannot assume such risks. Therefore, we do not encourage the submission of ideas by individuals who are not directly associated with our company or its agents.

In accordance with our policy, we are enclosing the material you sent to us, which we have neither copied nor reviewed.

Sincerely,

HASBRO LEGAL DEPARTMENT

Bottom line, you need to work for Hasbro to submit an idea and effect designs and changes us Transformers fans want to see...My inside connection isn't going to give me tidbits anymore.. he's much too busy keeping his job in this recession, and I don't blame him..

Well ... did you expect otherwise? If they actually did accept ideas from outside the company, don't you think it'd be troublesome for them?

I dunno how much 3rd party companies "listen" to the fans ... I'm still glad we have them making oddball products, though.

And all I ask was for them to have better quality control (parts and paints wise).

skywarp-2 wrote:Bottom line, you need to work for Hasbro to submit an idea and effect designs and changes us Transformers fans want to see...My inside connection isn't going to give me tidbits anymore.. he's much too busy keeping his job in this recession, and I don't blame him..

That's not entirely true.

The animated figures that we'll be getting around Christmas are due to fan requests. Universe returning was due to fan demand, as was Onslaught repainted as Hardhead.

A single person's voice doesn't mean jack all to any industry, Hasbro, Marvel, Coca-Cola, Ford yadda-yadda. The only way to get our voices heard is to speak as a chorus.

Submitting your very own ideas to major companies as Hasbro is a bad idea to begin with. For one, no matter what you do, once submitted, by law it immediately becomes the company's legal property, especially if you do not set a price on it! The avoidance of lawsuits is to merely avoid wasting valuable resources and time, as they can be pretty damaging.

In other words, if you have a great idea, let the companies come to you instead of the other way around. That's how all those products on those Home Shopping channels came to be The fans had ideas and requests, Hasbro came and listened.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Well ... did you expect otherwise?

No not really, but it was interesting to see how they would respond..

Gauntlet101010 wrote: If they actually did accept ideas from outside the company, don't you think it'd be troublesome for them?

yeah it could be.. but who is to say that any suggestion they get is not taken into account?? I sent them a request to include some Go-Bots in the classics line up a long time ago back in 2007, and one of those was a digibash turning the classics Mirage into crasher.. now I'm not saying they used my idea.. but the later release of fracture at least tells me they were thinking in that direction..a person who submits an idea and gets this emailed response could still try to sue..

problem being that frivolous lawsuit have gotten so out of hand these days that no one can so much as pass gas without considering that they might get sued for farting.

I dunno how much 3rd party companies "listen" to the fans ... I'm still glad we have them making oddball products, though.[/quote]

me too..

shonenfan4 wrote:And all I ask was for them to have better quality control (parts and paints wise).

yeah even that suggestion gets an attorney answer like the one I got above...

My thinking is that Hasbro's response was one part normal protocol for addressing suggestions and one part "we're just saying this because we have to, legal blah blah blah". It's apparent that Hasbro does listen to fan suggestions, it's just that I don't think they can come out and say "Great idea! We'll use it in the next line." due to the legal quagmire that surrounds this kind of situation.

Mkall wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:Bottom line, you need to work for Hasbro to submit an idea and effect designs and changes us Transformers fans want to see...My inside connection isn't going to give me tidbits anymore.. he's much too busy keeping his job in this recession, and I don't blame him..

That's not entirely true.

The animated figures that we'll be getting around Christmas are due to fan requests. Universe returning was due to fan demand, as was Onslaught repainted as Hardhead.

A single person's voice doesn't mean jack all to any industry, Hasbro, Marvel, Coca-Cola, Ford yadda-yadda. The only way to get our voices heard is to speak as a chorus.

yeah you make good sense there..

but was there a chorus requesting a crasher, which we got in the form of Fracture??

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Submitting your very own ideas to major companies as Hasbro is a bad idea to begin with. For one, no matter what you do, once submitted, by law it immediately becomes the company's legal property, especially if you do not set a price on it! The avoidance of lawsuits is to merely avoid wasting valuable resources and time, as they can be pretty damaging.

In other words, if you have a great idea, let the companies come to you instead of the other way around. That's how all those products on those Home Shopping channels came to be The fans had ideas and requests, Hasbro came and listened.

yeah, if they wanted some ideas that they may not have thought the fandom is the place to go.. here on seibertron.com

they should offer a design a transformer contest.. and have 5 taken as the choices.. 5 fan-made transformers spread out over the full year..

Convotron wrote:My thinking is that Hasbro's response was one part normal protocol for addressing suggestions and one part "we're just saying this because we have to, legal blah blah blah". It's apparent that Hasbro does listen to fan suggestions, it's just that I don't think they can come out and say "Great idea! We'll use it in the next line." due to the legal quagmire that surrounds this kind of situation.

Attorney's just complicate things... more then they do to clarify things.. I am all for getting justice, but with all the frivolous lawsuits these day it's scary to breathe on someone else without worrying if you'll get sued if they end up having a sniffle..

When I was just a little kid and started getting G1 TFs, I wrote a hand-written letter to Hasbro suggesting that they should make dinosaurs that transform into robots. When the dinobots appeared, I was convinced that they had gotten the idea from my letter. Isn't that cute?

Shocked.

Captial 'Shh'

skywarp-2 wrote:yeah you make good sense there..

but was there a chorus requesting a crasher, which we got in the form of Fracture??

Probably not, but not everything Hasbro does is due to fan requests.

yeah, if they wanted some ideas that they may not have thought the fandom is the place to go.. here on seibertron.com

I'm willing to bet that Hasbro reps lurk here every day. Maybe a few post here under guises of fans, I don't know. But they know we exist and that we can, every now and then, come up with some damn good ideas.

GuyIncognito wrote:When I was just a little kid and started getting G1 TFs, I wrote a hand-written letter to Hasbro suggesting that they should make dinosaurs that transform into robots. When the dinobots appeared, I was convinced that they had gotten the idea from my letter. Isn't that cute?

Yeah I thought the same thing when they did fracture, but I knew it wasn't me.. Or my long drawn out plea for more Gobots worked into the mythos..

Mkall wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:yeah you make good sense there..

but was there a chorus requesting a crasher, which we got in the form of Fracture??

Probably not, but not everything Hasbro does is due to fan requests.

I know, I know.. I still think they should do a design a transformer toy contest.. and any winners get that toy created officially, but relinquish all rights and creative rights by entering the contest.. atleast we'd get some official fan stuff..

Mkall wrote:

yeah, if they wanted some ideas that they may not have thought the fandom is the place to go.. here on seibertron.com

I'm willing to bet that Hasbro reps lurk here every day. Maybe a few post here under guises of fans, I don't know. But they know we exist and that we can, every now and then, come up with some damn good ideas.

yes, yes we do!

skywarp-2 wrote:yes, yes we do!

Quite a few people suspected you of that for a while...

Not naming names, but there was chatter.

Counterpunch wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:yes, yes we do!

Quite a few people suspected you of that for a while...

Not naming names, but there was chatter.

I did. I called him on it too. When he came back that was why I remembered him ! It was his repaint idea and feedback threads and the mountain of images he threw into every post. We're cool now though. Hell, I'm ordering an extra TFCC Punch and FansProject CC Rifle & Missles for him!

Counterpunch wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:yes, yes we do!

Quite a few people suspected you of that for a while...

Not naming names, but there was chatter.

that is absurd...

I wish!

anyhow, I think they mistook my trying to come up with ideas, for fishing for Hasbro.. which was not the case, however, every time I got a great consensus and thread I did email it to their customer suggestion email account.. and the link to that thread. Who knows if a Hasbro undercover employee came by and checked it out, and got some ideas off of it..


ON A SIDE NOTE:
Oh man, I just watched CP/P today on youtube for the first time, it was an awesome sight!! I hope I can get my hands on that figure coming from Botcon!!! Zodconvoy said he'd help me out.. which is great! I love that character.. great choice for a screen persona...he was so funny always swtiching his mode from back to front and vice versa... I hope Funpub/transformers fan club does him a proper box with that art we saw on their Botcon site..his decepticon version looks like he's wearing a mask, like in disguise..the other autobot version looks like his open face..like his true face..pretty cool character, i never knew about..

I stopped watching after the 1st 2 episodes of season 3, when Galvatron's voice turned from strong leader to whinny Bitch!

also, I had no idea that Ultra Magnus Was killed by Sixshot!!?? that was horrendous!!

GALVATRON'S DEATH WAS A COPOUT..Skyfire survived worse cold conditions and was resurrected..

didn't Galvatron come back in the Beast Wars series??

zodconvoy wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:yes, yes we do!

Quite a few people suspected you of that for a while...

Not naming names, but there was chatter.

I did. I called him on it too. When he came back that was why I remembered him ! It was his repaint idea and feedback threads and the mountain of images he threw into every post. We're cool now though. Hell, I'm ordering an extra TFCC Punch and FansProject CC Rifle & Missles for him!

yeah.... and I am ever so humbled and appreciative that you are helping me like that...

you guys rock!!

shonenfan4 wrote:And all I ask was for them to have better quality control (parts and paints wise).

i 2nd this

Mkall wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:yeah you make good sense there..

but was there a chorus requesting a crasher, which we got in the form of Fracture??

Probably not, but not everything Hasbro does is due to fan requests.

yeah, if they wanted some ideas that they may not have thought the fandom is the place to go.. here on seibertron.com

I'm willing to bet that Hasbro reps lurk here every day. Maybe a few post here under guises of fans, I don't know. But they know we exist and that we can, every now and then, come up with some damn good ideas.

I can assure everyone that there's quite a few official folks that visit this site on a regular basis from Hasbro, IDW, the various DVD companies, Paramount, etc.

One of the greatest compliments I ever received about Seibertron.com was an unintentional compliment from Hasbro CEO Brian Goldner's 10 year old daughter at BotCon 2007. Brian introduced me to his daughter, told her I was the owner of Seibertron.com, and then she stated "That's the website you check out every night before you go to bed!" Brian blushed/grinned, whatever. It was a true highlight in my Seibertron.com life. One of the greatest compliments I could receive without it actually being a compliment.

skywarp-2 wrote:GALVATRON'S DEATH WAS A COPOUT..Skyfire survived worse cold conditions and was resurrected..

didn't Galvatron come back in the Beast Wars series??

Different Galvatron. Not the same character.

Seibertron wrote:I can assure everyone that there's quite a few official folks that visit this site on a regular basis from Hasbro, IDW, the various DVD companies, Paramount, etc.

One of the greatest compliments I ever received about Seibertron.com was an unintentional compliment from Hasbro CEO Brian Goldner's 10 year old daughter at BotCon 2007. Brian introduced me to his daughter, told her I was the owner of Seibertron.com, and then she stated "That's the website you check out every night before you go to bed!" Brian blushed/grinned, whatever. It was a true highlight in my Seibertron.com life. One of the greatest compliments I could receive without it actually being a compliment.

That's awesome.

It also begs the question as to when they'll break down and send me a job offer for their PR department...

Seibertron wrote:I can assure everyone that there's quite a few official folks that visit this site on a regular basis from Hasbro, IDW, the various DVD companies, Paramount, etc.

One of the greatest compliments I ever received about Seibertron.com was an unintentional compliment from Hasbro CEO Brian Goldner's 10 year old daughter at BotCon 2007. Brian introduced me to his daughter, told her I was the owner of Seibertron.com, and then she stated "That's the website you check out every night before you go to bed!" Brian blushed/grinned, whatever. It was a true highlight in my Seibertron.com life. One of the greatest compliments I could receive without it actually being a compliment.

This is so cool! The honest truth is that there are many fan communities with forums and sites out there but I haven't come across any that match seibertron.com for its site layout and content(the photo galleries are second to none) and more importantly, the community is just awesome.

skywarp-2 wrote:Bottom line, you need to work for Hasbro to submit an idea and effect designs and changes us Transformers fans want to see...My inside connection isn't going to give me tidbits anymore.. he's much too busy keeping his job in this recession, and I don't blame him..

Can't blame them for that. Aspiring designers/scriptwriters are always suing large corporations for plagiarism. The legal arena being what it is, Hasbro would rather not take any risks if they would help it.

An old Taoist saying comes to mind: "The more rules and laws that are created, the more you can do wrong in this world."

shonenfan4 wrote:And all I ask was for them to have better quality control (parts and paints wise).

Amen to that. My preview Bumblebee is a recent victim of "thin-paint-syndrome".

Convotron wrote:

Seibertron wrote:I can assure everyone that there's quite a few official folks that visit this site on a regular basis from Hasbro, IDW, the various DVD companies, Paramount, etc.

One of the greatest compliments I ever received about Seibertron.com was an unintentional compliment from Hasbro CEO Brian Goldner's 10 year old daughter at BotCon 2007. Brian introduced me to his daughter, told her I was the owner of Seibertron.com, and then she stated "That's the website you check out every night before you go to bed!" Brian blushed/grinned, whatever. It was a true highlight in my Seibertron.com life. One of the greatest compliments I could receive without it actually being a compliment.

This is so cool! The honest truth is that there are many fan communities with forums and sites out there but I haven't come across any that match seibertron.com for its site layout and content(the photo galleries are second to none) and more importantly, the community is just awesome.

I've been lurking in quite a few TF sites, but seibertron was the only one I bothered to register with. The news is always up to date, and the members here are quick to respond to a fellow TF fan in need. Gotta love this site.