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Postby E.H.U.D. » Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:54 pm

I just looked at another thread and remembered: Scorponok! we can't forget him! Ideas? I can't think of any thing right now (I'm busy removing the blisters from all my open Star Wars packages :grin: )
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Postby Ironhide7 » Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:02 pm

Check out my TF2 movie plot.
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Postby Nightracer GT » Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:59 am

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E.H.U.D. wrote:I just looked at another thread and remembered: Scorponok! we can't forget him! Ideas? I can't think of any thing right now (I'm busy removing the blisters from all my open Star Wars packages :grin: )


I honestly would be content just leaving him out, but I can see how that wouldn't make much sense. I can't think of anything right now. Maybe something in 3?


Ironhide7 wrote:Check out my TF2 movie plot.
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But what do you think of mine? And can we work together on the story instead of competing? It kind of destroys what I had in mind for this whole thing...
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Postby Ironhide7 » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:14 pm

First I’d like to thank Dark Zarak for giving me the idea.

Here are the New Characters

Autobots:
Silverbolt- F-18 Hornet
Sunstreaker- Lamborghini
Cliffjumper- Camaro
Brawn- jeep
Sideswipe- Corvette
Powerglide- A-10
Prowl- Nissan GTR police car
Grapple- crane
Hoist- tow truck
Hound- gunless humvee
Wheeljack- Pontiac firebird
Grimlock- T-Rex

Decepticons:
(Loyal to Galvatron)

Galvatron- Cybertronian tank
Cyclonus- Apache
Dead End- M113
Scourge- SU-47
Onslaught- MRLS
Soundwave- SR71- Blackbird
Dirge/Ramjet- F-35C
Barricade

Decepticons:
(separatist)
Starscream
Shockwave- Patriot Battery
Blitzwing- F-16/ Leopard tank
Swindle- Bradley Assault Vehicle
Thundercracker/Skywarp- F-22
Triggerhappy- F-4 Phantom
Thrust- F-35C

Without further ado here is my TF2 Movie plot.



It starts with Optimus watching over Ratchet repair the wounded Jazz. He walks out of the warehouse and we see that they are in Chicago. He transforms and leaves.

Bumblebee who is stationed in Los Angeles with Sam and Mikela. Bumblebee who is still learning how to talk gets a message from secretary Keller saying that they spotted 11 comets similar to those of the protoforms heading towards Earth. He radios to Prime who is in Washington D.C.

Prime tells Ironhide in New York to head to Denver, the landing location of the comets. Optimus leave Washington D.C. along with Keller and the president to head to Hoover Dam. Arriving at Hoover Dam the president has al Sector 7 equipment shipped to the Pentagon. Optimus grabbing the fragment from the Allspark takes it and heads back towards Chicago.

Prime gives Ratchet the fragment and leaves to head to Denver. Just as Ratchet is about to revive Jazz Barricade comes and attacks Ratchet and defeats him. Barricade takes the fragment leaving Ratchet to be wounded. Barricade flees to the Decepticon HQ in the Rocky’s.

Epps and Lennox who now live in Washington D.C. leave to go to Florida to visit an old friend.

In Denver Ironhide, Optimus, and Bumblebee meet up and evacuate the city for the landing. Inside are Autobots. They get them new forms and head to Chicago.

Back in Chicago they find Ratchet severely wounded and the fragment gone. Wheeljack repairs Ratchet. The Autobots then tell Secretary Keller to set a defensive perimeter around where they dumped the bodies.

In the Rocky’s we see that Starscream went to the edge of the solar system and grabbed the Nemesis along with some Decepticons.

Maggie and Glen who work for the NSA are taken to the White House and are told to track more of Decepticon trouble.

Optimus sends Bumblebee to spy on the Decepticons. Sam and Mikela sneak on to Bumblebee disobeying Optimus’s orders. Bumblebee is spotted by Dead End. They engage in a duel and Bumblebee is defeated and captured.

Barricade return’s with the fragment but gives it to Soundwave. Starscream and his men then attack the other Decepticons and flee to the Himalayas.

Epps and Lennox in Florida head to a cemetery where we find Fig’s gravestone. After that they head to Fig’s mom’s house for some fried gator and crickets. They then return to Washington.

Back in Chicago the Autobots roll out to San Diego where the get on a naval carrier taking them to Laurenith Abyss. Prime is worried about Bumblebee. So he sends Silverbolt to the Rocky’s. But they are to late. The defense perimeter was destroyed. Prime sends Hound to the Ocean floor and we see that Megatron is gone.

Starscream has Shockwave builds a device that will contain Megatron. But there are meant by the Autobots and the other Decepticons. The machine is destroyed and Swindle and Barricade are killed.

Maggie and Glen are stationed at am intelligence station in Hawaii. They discover a Cybertronian source under a volcano. Prime sends Powerglide and Wheeljack.

Prime organizes a strike force to rescue Bumblebee. They are joined by Simmons, Lennox, Epps, and their team. Bumblebee is rescued and Megatron is revived as Galvatron. Galvatron and Optimus duel. Optimus is severely wounded and flees.

In Hawaii Wheeljack rebuilds the Cybertonian into Grimlock.

Prime and Galvatron mobilize their forces to New York City. Optimus sends Sam to the Empire State Building to call for reinforcements. Outnumbered the Decepticons are almost beaten until Starscream joins Galvatron. Powerglide and Wheeljack rejoin the Autobots w/ Grimlock. Grimlock who helps turn the tide of battle for the Autobots and gets Starscream off Primes back.

Sam who leaves the Empire State Building almost gets killed. Galvatron fires at Sam but Optimus jumps in front of the shot, heavily wounded. Galvatron then defeats Prime and throws him in the ocean. Galvatron has the Decepticons fall back. The Autobots retreat to Washington D.C. We see Optimus sink to the Ocean floor eyes dark.






The after credit sequence we see Optimus’s dark eyes light up.




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Postby Ironhide7 » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:16 pm

Here is my TF3 movie plot.

Galvatron confronts Starscream in the Rocky's. He finds out that Starscream betrayed him. Starscream flees. Galvatron tells the Decpticons that it is time to destroy humanity,once and for all.

Back in D.C. the Autobots who are leaderless gather in New York City. Hound is sent to find Prime. He returns w/ the matrix of leadership. They are then meet by Kup who has been on Earth as long as Bumblebee. Kup says that the matrix will go to the only one who is worthy.

Maggie and Glen find out that the Decepticons plan to attack D.C., from their they can destroy the rest of humanity. They send word to Keller. Keller is angry that they Autobots are nowhere to be found. We then meet Governor Berger who tells Keller that the Autobots have abbondend us and that they are working w/ the Decepticons.

Back in NYC the Autobots argue about who the matrix should go to. Ironhide puts an end to it all andtakes the matrix and throws it back in the ocean.

As the Decepticons mobolize for attack, Starscream heads to a military base and creates his own small army of Destucticons. He takes these to Galvatron to prove that he is not a traitor. Galvatron takes the warriors and rewelcomes Starscream.

The Autobots reassemble in D.C. only to find that Berger has taken up an army and has the Autobots surrender. Lennox tells berger that to do this he needs authorization from Keller. Berger say that Keller was the one who had him do this. The Autobots are taken to Nevada where they will be imprisoned.
The Decepticons who are nearing D.C. are stopped by a small squadron of F-22s. They are dealt w/ by the Destructicons.


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The autobots are taken to Nevada where they will be kept. But thanks to Sam he frees them. They drive back to Washington D.C.

The Decepticons who have now reached D.C. are being held at bay by Berger's forces. Galvatron and Starscream evade the forces and head straight for the Pentagon. But the Autobots arrive and defeat the Decepticons. Ironhide, Prowl, and Brawn corner Galvatron and Starscream. Starscream transforms and flees. And Galvatron defeats the Autobots, killing Brawn. Altoghether Grapple, Sideswipe, Scourge, Blitzwing, and the Destructicons were killed.

Galvatron has the Decepticons fall back to the underwater base that Soundwave and Shockwave built. Here Soundwave hacks into a military network telling all U.S. forces in the D.C. that the Autobots destroyed their holding facility. They also encounter two new troops. Sky/Jetfire and Rumble.

The Autobots who have now lost Prime, Brawn, Grapple, and Sideswipe, flee D.C. and plan to make one last stand. Sam feels quilty, for Prime wouldn't have died if it wasn't for him. Ironhide is named temporary leader for the Autobots. He has them split up and meet at Houston, Texas.

Maggie and Glen have discovered where the Decepticons are hiding. She tells Keller to send the Autobots to the Decepticons headquarters in the Pacific Ocean. Keller tells them that the Autobots are traitors.

Starscream who is hiding in an air force base waits for the final moment of the Autobots to destroy Galvatron. But his impatience leads him to attacking Galvatron before he attacks the Autobots.

Keller sends a battle group to the Decepticons base in the Ocean. Galvatron says he will take care of them. Starscream who was flying over the carriers, transforms and attacks Galvatron. They duel on the ship decks, destroying the humans as they go until Galvatron fianlly kills Starscream. Galvatron destroys the rest of the humans and heads to the base.

The Autobots meet up in Houston and return to Chicago. Galvatron has the Decepticons head to Chicago also. All hope seems lost for the Autobots until Prime shows up. Prime and Galvatron meet one last time and Prime kills Galvatron and the Decepticons are killed. Berger showed up in the battle and was killed in an explosion when Galvatron missed.

The Autobots return to D.C. and Keller tells the Autobots he is sorry. The president allows the Autobots to build a ship where they can find a new planet to call home.

The after credit sequence shows the Autobot’s ship drifting towards Earth.

I hope you liked it. Please comment. If you have any questions that I didn't write please just ask.
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Postby Nightracer GT » Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:54 pm

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Sounds cool to me Ironhide7. I'll think it over and combine what I want and anyone else can suggest their ideas to how my plot and his plot can tie together.
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Postby E.H.U.D. » Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:02 pm

Idea for Scorponok. Lennox brings it up in dialog somewhere, and some gov't character mentions they found him dead/dying in the dessert and destroyed him.
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Postby Ironhide7 » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:31 pm

I have noticed that in my TF2 and TF3 movie plot people are saying that I have to many characters that don't do anything.

Autobots:
Silverbolt- F-18 Hornet
Sunstreaker- Lamborghini - Kills Swindle
Cliffjumper- Camaro - The one who actual frees Bumblebee
Brawn- jeep
Sideswipe- Corvette
Powerglide- A-10
Prowl- Nissan GTR police car - Received message about Grimlock from Maggie and Glen
Grapple- crane
Hoist- tow truck - Helps get Prime out of the Decepticon HQ in the Rocky's
Hound- gunless humvee
Wheeljack- Pontiac firebird
Grimlock- T-Rex
Kup- 1950s pickup

Decepticons:
(Loyal to Galvatron)

Galvatron- Cybertronian tank
Cyclonus- Apache - Kills Sideswipe
Dead End- M113
Scourge- SU-47
Onslaught- MRLS - kills Grapple
Soundwave- SR71- Blackbird - rebuilds Galvatron
Dirge/Ramjet- F-35C - Destroy Naval forces guarding Galvatron
Barricade

Decepticons:
(separatist)
Starscream
Shockwave- Patriot Battery
Blitzwing- F-16/ Leopard tank
Swindle- Bradley Assault Vehicle
Thundercracker/Skywarp- F-22 - gather energon for machine to contain Galvatron.
Triggerhappy- F-4 Phantom- kills Hound
Thrust- F-35C - killed by Kup.
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Postby Ironhide7 » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:35 pm

I have noticed that in my TF2 and TF3 movie plot people are saying that I have to many characters that don't do anything.

Autobots:
Silverbolt- F-18 Hornet
Sunstreaker- Lamborghini - Kills Swindle
Cliffjumper- Camaro - The one who actual frees Bumblebee
Brawn- jeep
Sideswipe- Corvette
Powerglide- A-10
Prowl- Nissan GTR police car - Received message about Grimlock from Maggie and Glen
Grapple- crane
Hoist- tow truck - Helps get Prime out of the Decepticon HQ in the Rocky's
Hound- gunless humvee
Wheeljack- Pontiac firebird
Grimlock- T-Rex
Kup- 1950s pickup

Decepticons:
(Loyal to Galvatron)

Galvatron- Cybertronian tank
Cyclonus- Apache - Kills Sideswipe
Dead End- M113
Scourge- SU-47
Onslaught- MRLS - kills Grapple
Soundwave- SR71- Blackbird - rebuilds Galvatron
Dirge/Ramjet- F-35C - Destroy Naval forces guarding Galvatron
Barricade

Decepticons:
(separatist)
Starscream
Shockwave- Patriot Battery
Blitzwing- F-16/ Leopard tank
Swindle- Bradley Assault Vehicle
Thundercracker/Skywarp- F-22 - gather energon for machine to contain Galvatron.
Triggerhappy- F-4 Phantom- kills Hound
Thrust- F-35C - killed by Kup.
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Postby darkqueen01 » Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:19 pm

lalala... four notebook pages and couting. I think I am just gonna have to condense everything into a neat little summary.... even if that isn't as fun...

Dark Zarak wrote:But what do you think of mine? And can we work together on the story instead of competing? It kind of destroys what I had in mind for this whole thing...

I wish there was a better way of organizing this. Perhaps when we have an updated cast and storyline you could just edit the first post of this thread instead of adding new posts? That way everyone has only one spot to look at for when they make suggestions and succh. I think that would be the best way to go at this point.

Dark Zarak wrote:Galvatron and Shockwave fight, jumping from deck to deck of an entire fleet of aircraft carriers.


I don't care to see a Transforming air craft carrier.... but I would actually like to see this scene. It sounds extremely entertiaining.

Dark Zarak wrote:Jihaxus brings with him the Unicron Matrix, a powersource that can turn the Earth into a new Cybertron.

That... actually doesn't bother me. I enjoy that much more than Unicron devouring the planet idea.

Ironhide7 wrote:It starts with Optimus watching over Ratchet repair the wounded Jazz.

Do we really want to revive Jazz? I know there is history of doing this in the TF universe, but that is going to need some explanation for the greater audience. Is this an issue we seriously want to address? If not then Jazz should stay dead. *I know, it breaks my heart to say this, too.*

Ironhide7 wrote:Optimus grabbing the fragment from the Allspark takes it and heads back towards Chicago.

I think a lot of people have forgotten that Optimus took what was left of the All Spark fragment at the end of the movie. I feel this is very significant and needs to be included somehow. Maybe for an uber happy ending we can somehow save Cybertron? *shrugs*

Ironhide7 wrote:Epps and Lennox who now live in Washington D.C. leave to go to Florida to visit an old friend.

I can see these two showing up at some point, but I don't understand the story going on here with visiting a dead friend. How would this relate to the greater story?

Ironhide7 wrote:Epps and Lennox in Florida head to a cemetery where we find Fig’s gravestone. After that they head to Fig’s mom’s house for some fried gator and crickets.

:-? WTF?

Ironhide7 wrote:Sam who leaves the Empire State Building almost gets killed. Galvatron fires at Sam but Optimus jumps in front of the shot, heavily wounded. Galvatron then defeats Prime and throws him in the ocean. Galvatron has the Decepticons fall back. The Autobots retreat to Washington D.C. We see Optimus sink to the Ocean floor eyes dark.

The after credit sequence we see Optimus’s dark eyes light up.

Somehow, I would not be surprised if this happened in the actual movie. I love Optimus, my fave character, but if he was gone, then maybe we could focus on other characters briefly. And his eyes lighting up at the end.... very nice touch.

I personally do not want to work too heavily on TF3 until TF2 is flushed out more. However, I wanted to comment on this..

Ironhide7 wrote:Here is my TF3 movie plot.
Back in NYC the Autobots argue about who the matrix should go to. Ironhide puts an end to it all and takes the matrix and throws it back in the ocean.


I think this is nothing short of brilliant. If Optimus were to momentarilly die in these movies I would really love to see a scene like this. I think it is a great way to show another side of the autobots other than just the "fighting side" and is just a powerful scene overall.
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Postby Nightracer GT » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:15 am

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darkqueen01 wrote:lalala... four notebook pages and couting. I think I am just gonna have to condense everything into a neat little summary.... even if that isn't as fun...

Dark Zarak wrote:But what do you think of mine? And can we work together on the story instead of competing? It kind of destroys what I had in mind for this whole thing...

I wish there was a better way of organizing this. Perhaps when we have an updated cast and storyline you could just edit the first post of this thread instead of adding new posts? That way everyone has only one spot to look at for when they make suggestions and succh. I think that would be the best way to go at this point.


That's what I'm doing, but it's not really noticeable yet. The first post of the thread will be the discussion of 2, and as I note in said post, the second post of page 2 will be the discussion of 3.

Right now, I'm letting the new posts percolate, with Ironhide7's huge contribution it gives me a lot to think about before I make another update.

I think we should always have 3 in mind when we think about 2 because they are one big story, with two "mini plots" if you will.


Darkqueen, I am looking forward to these four pages of notebook paper. Doesn't strike me as a very wise way of doing it though, because are you going to type it eventually? :-P

Now is this your idea for the whole story, or just your idea as to why the public is still oblivious to the TF's, despite the huge final battle that would have 9-11 proportions culturally if it was real?

I'm looking forward to it regardless.
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Postby Gingy650 » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:24 am

My plot
Autobots
Optimus-Blue
Bumblebee-Chevy Camaro
Ironhide-GMC Sierra
Ratchet-Red and White
Speedbreak-Mercades Benz SLR Mclaren
Hound-Jeep Commander
Hot Shot-Acura TL
Mountain Dew Machine
Jazz-Pontiac Grand Prix
Decepticons
Megatron
Starscream
Blackout
Barricade-Ford NY Police Car
Shockwave-Looks like Brawl but Purple
Brawl
Bonecrusher
Swindle-Toyota Camry
Thundercracker-Starscream but Blue
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Postby Insurgent » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:16 am

Idea for Scorpinok: With the death of Frenzy, he becomes the new spy, tunneling under installations and using microphones and whatnot to listen in. Obviously, he isn't as good at it as Frenzy, but it's a way to get him in (and what I did).

Also, that aircraft jumping/fight scene is such a sweet idea, I may try to incorporate it into my TF3. Somehow.


As for oblivious to the battle, it would be extremely hard, if not impossible, to hide them, but they could claim it was a terrorist weapon that has since been destroyed, and the autobots have promised to stay in vehicle mode unless they are in a completely deserted area. Therefor, no alien robots to panic the citizens.
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Postby Nightracer GT » Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:15 pm

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darkqueen01 wrote:I don't care to see a Transforming air craft carrier....


That seems to be the consensus all around. Therefore, I'm leaning towards taking it out.

Now I love the idea of Superion fighting the aircraft carrier bot, however, even I admit that he would be vastly smaller than it.

Now I'm thinking an aircraft carrier bot would be somewhere in league with a G1 citybot so therefore it's kind of like Superion vs Trypticon, which is silly I admit.

But at the same time, assuming Superion has to even be there, who should he fight? I'd really like to lean away from another gestalt character, because I don't want this to be too flooded with gestalts. But then again, introducing Superion in the first place might be kind of silly.


So I had another idea for the transforming aircraft carrier:

Instead of it being an actual transformer character, why not have it be some kind of Decepticon battle platform? Think of it:

The humans think it's their normal ship. Then some people discover the sunken remains of the actual ship. Then the ship they thought was real suddenly starts transforming and the Con's fly down to the deck and start using it as their own battle platform.

In five minutes it went from being a human bastion against the robot threat to part of it. Literally. The survivors are floating in the water with a giant robot battle unfolding all around them and saying to themselves "who knew?" :-P

I think that's awesome personally. It's still the grandiose spectacle of a TF naval battle, and does away with a potentially silly idea of a character on that scale, transforming in the water and then hovering over it.


Insurgent wrote:Also, that aircraft jumping/fight scene is such a sweet idea, I may try to incorporate it into my TF3. Somehow.


What are your ideas for 3? You do understand that what I've posted in this thread may be "my" ideas, but I am in no way presenting all this as "my version". It's merely a suggested starting point. Therefore, we should lay out and discuss your ideas for 3 as well, especially since I'm drawing a blank on 3 at the moment.

This is all a team effort.


I like your idea for Scorponok. I have suggested Ravage be in one or both of these movies. Do we think he or Scorponok be the spy, and if Scorponok, do we want Ravage, and what for?
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Postby babylon queen » Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:07 pm

There should be more seekers and the dinobots.Don't forget the insecticons should also be in the next movie. :-?
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Postby DesalationReborn » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:36 pm

The first submission seems a bit off.

I personally favor a plot beginning with Starscream beaconing the other Decepticons in space to the Nemesis, only to have the majority lead by Soundwave disbelieve his story, hijack the ship, and continue on to attempt resurrecting Megatron on earth, while a faction composed of the more dim-witted or clandestine of them, with Shockwave making a partnership with Starsream, break off and search for a source of power to solidify there own, possibly attacking Prime for the last shard of the Allspark. The second team eventually discovers combining.

It's a bit similar to the old outline we were presented with, and is similar to a subplot first shown in G1, as well as a way to introduce Bruticus.
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Postby darkqueen01 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:18 am

Dark Zarak wrote:I think we should always have 3 in mind when we think about 2 because they are one big story, with two "mini plots" if you will.

This is true. I was thinking it, but did not write it. We definitely should keep 3 in mind. I personally can't think of the third until we have 2 pretty much flushed out, but if you all have ideas then go for it.

Dark Zarak wrote:Darkqueen, I am looking forward to these four pages of notebook paper. Doesn't strike me as a very wise way of doing it though, because are you going to type it eventually? :-P

Now is this your idea for the whole story, or just your idea as to why the public is still oblivious to the TF's, despite the huge final battle that would have 9-11 proportions culturally if it was real?


I always jot down story ideas in notebooks before typing them, mostly cause I can't bring a laptop with me everywhere. Than and I just enjoy the pen-to-paper element. I was trying to just write explanations and a summary to various ideas, but then I started writing out details of the one idea (public not knowing about Transformers) in "script form" and the ideas just kinda took off. I'm far enough along with my explanations and story idea that I think I can write a decent story idea so I will try adding it tomorrow to see what you guys think.... after I hide my copy of Super Mario Galaxy.

Insurgent wrote:As for oblivious to the battle, it would be extremely hard, if not impossible, to hide them, but they could claim it was a terrorist weapon that has since been destroyed, and the autobots have promised to stay in vehicle mode unless they are in a completely deserted area. Therefor, no alien robots to panic the citizens.


Haha. As much as I hate all these terrorist movies/books coming out (I see them as generic bad guys like nazi's) I am a sucker for government conspiracy theories so these are the two angles that I was going for. Blah. I can't explain now since I have to be up really early tomorrow and if I start I wont' stop. I will at least do my best to get a summary or something up tomorrow cause I am really interested in some feedback from you guys.
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Postby Nightracer GT » Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:30 am

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DesalationReborn wrote:The first submission seems a bit off.

I personally favor a plot beginning with Starscream beaconing the other Decepticons in space to the Nemesis, only to have the majority lead by Soundwave disbelieve his story, hijack the ship, and continue on to attempt resurrecting Megatron on earth, while a faction composed of the more dim-witted or clandestine of them, with Shockwave making a partnership with Starsream, break off and search for a source of power to solidify there own, possibly attacking Prime for the last shard of the Allspark. The second team eventually discovers combining.

It's a bit similar to the old outline we were presented with, and is similar to a subplot first shown in G1, as well as a way to introduce Bruticus.


Hmmm. Interesting.

So do you think there should be a "Bruticus" character like there was in G1, or do you think it would be cool to combine elements from the constructicons and combaticons and make a gestalt out of them? Of course, construction vehicles fit my plot, whereas they don't really with yours.

Well, I want to use elements from everyone, and I'll make changes if they are agreed upon and thought out. You've all seen my idea, so it could be time to do away with it.

I personally favor rewriting it to fit with yours, a compromise. What do people think?
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Postby Satomiblood » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:38 am

Dark Zarak wrote:I thought people hated flame Prime and all that.


I actually love Prime's design. Initially, when it was just concept art that was getting leaked, I thought the TF were getting the XTREME!!!! treatment. Then they grew on me to the point that I started loving them.

New alt modes for existing characters is a bad idea. It'd fit for Jazz, assuming they bring him back with that piece of the All-Spark Prime took out of Megatron's chest.

Where's Bobby Bolivia? Comic relief. And Sam's dad doesn't look like he'd be the Sparkclub from G1 where he helped repair the Autobots and such.
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Postby Grimlock18 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:47 pm

As I have repeated many times, an aircraft carrier transformer does NOT have to be a super carrier. It can be a "baby" carrier, like this.

And for people say Galvatron shouldn't be in TF 2 or 3, I say it is somewhat inevitable, as Megatron has become Galvatron in pretty much everything he has been in. It has almost become a law of nature.
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Postby DesalationReborn » Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:32 pm

Dark Zarak wrote:
DesalationReborn wrote:The first submission seems a bit off.

I personally favor a plot beginning with Starscream beaconing the other Decepticons in space to the Nemesis, only to have the majority lead by Soundwave disbelieve his story, hijack the ship, and continue on to attempt resurrecting Megatron on earth, while a faction composed of the more dim-witted or clandestine of them, with Shockwave making a partnership with Starsream, break off and search for a source of power to solidify there own, possibly attacking Prime for the last shard of the Allspark. The second team eventually discovers combining.

It's a bit similar to the old outline we were presented with, and is similar to a subplot first shown in G1, as well as a way to introduce Bruticus.


Hmmm. Interesting.

So do you think there should be a "Bruticus" character like there was in G1, or do you think it would be cool to combine elements from the constructicons and combaticons and make a gestalt out of them? Of course, construction vehicles fit my plot, whereas they don't really with yours.

Well, I want to use elements from everyone, and I'll make changes if they are agreed upon and thought out. You've all seen my idea, so it could be time to do away with it.

I personally favor rewriting it to fit with yours, a compromise. What do people think?


Well both characters were big, dumb brutes, so I don't see much difference. A big robot will be a big robot to the audience, and, frankly, Bruticus fits the Decepticon motto, and the style MB is headed for much better: a fast, hard war machine.

Other thoughts:
I personally don't like the idea of having any robot with resurrection abilities, let alone Soundwave, though I'm not sure how, besides the Matrix of Leadership, the first team could do it. Maybe having them steal it from Prime could give precident for a plot to steal back the Matrix before Unicron arrives in the third film.

At least as I understand it, you have Barricade attacking alone, though, if he's to survive on earth that long, he'd be much craftier than that. However, I'm not sure what side I'd put him on once discovered. Same for Scorponock.

The powerplant idea might work for the second team, though I like making it a mission for the Allspark Shard to bring them into conflict with the first group, and am weary of starting the energon storyline that was rehashed in the original cartoon 1000 times over.

The whole "human distrust" idea should only be a minimal blurb-- I'd hate to see it turn into a rehash of X-Men 2.

I'd just scale down the Wreckers to being a lost or separate Autobot contingent from the original landing Autobots-- makes things simpler, and makes sense, as the landing group's already shown they're into pretty extreme tactics in the first film.
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Postby Venomous Prime » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:02 pm

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Postby Nightracer GT » Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:47 am

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Interesting Desolation Reborn. You've given me a lot to think about.


Original Sin wrote:Why can't we call the character Skyfire?


Jetfire, Skyfire. Either or, really.

What do people think?
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Postby Insurgent » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:42 pm

Dark Zarak wrote:
Insurgent wrote:Also, that aircraft jumping/fight scene is such a sweet idea, I may try to incorporate it into my TF3. Somehow.


What are your ideas for 3? You do understand that what I've posted in this thread may be "my" ideas, but I am in no way presenting all this as "my version". It's merely a suggested starting point. Therefore, we should lay out and discuss your ideas for 3 as well, especially since I'm drawing a blank on 3 at the moment.

This is all a team effort.


I like your idea for Scorponok. I have suggested Ravage be in one or both of these movies. Do we think he or Scorponok be the spy, and if Scorponok, do we want Ravage, and what for?


I fully realise this is a joint effort. The reason I said 'my version' is because I started writing TF1 before I saw the movie, simply using trailers for reference for a couple of iconic scenes. As such, it ended completely different to the actual movie. Megs lives, there is no protoforms, they came in ships, Jazz lived, there is no sector 7, the Allspark is not in it, Frenzy doesn't appear till TF2, the Humans can't defeat them so easily (hence the intro of Cicuit Breaker and RAAT (Robot Ambush Assault Team) in TF3).

Basically, in TF1, they come to earth, they crash through Vegas, BB goes scouting, meets Sam and Mikaela when they 'win' him at a casino, Blackout cuts his voice off (literally), power plant gets attacked, big fight, Bonecrusher dies, Megs appears, turns out he was a prisoner of SS who gets an airlock embedded in his skull, Megs rips out his spark, ends up retreating when HUmans are convinced by Sam, Mikaela and BB to only target cons, Blackout is in a coma.

TF2: 1 year later. An englishman is trying to find tfs. Sam and Mikaela have gone home, not seen any tfs since. The guy tracks down Sam and Mik, eventually finds out he is in cahoots with other tf's. Meanwhile, Megs wants to knnow why a company has been producing things with Cybertronian elements for around 50 years. They all track him down, ends up with the guy and Soundwave being good friends and they try to send a signal to Cybertron to bring a task force to deal with Megs. Prime wants to stop the signal, but also stop Megs from killing anyone. Constructicons appear at teh antenna working with Soundwave, but they do not combine. Wont spoil the ending, you'll have to read it yourself. :P

TF3: picks up 3 days later. The cons are taking over the countries one by one, when they get attacked. a task force has arrived, and Circuit Breaker is also taking out cons and bots alike (an initiative set up by the englishman and Soundwave). Eventually, Prime realises they will have to team up with Megs to get rid of the task force. They try and even eventually convince Circuit Breaker to help (she was crippled in the power plant attack in TF1). Stunticons are part of the task force and combine. The now neutral Constructicons must also combine to stop the massacre.
They go to the base of operations, an aircraft carrier in the mediteranean. Big showdown with everyone, including Shockwave, Blitzwing and Chimera (someone who has polymorphic transformation abilities. In other words, he can transform into anything he's scanned, as long as it's of an equal size and mass.) Mik has been captured to ensure no bot interference, but big boarding party board craft. It transforms and fights everyone near the cliffs. BB and Sam end up alone inside the aircraft, rescue Mik, but something happens so only Sam is left inside. Uses the teleportation chip recovered from Skywarp (see TF2) and plants it in Tidal Wave's brain, causing him to teleport away somewhere unkown.

Shocks captures Megs, takes him away in his ship. Other cons agree to leave planet in their own ship. Bots get help to reactivate their own ship as thanks.

Near Jupiter, an explosion rocks the ship and Megs is blown free, falling towards the planet. (He does not have space flight ability.)

Ends with Mik standing on the cliff, watching sunset as BB comforts her.


As you can see, it doesn't really fit in with teh proper movie, but that's the general gist of the trilogy.

As he is the only original seeker not in the trilogy, I also wrote a short spotlight for Thundercracker set on Cybertron, which is not dead.
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Postby TheKnightShift » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:29 pm

I posted this on another thread awhile back already, but anyhoo here's what I came up with...

It should begin in keeping with the original, with an opening narration by Optimus Prime, explaining that it's now two of Earth's years later since Megatron and the Decepticons were defeated.

In the two years since then, many Autobots have heard Optimus's summons and have already come to Earth. The first real scene of Transformers 2 is a group of "meteors" streaking toward Earth, headed toward a predesignated landing site in the desert of southern Nevada. With cooperation from the U.S. government, Area 51 has now become the "Ellis Island" of the Autobot migrations. We see some of them land, they assume their protoforms and are welcomed by Ratchet (he even gives them a quick examination). The newly-arrived Autobots are then taken to an "assimilation facility" filled with dozens upon dozens of vehicles: cars, trucks, construction equipment, planes. These are transcanned and the Autobots now have their earthly modes.

It is revealed that not all Transformers have the "meteor" capability and that some require more "traditional" descent. Arcee, one of the new Autobot colonists who arrived in the past year, notifies the human Air Force liaison officer that an Autobot "landing pod" is also en route with a group of refugees.

Minutes before the pod is due to arrive though, Area 51 comes under sneak attack in a Decepticon air assault. Yes folks, Starscream has come back and he's brought his friends. Among the attackers is Blitzwing, who astonishes viewers with his ability to transform into a jet fighter and then a ground-based tank.

But the attack is a ruse. A "commando team" of six Decepticons – disguised as construction vehicles – launches a raid on the Area 51 research compound. They are stopped though by Optimus Prime, Ironhide, Hound, Brawl, and Kup. And it's thought that the Constructicons are dead for good.

The landing pod is blown off-course, and crashes further out in the desert, near an outdoor dinosaur museum that's been closed for renovations. We see giant fiberglass replicas of a t-rex, a triceratops, a stegosaur, a brontosaur and a pterodactyl. Five Autobot protoforms stumble out of the pod and in Cybertronian subtitles we see one of them tell the largest of the group that the primary directive upon landing is to transcan Earthly shapes and assume them. The big one, obviously the leader, looks at the t-rex and grunts in subtitles "Me like this one!"

What the Constructicons were after is soon revealed to the audience. The U.S. government, it turns out, has been holding out on the Autobots: years ago it was able to take a sample of the Allspark. The fragment was relocated to Area 51 for further study. Soundwave knew this because it was part of the files that Frenzy hacked from Sector Seven and Frenzy remotely uploaded this information to Soundwave.

Yup, Soundwave has been on Earth all this time, in deep cover and monitoring human communications. And he's already foiled whatever plans Starscream has had for Decepticon leadership by telling the Decepticons that not only does he know where Megatron was laid to rest but that they have a chance to restore him...

...because human scientists have not only kept a functioning piece of the Allspark, but they inadvertently created their own version of the artifact.

I'll cut to the cool part: the Allspark derivative is used in what's supposed to be a "controlled experiment" on the six lifeless husks of the Constructicons. It not only brings them to life but fully resurrects them altogether. They break out and rejoin the Decepticons in time for the big battle at the end of the movie.

But something is wrong: the six Constructicons begin to lose control of themselves and start screaming in their high-pitched language. And then they do something that has never seen before among the Transformers. Something that would have been impossible were it not for the humans meddling in things that they did not understand...

The secondary Allspark has evoked a mutation in the Constructicons. They are about to become an entirely new form of Cybertronian life: a gestalt of their individual bodies.

It doesn't have a name. It doesn't need a name. It's pure brutality and all Decepticon. And it proceeds to unleash holy havoc on the Autobots.

There is a lot more that I've envisioned for Transformers 2 (including Megatron), but you get the gist of it :grin:
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