The Energon Pub

by **Nemesis Cyberplex** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:29 pm

Personally, I thought the first movie was pretty good...but there was a lot of issues, namely the chicken/gorilla/bug hybrid that goes by the same name Starscream does. Bay has shown very little respect to the franchise & had no remorse for any changes he made due to nothing other than his preferences(i.e. Prime needs flames because I like painting the house green when everybody else thinks it should be blue), & for that, I think I'd like to see what somebody else with a bit more respect can do now that the world has been shown that the franchise is profitable within the movie-making industry.

by **AutobotServo** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:31 pm

Oh no, please don't go. What would we ever do without the master of cinema, the great Michael Bay?
:roll:

I think nothing but good can happen by seeing another director's vision of Transformers.
;)^

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:36 pm

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:Personally, I thought the first movie was pretty good...but there was a lot of issues, namely the chicken/gorilla/bug hybrid that goes by the same name Starscream does. Bay has shown very little respect to the franchise & had no remorse for any changes he made due to nothing other than his preferences(i.e. Prime needs flames because I like painting the house green when everybody else thinks it should be blue), & for that, I think I'd like to see what somebody else with a bit more respect can do now that the world has been shown that the franchise is profitable within the movie-making industry.

Why should he show remorse? He doesnt have to bow to what anyone of us fans like or don't like. He was given the reigns and ran with it.

Also on your sig part about Brawl. If it really was a goof they had plenty of time between the austrailia sneak premiere and the release to fix said goof. It has been stated from Bay that he changed the name back to devastator. We don't know for sure which is right however I'm not so sure I would state it as fact like your sig does.

by **roy_flagg00** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:37 pm

Xion wrote:
Conceptron wrote:
Robinson wrote:Scary Movie films not immature? Thats exactly what they are and they know it. I like a good parody of a movie anyday but when you do it to a specific person simply because you have a difference of opinion thats just lame.

Thank you.
I swear, if that fukin stupid mountaindewtron shows up in the next movie, I will walk out of the theater on General principal.
Then again, Bay is a MoneyBitch

The "stupid mountaindewtron" as you call it was better thought out than the little nokia bot with a bazooka and chaingun. At least the mountain dew machine used items it had within itself for ammo.

I want to see someone offer you lots of money for a crosspromotion and then you walk away. I would give my cousins left t****cle to see that. (I really don't think you would though). So let keep calling Bay a moneybitch because he gets paid for his chosen profession, so unless you are unemployed then we could in essence call you a moneybitch for not working for free.

I'm not a bay hater, nor a sympathiser. I'm just tired of people whining about so called crappy decisions that they would most likely have made if the same choises were given to them.

Erm, whatever happened to making a good film? Yes, you can do all the cross-promotion you want....but don't let that now dictate the ENTIRE film. As many people have said, the movie was one of the worst and most blatant product placement films out there.

Bay is not a film director, he just knows how to make money...NOT GOOD FILMS! Get him out and get someone who cares about the filmmaking process in there.

You say it that why I don't like Bay and that why he got the name I named him.

@Robinson
easy man everything's fine don't go nuts

BTW, thanks. That is going to be my signature now.

by **UnitedJazz** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:43 pm

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:Personally, I thought the first movie was pretty good...but there was a lot of issues, namely the chicken/gorilla/bug hybrid that goes by the same name Starscream does. Bay has shown very little respect to the franchise & had no remorse for any changes he made due to nothing other than his preferences(i.e. Prime needs flames because I like painting the house green when everybody else thinks it should be blue), & for that, I think I'd like to see what somebody else with a bit more respect can do now that the world has been shown that the franchise is profitable within the movie-making industry.

The thing was because Bay =(just for you Robinson)cares like **** about Transformers as I read in a magazine, he don't like to make the first one if Steven Spielberg wasn't so stubburn to get Bay as director.
Like bay said he doesn't like make a movie from toyline that just so stupid +/- like this was their words.

@roy_flagg00
:lol:

CaI just like to see Bay's face when he see that online. :lol:

Maybe Bay said no to Transformers 2 the movie also because he like to direct My little pony :lol:

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:52 pm

Xion wrote:
Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:Personally, I thought the first movie was pretty good...but there was a lot of issues, namely the chicken/gorilla/bug hybrid that goes by the same name Starscream does. Bay has shown very little respect to the franchise & had no remorse for any changes he made due to nothing other than his preferences(i.e. Prime needs flames because I like painting the house green when everybody else thinks it should be blue), & for that, I think I'd like to see what somebody else with a bit more respect can do now that the world has been shown that the franchise is profitable within the movie-making industry.

The thing was because Bay =(just for you Robinson)cares like **** about Transformers as I read in a magazine, he don't like to make the first one ever if Steven Spielberg wasn't so stubburn to get Bay as director.
Like bay said he doesn't like make a movie from toyline that just so stupid +/- like this was their words.

@roy_flagg00
CaI just like to see Bay's face when he see that online.

Maybe Bay said no to Transformers 2 the movie also because he like to direct My little pony

Bay has also stated that after he went to hasbro and saw a bunch of stuff and learned a little bit more insight into the franchise that he liked it and had fun making the movie. :lol:

If you take away the comics and japan that have kept the franchise alive for the most part then what do you have?

A 20 year old cartoon that is based on a toyline that hasbro wasn't even creative enough to make from scratch, they bought other companies toys and rebranded them.

News Credits: 3 · by **KoH4711** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:54 pm

I wonder if part of this has to do with the the "exception" in Paramount's decision to go HD, that all Spielberg's movies are going to be dual-format.

Who knows though... this could be another ploy to get a higher fee, but posting something on your web site as opposed to issuing a statement makes it seem a little more legit. I'm not a Bay hater, but there are days I would HATE to be his agent, no matter how much money it netted me.

by **UnitedJazz** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:55 pm

Robinson wrote:
Xion wrote:
Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:Personally, I thought the first movie was pretty good...but there was a lot of issues, namely the chicken/gorilla/bug hybrid that goes by the same name Starscream does. Bay has shown very little respect to the franchise & had no remorse for any changes he made due to nothing other than his preferences(i.e. Prime needs flames because I like painting the house green when everybody else thinks it should be blue), & for that, I think I'd like to see what somebody else with a bit more respect can do now that the world has been shown that the franchise is profitable within the movie-making industry.

The thing was because Bay =(just for you Robinson)cares like **** about Transformers as I read in a magazine, he don't like to make the first one ever if Steven Spielberg wasn't so stubburn to get Bay as director.
Like bay said he doesn't like make a movie from toyline that just so stupid +/- like this was their words.

@roy_flagg00
CaI just like to see Bay's face when he see that online.

Maybe Bay said no to Transformers 2 the movie also because he like to direct My little pony

Bay has also stated that after he went to hasbro and saw a bunch of stuff and learned a little bit more insight into the franchise that he liked it and had fun making the movie.

If you take away the comics and japan that have kept the franchise alive for the most part then what do you have?

A 20 year old cartoon that is based on a toyline that hasbro wasn't even creative enough to make from scratch, they bought other companies toys and rebranded them.

That's true

but isn't almost all US greatest brand like that look Microsoft.

by **Nemesis Cyberplex** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:00 pm

Robinson wrote:
Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:Personally, I thought the first movie was pretty good...but there was a lot of issues, namely the chicken/gorilla/bug hybrid that goes by the same name Starscream does. Bay has shown very little respect to the franchise & had no remorse for any changes he made due to nothing other than his preferences(i.e. Prime needs flames because I like painting the house green when everybody else thinks it should be blue), & for that, I think I'd like to see what somebody else with a bit more respect can do now that the world has been shown that the franchise is profitable within the movie-making industry.

Why should he show remorse? He doesnt have to bow to what anyone of us fans like or don't like. He was given the reigns and ran with it.

Also on your sig part about Brawl. If it really was a goof they had plenty of time between the austrailia sneak premiere and the release to fix said goof. It has been stated from Bay that he changed the name back to devastator. We don't know for sure which is right however I'm not so sure I would state it as fact like your sig does.

Considering that it is Hasbro's property, & they have yet to name him Devastator in any incarnation, my guess would be on Brawl. They were supposed to have final say on all TF names, not Michael Bay.

Anywho, to clear this up, I have sent Hasbro's website an inquiry reguarding his proper name. I should probably have an answer in a day or 2.

by **UnitedJazz** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:02 pm

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:
Robinson wrote:
Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:Personally, I thought the first movie was pretty good...but there was a lot of issues, namely the chicken/gorilla/bug hybrid that goes by the same name Starscream does. Bay has shown very little respect to the franchise & had no remorse for any changes he made due to nothing other than his preferences(i.e. Prime needs flames because I like painting the house green when everybody else thinks it should be blue), & for that, I think I'd like to see what somebody else with a bit more respect can do now that the world has been shown that the franchise is profitable within the movie-making industry.

Why should he show remorse? He doesnt have to bow to what anyone of us fans like or don't like. He was given the reigns and ran with it.

Also on your sig part about Brawl. If it really was a goof they had plenty of time between the austrailia sneak premiere and the release to fix said goof. It has been stated from Bay that he changed the name back to devastator. We don't know for sure which is right however I'm not so sure I would state it as fact like your sig does.
Considering that it is Hasbro's property, & they have yet to name him Devastator in any incarnation, my guess would be on Brawl. They were supposed to have final say on all TF names, not Michael Bay.

Anywho, to clear this up, I have sent Hasbro's website an inquiry reguarding his proper name. I should probably have an answer in a day or 2.

I think it was just a nickname for Brawl.

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:08 pm

Xion wrote:
Robinson wrote:
Xion wrote:
Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:Personally, I thought the first movie was pretty good...but there was a lot of issues, namely the chicken/gorilla/bug hybrid that goes by the same name Starscream does. Bay has shown very little respect to the franchise & had no remorse for any changes he made due to nothing other than his preferences(i.e. Prime needs flames because I like painting the house green when everybody else thinks it should be blue), & for that, I think I'd like to see what somebody else with a bit more respect can do now that the world has been shown that the franchise is profitable within the movie-making industry.

The thing was because Bay =(just for you Robinson)cares like **** about Transformers as I read in a magazine, he don't like to make the first one ever if Steven Spielberg wasn't so stubburn to get Bay as director.
Like bay said he doesn't like make a movie from toyline that just so stupid +/- like this was their words.

@roy_flagg00
CaI just like to see Bay's face when he see that online.

Maybe Bay said no to Transformers 2 the movie also because he like to direct My little pony

Bay has also stated that after he went to hasbro and saw a bunch of stuff and learned a little bit more insight into the franchise that he liked it and had fun making the movie.

If you take away the comics and japan that have kept the franchise alive for the most part then what do you have?

A 20 year old cartoon that is based on a toyline that hasbro wasn't even creative enough to make from scratch, they bought other companies toys and rebranded them.

That's true but isn't almost all US greatest brand like that look Microsoft.

I'm sorry to say this but I have trouble understanding some of your posts.

by **starhorse** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:09 pm

roy_flagg00 wrote:
Xion wrote:I agree now we all can see if Micheal Gay becomes a moneybitch. But I hope that Paramount show him the door.

Thank you.
I swear, if that fukin stupid mountaindewtron shows up in the next movie, I will walk out of the theater on General principal.
Then again, Bay is a MoneyBitch

Considering how much you disliked the first film, why would you go to a second one? Then again, you are a TransformersBitch...

by **Nemesis Cyberplex** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:11 pm

Xion wrote:
Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:
Robinson wrote:
Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:Personally, I thought the first movie was pretty good...but there was a lot of issues, namely the chicken/gorilla/bug hybrid that goes by the same name Starscream does. Bay has shown very little respect to the franchise & had no remorse for any changes he made due to nothing other than his preferences(i.e. Prime needs flames because I like painting the house green when everybody else thinks it should be blue), & for that, I think I'd like to see what somebody else with a bit more respect can do now that the world has been shown that the franchise is profitable within the movie-making industry.

Why should he show remorse? He doesnt have to bow to what anyone of us fans like or don't like. He was given the reigns and ran with it.

Also on your sig part about Brawl. If it really was a goof they had plenty of time between the austrailia sneak premiere and the release to fix said goof. It has been stated from Bay that he changed the name back to devastator. We don't know for sure which is right however I'm not so sure I would state it as fact like your sig does.
Considering that it is Hasbro's property, & they have yet to name him Devastator in any incarnation, my guess would be on Brawl. They were supposed to have final say on all TF names, not Michael Bay.

Anywho, to clear this up, I have sent Hasbro's website an inquiry reguarding his proper name. I should probably have an answer in a day or 2.

I think it was just a nickname for Brawl.

It was supposed to be his codename. All the minor player TFs had code names to keep their identities a secret so fans wouldn't be picking apart the movie ahead of time based on character choice.....that & so hasbro had time to come up with the name copyrights for the toys.

Actually it was probably moreso the latter than the former.

News Credits: 1 · by **Blackstreak** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:12 pm

Aw man! That stinks on both accounts. Get use the Bay'formers, love 'em then 'no more'. Paramount sucks big time.

News Credits: 1 · by **QuietStorm** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:40 pm

Bottom Out wrote:blue ray is the disc of the future, paramount are fools to not release this on the superior platform.

the reason vhs won verses beta was because the porn industry chose vhs...guess which platform the porn industry chose this time.....blueray...

That's a fictious myth. It's because people wanted to be able to record longer. And Sony was bullish and arrogant and decided that people didn't want longer tapes, but higher quality. But everyone knows that the average American football game is roughly 4 hours, and if you wanna tape that with a Beta, you have to be at home to do so because Beta only ran for 2 hour lengths.

Get your head outta your aft and start thinking before you post myths as your grounds for a debate.

Word.

by **UnitedJazz** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:42 pm

Robinson wrote:
Xion wrote:
Robinson wrote:
Xion wrote:
Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:Personally, I thought the first movie was pretty good...but there was a lot of issues, namely the chicken/gorilla/bug hybrid that goes by the same name Starscream does. Bay has shown very little respect to the franchise & had no remorse for any changes he made due to nothing other than his preferences(i.e. Prime needs flames because I like painting the house green when everybody else thinks it should be blue), & for that, I think I'd like to see what somebody else with a bit more respect can do now that the world has been shown that the franchise is profitable within the movie-making industry.

The thing was because Bay =(just for you Robinson)cares like **** about Transformers as I read in a magazine, he don't like to make the first one ever if Steven Spielberg wasn't so stubburn to get Bay as director.
Like bay said he doesn't like make a movie from toyline that just so stupid +/- like this was their words.

@roy_flagg00
CaI just like to see Bay's face when he see that online.

Maybe Bay said no to Transformers 2 the movie also because he like to direct My little pony

Bay has also stated that after he went to hasbro and saw a bunch of stuff and learned a little bit more insight into the franchise that he liked it and had fun making the movie.

If you take away the comics and japan that have kept the franchise alive for the most part then what do you have?

A 20 year old cartoon that is based on a toyline that hasbro wasn't even creative enough to make from scratch, they bought other companies toys and rebranded them.

That's true but isn't almost all US greatest brand like that look Microsoft.

I'm sorry to say this but I have trouble understanding some of your posts.

Yeah I know this problem, I try my best that my phrases becomes understandable.
What didn't you understand ?

@starhorse

Actually I like the movie even that Bay was going too far with the publicity like "this is better then Armageddon" or all the commercial stuff like HP, Panasonic etc. Of caurse we find those items in the real life, too but in a movie that's look like a propaganda to buy your stuff. And that's the point I don't like Bay and the fact that Bay like Optimus Prime with lips.
Why I will go looking the second movie if there is one ? Because even many negative points the movie is good could be better but good. And I enjoyed the battles between Autobots and Decepticons. And because there is always the hope that the second movie is better then the first.
Transformersbitch of caurse I'm a Transformersbitch I think who doesn't, if the user don't like Transformers they aren't here, isn't it.

News Credits: 972 · by **i_amtrunks** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:42 pm

And now he is blaming the grog for his post.

Don't know about anyone else, but his original post was fairly co-herant for someone who had been on the turps for hours.

I knew I should not have gotten my hopes up that he would not be coming back.

by **Phoenix_306** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:42 pm

What a pathetic whiner!!! This is gret news, maybe the next TF can have some plot to it, and you might be able to make stuff out!!

I saw some making of the movie kinda programmes before the film came out, and Bay was a complete arse - he really had a go at some poor guy because his coffee was too cold or something stupid, and whenever he was having a bad day, really took it out on people around him - so i for one am glad he'll be off the movie. He can crawl off to Sony and screw up Spidey 4.

Jeeze.....

by **Taiya001** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:47 pm

IF YOU WATCH THIS SITE MR.BAY PLEASE DONT QUIT. THE MOVIE WAS TOOO AWSOME TO BE FIGHTING OVER A FORMAT OF A DISK.

by **UnitedJazz** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:59 pm

Phoenix_306 wrote:What a pathetic whiner!!! This is gret news, maybe the next TF can have some plot to it, and you might be able to make stuff out!!

I saw some making of the movie kinda programmes before the film came out, and Bay was a complete arse - he really had a go at some poor guy because his coffee was too cold or something stupid, and whenever he was having a bad day, really took it out on people around him - so i for one am glad he'll be off the movie. He can crawl off to Sony and screw up Spidey 4.

Jeeze.....

Yo bro you the man.

News Credits: 2 · by **Sid Burn** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:00 pm

The exclusive deal between HDDVD and Paramount is for 18 months

The TF movie will find its way to blu ray.

This is just a last ditch effort by HDDVD investors to save a dying, inferior product.

HDDVD supporters picked wrong, this 150 million dollar deal is the last breath of HDDVD

Website · by **Fires_Of_Inferno** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:02 pm

Ok! Let's clear out all of Bay's crap, come on, move it all out! No no! Not those robot designs, we have to be consistant. Ok, let's get us a director who can make these robots actual characters rather than background props.

News Credits: 4 · by **zatara1701** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:12 pm

Two things...

1) Bay is stupid!! What kind of paycheck is he passing up just because Paramount doesnt want to release it on Blu-ray?? I have principles too, but I dont think Id pass up the paycheck thats connected to a $500 million movie.

2) Blu-ray is the 21st centuries Beta-max...made by the same people for crying out loud. I dont hear anyone getting mad at Sony Pictures (that makes TONS of blockbusters) getting crap for only releasing their movies on Blu-ray. Heck, they are even trying to force it down your throat when you buy a PS3!!

Like the Beta-max, Blu-ray is more expensive technology, and big studios will support what sells more units. Lower prices sell more units not to mention it saves THEM money. If Bay says no because of that... so be it. He did his job, opening up the franchise :grin: