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keeknuts wrote:Tramp wrote:Those are Alternators.
Duh!!!! He was just suggesting that those could be possible forms for soundwave. Here you go again me, me, me!!! The world does not revolve around your comments. The majority of the people on this forum (from reading comments) seem agree that soundwave should not be a boombox.
esclavo wrote:keeknuts wrote:Tramp wrote:Those are Alternators.
Duh!!!! He was just suggesting that those could be possible forms for soundwave. Here you go again me, me, me!!! The world does not revolve around your comments. The majority of the people on this forum (from reading comments) seem agree that soundwave should not be a boombox.
Don't be so hard on Tramp. He has his opinion and it is a strong one, we should respect that and don't attack anyone when we disagree. We can agree to disagree can't we?
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Personally I thought a helicopter was reasonable, before they codenamed him Incenerator/Vortex & finally called it Blackout. But I really like the looks of that comm truck on page 1.Shadowman wrote:Unless they can find something reasonable for Soundwave to be, then no Soundwave.
keeknuts wrote:esclavo wrote:keeknuts wrote:Tramp wrote:Those are Alternators.
Duh!!!! He was just suggesting that those could be possible forms for soundwave. Here you go again me, me, me!!! The world does not revolve around your comments. The majority of the people on this forum (from reading comments) seem agree that soundwave should not be a boombox.
Don't be so hard on Tramp. He has his opinion and it is a strong one, we should respect that and don't attack anyone when we disagree. We can agree to disagree can't we?
Agree, but if you have read any of the other comments he was posted he always finds a way to either downsize others ideas or to make those ideas seem obliviously not to par with his. Trump I'm not trying to take you down or say that your concept of what soundwave should be is wrong, but I think you need to just lay off it just a little when commenting on what everyone else thinks, especially when they dont agree wi9th you ideas.
Auto Bot wrote:Soundwave is the news-crew van.
Frenzy, Rumble, Ravage, Ratbat pops out of the van.
Frenzy and Rumble are news-crew men. Human form, but robot inside.
Ravage is a video equipment.
Ratbat is the van antenna. Ratbat transforms and flies.
Tramp wrote:Auto Bot wrote:Soundwave is the news-crew van.
Frenzy, Rumble, Ravage, Ratbat pops out of the van.
Frenzy and Rumble are news-crew men. Human form, but robot inside.
Ravage is a video equipment.
Ratbat is the van antenna. Ratbat transforms and flies.
Frenzy is dead. Secondly, a news van is sure to draw attention. It's a huge advertisement saying "something big is going down, come check it out!" Real inconspicuous.
You'ld think the same thing about an emergency vehicle fleeing from a firey crash site instead of rushing to it to provide support, yet it was in the first movie.Tramp wrote:Auto Bot wrote:Soundwave is the news-crew van.
Frenzy, Rumble, Ravage, Ratbat pops out of the van.
Frenzy and Rumble are news-crew men. Human form, but robot inside.
Ravage is a video equipment.
Ratbat is the van antenna. Ratbat transforms and flies.
Frenzy is dead. Secondly, a news van is sure to draw attention. It's a huge advertisement saying "something big is going down, come check it out!" Real inconspicuous.
The very fact that his head was split in two is what makes him permanently dead. His brain case is destroyed. That is universally fatal. You are also missing my point. It is Soundwave that needs to be a boombox. End of story. No vehicle fits him. They are all too conspicuous or have nothing to do with his function or name which was based off of his alternate mode to begin with.kendragon wrote:hey they might bring frenzy back for the sequel... it was only his head split in two... nothing major.... then you'll have your boombox/radio back and soundwave can be a newsvan/comms vehicle/jap import with speakers/etc./etc. and everyone will be happy.
nemesis Cyberplex wrote:You'ld think the same thing about an emergency vehicle fleeing from a firey crash site instead of rushing to it to provide support, yet it was in the first movie.
Seriously, man, in a movie series where everything in the modern world was supposedly backwards-engineered from an frozen robot found around 1910, which anybody could look in a history book & figure out to be complete BS....not to mention a human-sized robot, in broad view of everybody, hopping off of Air Force 1 after an attack & getting into a police car without anybody noticing......& you believe nothing other than a big-ass boombox could infiltrate the nearest power plant to steal its formula for anti-matter because anything other than that would be too noticable, that & his minions are useless anyway....aside from carrying him off(as if a giant robotic bird flying him out of the plant wouldn't be obvious enough)?
I think at this point, you're just grasping at straws....about 19 pages worth.....
Tramp wrote:The very fact that his head was split in two is what makes him permanently dead. His brain case is destroyed. That is universally fatal.kendragon wrote:hey they might bring frenzy back for the sequel... it was only his head split in two... nothing major.... then you'll have your boombox/radio back and soundwave can be a newsvan/comms vehicle/jap import with speakers/etc./etc. and everyone will be happy.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Justicity wrote:tyler1451 wrote:iPod dock with speakers, sorry but he will be something small
maybe this will be him,
Ok... I can understand a "Boombox", but an Ipod?
Have you seen how tiny they are? Even with mass shifting, it'd still be a stupidly thin/tiny robot.
With the dock... It'd still be quite small, but at least it would be a bit more bulky.
Shadowman wrote:Tramp wrote:The very fact that his head was split in two is what makes him permanently dead. His brain case is destroyed. That is universally fatal.kendragon wrote:hey they might bring frenzy back for the sequel... it was only his head split in two... nothing major.... then you'll have your boombox/radio back and soundwave can be a newsvan/comms vehicle/jap import with speakers/etc./etc. and everyone will be happy.
To prove this point:
How many Transformers were shot in the chest (Which is most commonly where the Spark is located) in the '86 movie?
See, this is the thing that gets it right there. You're talking about a civillian institution here. Why then would stealth even be necessary? They could simply smash in, take what they want, & smash back out before anybody that could stop them would be the wiser. Key part: ANYBODY THAT COULD STOP THEM. I mean, if Blackout can do it at a military base, where they are somewhat equipped to stop a giant alien robot from getting what he wants, why would a civillian institution, where they wouldn't be prepared be a threat? & afterwards, he could turn into something not too terribly conspicuous, similar to what Ratchet did after landing, & no one would be the wiser.Tramp wrote:office building of some technology firm or something like that
tyler1451 wrote:Justicity wrote:tyler1451 wrote:iPod dock with speakers, sorry but he will be something small
maybe this will be him,
Ok... I can understand a "Boombox", but an Ipod?
Have you seen how tiny they are? Even with mass shifting, it'd still be a stupidly thin/tiny robot.
With the dock... It'd still be quite small, but at least it would be a bit more bulky.
no the dock, the ipod is laser beak
Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:See, this is the thing that gets it right there. You're talking about a civillian institution here. Why then would stealth even be necessary? They could simply smash in, take what they want, & smash back out before anybody that could stop them would be the wiser. Key part: ANYBODY THAT COULD STOP THEM. I mean, if Blackout can do it at a military base, where they are somewhat equipped to stop a giant alien robot from getting what he wants, why would a civillian institution, where they wouldn't be prepared be a threat? & afterwards, he could turn into something not too terribly conspicuous, similar to what Ratchet did after landing, & no one would be the wiser.Tramp wrote:office building of some technology firm or something like that
....Let me guess response would be: But he would draw too much attention- Boombox. Right?
Sentinel Pax wrote:Well, for being worried about attracting too much attention, you don't seem to have a problem with Soundwave smashing in the roof, and then waiting for Barricade, A POLICE CAR, to come pick him up. Soundwave is a Transformer, not some junior high kid waiting for his mom outside the movie theatre. He needs to have an alt mode which will allow him to function on his own, while holding his minions. Like something with wheels. And an engine. I'm leaning towards...a car. I just don't understand why you feel Soundwave has to have an alt mode so similar to his G1 role. I highly doubt the name Soundwave, when translated into Cybertronian, reads, "My name is about Sound, so I can't be any type of surveillance vehicle, so I should be a boombox."
Why not just hack the net, find out all of this stuff, & then do a smash & grab? They could do that from a secure location where being conspicuous isn't even a factor.Tramp wrote:
Why would they sneak in, instead of just a smash and grab? Simple. Reconnaicsance. They use stealth to infiltrate and gather information on their objective as well as their human subjects, then once that phase is complete, then, and only then, do they move on to stage two which is aquiring their objectives.
No, the difference would be the kind of resistance. A civillian location would have mall type rent-a-cops at best....might have a pistol...might. A government location would have armed secret service types with possible hot-buttons for calling in military backup...provided they could get there in time before the intruder gets away. Military institution would really be the only real threat, & even then the comm truck idea would be perfect for sneaking in minions.This same scenerio works for both a civilian target (private or government) or military target. It doesn't matter which. If the same scenerio were used on a military base, The only thing that would change is who does the pick-up. On a military base, it would be a Decepticon with a military alternate mode.
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