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wingdarkness wrote:

Altertron wrote:for those who have seen transformers movie in 1986 will heard of Nelson Shin. because he's the orignal director of transformers! i realized after seeing the movie for a couple of times, bay isn't good at storytelling or making the robots in the film to show more emotion. his direction isn't all bad, it's basically a popcorn flick, action after action. but Nelson Shin on the other hand made the audiences cried when he made prime die. so i guess this pretty much sums up what i'm talking about. it's a good start for a bay to make the first, then pass the torch to another director that has a different approach in his direction of the film in mind. if hollywood does choose Shin over Bay, the movie will be 10x emotional than titanic in 97!!!

Peter Jackson, James Cameron, John Woo, Robert Zemekis, Chimpanzee that graduated from Harvard, all could do better than Bay...But unfortunatley all Hollywood sees is chedder and Bay delivered the chedder so he's gonna get first rights to grease-up the next movie aswell while laffing at everyone in the fanbase that wants to cut themselves at the mere mention of his name...

As for TF the movie from 1986 I get more emotional watching the end credits than I got from anything in Bayformers...Even Anthony Anderson who starred in the movie said the scene when Jazz dies was the dumbest $hit ever..."Oh Jazz is dead..."-cue the end credits...

Speak for yourself. Incase you hadnt noticed, ALOT of us fans like the movie and want things to stay the same.

Sonray wrote:

wingdarkness wrote:

Altertron wrote:for those who have seen transformers movie in 1986 will heard of Nelson Shin. because he's the orignal director of transformers! i realized after seeing the movie for a couple of times, bay isn't good at storytelling or making the robots in the film to show more emotion. his direction isn't all bad, it's basically a popcorn flick, action after action. but Nelson Shin on the other hand made the audiences cried when he made prime die. so i guess this pretty much sums up what i'm talking about. it's a good start for a bay to make the first, then pass the torch to another director that has a different approach in his direction of the film in mind. if hollywood does choose Shin over Bay, the movie will be 10x emotional than titanic in 97!!!

Peter Jackson, James Cameron, John Woo, Robert Zemekis, Chimpanzee that graduated from Harvard, all could do better than Bay...But unfortunatley all Hollywood sees is chedder and Bay delivered the chedder so he's gonna get first rights to grease-up the next movie aswell while laffing at everyone in the fanbase that wants to cut themselves at the mere mention of his name...

As for TF the movie from 1986 I get more emotional watching the end credits than I got from anything in Bayformers...Even Anthony Anderson who starred in the movie said the scene when Jazz dies was the dumbest $hit ever..."Oh Jazz is dead..."-cue the end credits...

Speak for yourself. Incase you hadnt noticed, ALOT of us fans like the movie and want things to stay the same.

thn ur not a reel fan lol.

ths muvy sucked. im prolly gunna watch g1 after this puke.

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It was so hard typing that. As if a thousand Grammar Cops cried out in terror, then were suddenly silenced.

wingdarkness wrote:Peter Jackson, James Cameron, John Woo, Robert Zemekis, Chimpanzee that graduated from Harvard, all could do better than Bay...But unfortunatley all Hollywood sees is chedder and Bay delivered the chedder so he's gonna get first rights to grease-up the next movie aswell while laffing at everyone in the fanbase that wants to cut themselves at the mere mention of his name...

Those people DESERVE to be laughed at.

I mean really, if someone is going to inflict self-harm on themselves over this movie then cut away. They will be mocked. At least have a decent reason like you're bordering on bankrupt or you've lost a loved one ... not because you didn't like a movie. That's just ... lame.

Shadowman wrote:

Sonray wrote:

wingdarkness wrote:

Altertron wrote:for those who have seen transformers movie in 1986 will heard of Nelson Shin. because he's the orignal director of transformers! i realized after seeing the movie for a couple of times, bay isn't good at storytelling or making the robots in the film to show more emotion. his direction isn't all bad, it's basically a popcorn flick, action after action. but Nelson Shin on the other hand made the audiences cried when he made prime die. so i guess this pretty much sums up what i'm talking about. it's a good start for a bay to make the first, then pass the torch to another director that has a different approach in his direction of the film in mind. if hollywood does choose Shin over Bay, the movie will be 10x emotional than titanic in 97!!!

Peter Jackson, James Cameron, John Woo, Robert Zemekis, Chimpanzee that graduated from Harvard, all could do better than Bay...But unfortunatley all Hollywood sees is chedder and Bay delivered the chedder so he's gonna get first rights to grease-up the next movie aswell while laffing at everyone in the fanbase that wants to cut themselves at the mere mention of his name...

As for TF the movie from 1986 I get more emotional watching the end credits than I got from anything in Bayformers...Even Anthony Anderson who starred in the movie said the scene when Jazz dies was the dumbest $hit ever..."Oh Jazz is dead..."-cue the end credits...

Speak for yourself. Incase you hadnt noticed, ALOT of us fans like the movie and want things to stay the same.

thn ur not a reel fan lol.

ths muvy sucked. im prolly gunna watch g1 after this puke.

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It was so hard typing that. As if a thousand Grammar Cops cried out in terror, then were suddenly silenced.

That hurt just reading it, but it was a spot on impression of TF the Movie cry-babies.

wingdarkness wrote:everyone in the fanbase that wants to cut themselves at the mere mention of his name...

The Transformers fanbase is emo?

Blackout  wrote:

wingdarkness wrote:As for TF the movie from 1986 I get more emotional watching the end credits than I got from anything in Bayformers...Even Anthony Anderson who starred in the movie said the scene when Jazz dies was the dumbest $hit ever..."Oh Jazz is dead..."-cue the end credits...

Stop appealing to authority for your argument. So what that Anderson said that. Peter Cullen loved the movie, so I guess we're at a standstill, wingbaby.

And what's Bayformers? Is it a movie about machines that create bays? What a dumb term. Bayformers. Reminds me of kids in high school altering a name to insult someone they don't like. Not clever and not a real argument.

Yeah just keep doing what you do best Blackout...Skimming over the meat and bones and attacking the grissle..It's become your theme...

Anyhoo Peter Cullen isn't an idiot if you insult the movie Bay wil have his revenge and get Keanu Reeves to voice Prime in the next movie...Not that Cullen loving it is the point...

Not that you'd believe this but I live in New Orleans, La and worked on the set of the new Fox TV show K-ville starring Anthony Anderson last week...He's a pretty cool dude and we talked about the Tf movie both days I was on-set (About 20 mins of actual conversation, not some fan stalking bull$hit)...So what he shared with me was OFF THE RECORD (unlike Cullen making your comeback meaningless)...Now he did kinda get on me when I told him I was pi$$ed off Prime had lips, he said "$hit the muthaf**ka didn't have lip-stick did he?" Yeah we all laffed, but he did tell me how dumb Jazz getting killed was an how that $hit wasn't cool (especially the drama of the moment when Prime talked about his death) and that the plot was dumb as hell whenever a guy like him has to save the world, but he's not a fool, he was in it for the paycheck, but he couldn't deny all the my opinions on Bay...He basically agreed in his own comical way...

Oh and finally, "Bayformers" is the $hit you watched and enjoyed...

wingdarkness wrote:Oh and finally, "Bayformers" is the $hit you watched and enjoyed...

No...no I'm quite sure the title was Tranformers.

The Wikipedia article
The IMDb page.

But when I look for Bayformers, I get this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=Bayformers&go=Go

And this:

http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=Bayformers

You don't think someone who worked on the movie's opinion is more valid than yours (not that it superceeds or trumps all your opinions, but Anderson has insight you and I'll never have)...Yeah I might have to stop ressponding back to your posts...And when you watch K-ville episode 2 that airs sept 24th I'll be the dude with a white visor on and blue shades in the club while Anderson is singing Kareoke--not that it means anything...

^Quite futile when no commonsense is involved, but continue with your examination please...He simply was in the movie...and you said his opinion on what he did and saw in the movie was less valid than John Q. Blackout's opinion...OK, I guess you apply this thinking to all walks of life... "The serial killer's opinon on murdering people isn't as valid as mine..." Forget the fact that HE MURDERS PEOPLE and you DON'T(being Off the record with his comments to me simply nullifies your Cullen point when his opinion is of public record...Anderson would no doubt say the same thing if I was interviewing him for DVD box quote)...

No way, Keep Bay. I'm sick of people whining about keeping stuff classic, transformers was good, but sometimes u gotta innovate and change things up a bit, I think the toys were good, the movie was good, and michael bay was a good director, stop trying to keep everything the way it was in the original cartoon, imagine if in the movie optimus would have had a cargo box and everytime he transformed it just dissapeared, gosh be true transformers fans.

wingdarkness wrote:Oh and finally, "Bayformers" is the $hit you watched and enjoyed...

More like the awesome movie you watched and hated due to lack of taste. 90% of the rest of the fandom calls it transformers. Now take your head out where the sun dont shine.

wingdarkness wrote:You don't think someone who worked on the movie's opinion is more valid than yours (not that it superceeds or trumps all your opinions, but Anderson has insight you and I'll never have)...Yeah I might have to stop ressponding back to your posts...And when you watch K-ville episode 2 that airs sept 24th I'll be the dude with a white visor on and blue shades in the club while Anderson is singing Kareoke--not that it means anything...

Wow! You're an extra in a show I've never heard of? Holy ****! Can you sign my autograph book?

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No, an actor's opinion isn't more valid than mine, because, as you said, he only saw it as a paycheck. The writer's, the director's, the producers, and possibly even George Lucas's. (He owns ILM, after all.)

I don't care what the actor's say. I care what the people who actually made the movie say. Talking and running do not a movie make.

Sonray wrote:More like the awesome movie you watched and hated due to lack of taste.

So you're basically saying that anyone who didn't like the movie has no taste?

That was a real smart move there...

Whisper wrote:

Sonray wrote:More like the awesome movie you watched and hated due to lack of taste.

So you're basically saying that anyone who didn't like the movie has no taste?

That was a real smart move there...

no i said that you have no taste, theres a big difference.

If i wanted to say the words that you tried to twist and put into my mouth i would have said so in the first place.

Sizzle.

Sonray wrote:no i said that you have no taste, theres a big difference.

If i wanted to say the words that you tried to twist and put into my mouth i would have said so in the first place.

Sizzle.

Yet you are still saying he has no taste, because he hated the movie.

I hate the movie as well, does that mean that I have no taste?

Every single person on this blasted planet has different tastes according to their own personal take on things. Just because their opinions differ from yours doesn't mean to say they're wrong, are they?

That being said, both wingdarkness and Conceptron could probably do with lessons in tact and diplomacy. Then again they might not. It all depends on peoples' individual tastes really...

Whisper wrote:

Sonray wrote:no i said that you have no taste, theres a big difference.

If i wanted to say the words that you tried to twist and put into my mouth i would have said so in the first place.

Sizzle.

Yet you are still saying he has no taste, because he hated the movie.

I hate the movie as well, does that mean that I have no taste?

Every single person on this blasted planet has different tastes according to their own personal take on things. Just because their opinions differ from yours doesn't mean to say they're wrong, are they?

That being said, both wingdarkness and Conceptron could probably do with lessons in tact and diplomacy. Then again they might not. It all depends on peoples' individual tastes really...

Sorry i mistook you for Wingdarkness, as it was he who i said that comment to that you quoted to me. I thought i was talking to him, so my bad.

No worries d00d!

Anyways, please feel free to continue the banter between wingdarkness and yourself, I'm rather enjoying this...

Whisper wrote:No worries d00d!

Anyways, please feel free to continue the banter between wingdarkness and yourself, I'm rather enjoying this...

Im afraid im going to do my best to not oblige there. I dont want to get into another pointless flame war.

But onto the topic at hand...i just looked up Nelson Shin on IMDB.....all i can say is: lol

Sonray wrote:

Whisper wrote:No worries d00d!

Anyways, please feel free to continue the banter between wingdarkness and yourself, I'm rather enjoying this...

Im afraid im going to do my best to not oblige there. I dont want to get into another pointless flame war.

But onto the topic at hand...i just looked up Nelson Shin on IMDB.....all i can say is: lol

Two things since TF:TM, some Korean thing, and a family movie about toads.

Wow. Keep him the hell away from TF2.

Whisper wrote:

Sonray wrote:no i said that you have no taste, theres a big difference.

If i wanted to say the words that you tried to twist and put into my mouth i would have said so in the first place.

Sizzle.

Yet you are still saying he has no taste, because he hated the movie.

I hate the movie as well, does that mean that I have no taste?

Every single person on this blasted planet has different tastes according to their own personal take on things. Just because their opinions differ from yours doesn't mean to say they're wrong, are they?

That being said, both wingdarkness and Conceptron could probably do with lessons in tact and diplomacy. Then again they might not. It all depends on peoples' individual tastes really...

Or we could ask them their opinion on Erica Campbell.

I can forgive you for not liking the movie because of your obsession for Miss Campbell after all.