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by **Rat Convoy** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:54 pm

Looks like OS has instituted the beginnings of the robot mode abilities - and they will, in fact, have abilities.

So far the abilities do not appear to affect level, and there is only one choosable robot mode with abilities. Just gave Optimus Prime 5 points in it and threw him in a mission...

We'll see if anything interesting happens.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:00 pm

For now, don't use them on anything that you aren't willing to reset.

I think I found a bug. My guys lose their tactics when I give them a Robot mode.

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:01 pm

Deadboy wrote:Looks like OS has instituted the beginnings of the robot mode abilities - and they will, in fact, have abilities.

So far the abilities do not appear to affect level, and there is only one choosable robot mode with abilities. Just gave Optimus Prime 5 points in it and threw him in a mission...

We'll see if anything interesting happens.

There's 2. You click on metropplex, but it reverts back to the Protoform mode after a moment. And the bot ability goes away from the bio page, and you have to click on theirt bot mode in the upgrade for it to give you the stats.

News Credits: 5 · by **Omega Sentinel** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:02 pm

Caelus wrote:For now, don't use them on anything that you aren't willing to reset.

I think I found a bug. My guys lose their tactics when I give them a Robot mode.

Yeah. I can't duplicate your problem on my bots though Caelus. Anyone else seeing this problem?

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:03 pm

Caelus wrote:For now, don't use them on anything that you aren't willing to reset.

I think I found a bug. My guys lose their tactics when I give them a Robot mode.

Their in your Upgrade page, Or have you looked there already?

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:04 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:
Caelus wrote:For now, don't use them on anything that you aren't willing to reset.

I think I found a bug. My guys lose their tactics when I give them a Robot mode.
Yeah. I can't duplicate your problem on my bots though Caelus. Anyone else seeing this problem?

After double checking, the tactic points are still there when I go back to the upgrade screen, but they don't appear in the character's profile screen.

I'll put Pratfall in a battle. If he Rams at all, we'll know it is just the display that is bugged.

Edit: And now he's displaying 3 Ram instead of 0 (what he was displaying) or 7 (what he should have)? So, that sort of screws up that experiment.

by **Knives** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:06 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:
Caelus wrote:For now, don't use them on anything that you aren't willing to reset.

I think I found a bug. My guys lose their tactics when I give them a Robot mode.
Yeah. I can't duplicate your problem on my bots though Caelus. Anyone else seeing this problem?

I do, but it appears that they only dissapear in the viewing page. I still see the tactics in the upgrade and team view pages. I have not tested whether or not they still work in missions/area or not yet.

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:06 pm

Caelus wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:
Caelus wrote:For now, don't use them on anything that you aren't willing to reset.

I think I found a bug. My guys lose their tactics when I give them a Robot mode.
Yeah. I can't duplicate your problem on my bots though Caelus. Anyone else seeing this problem?

After double checking, the tactic points are still there when I go back to the upgrade screen, but they don't appear in the character's profile screen.

I'll put Pratfall in a battle. If he Rams at all, we'll know it is just the display that is bugged.

See, even the mods neglect the Bugs thread from time to time.[/tease]

News Credits: 5 · by **Omega Sentinel** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:06 pm

Flashwave wrote:
Caelus wrote:For now, don't use them on anything that you aren't willing to reset.

I think I found a bug. My guys lose their tactics when I give them a Robot mode.

Their in your Upgrade page, Or have you looked there already?

It seems to be working fine as far as I can tell.

go to your upgrade page, select Metroplex (the only bot mode I have in the system right now) and you should be able to give him stats or leave him alone without it effecting anything else.

PS...Developing your bot mode's abilities will not affect your level. I won't say exactly what each bot mode enhances because you all can figure it out

by **Rat Convoy** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:06 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:
Caelus wrote:For now, don't use them on anything that you aren't willing to reset.

I think I found a bug. My guys lose their tactics when I give them a Robot mode.
Yeah. I can't duplicate your problem on my bots though Caelus. Anyone else seeing this problem?

I reported this on the bugs page. Apparantly the stats show up on the upgrade page and on the team view page as they're supposed to, but they are erroneous on the character view page.

And I just noticed that Optimus Prime's robot mode just reverted to the base mode with no ability, according to the character page. However, the total unspent XP still accounts for the points I bought for the robot ability.

Good thing Prime's alt is always available so I can just reset him if need be. Kinda why I chose him.

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:08 pm

Deadboy wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:
Caelus wrote:For now, don't use them on anything that you aren't willing to reset.

I think I found a bug. My guys lose their tactics when I give them a Robot mode.
Yeah. I can't duplicate your problem on my bots though Caelus. Anyone else seeing this problem?

I reported this on the bugs page. Apparantly the stats show up on the upgrade page and on the team view page as they're supposed to, but they are erroneous on the character view page.

And I just noticed that Optimus Prime's robot mode just reverted to the base mode with no ability, according to the character page. However, the total unspent XP still accounts for the points I bought for the robot ability.

Good thing Prime's alt is always available so I can just reset him if need be. Kinda why I chose him.

*kaff kaff*

flashwave wrote:There's 2. You click on metropplex, but it reverts back to the Protoform mode after a moment. And the bot ability goes away from the bio page, and you have to click on theirt bot mode in the upgrade for it to give you the stats.

I think it's that the Profile Page is bugged up. Anyone got a swatter? the preds are aty it again

by **Rat Convoy** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:10 pm

Yeah, I knew you pointed it out, Flashy.

Just thought I should report I hit a similar problem.

News Credits: 5 · by **Omega Sentinel** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:12 pm

Deadboy wrote:Yeah, I knew you pointed it out, Flashy. Just thought I should report I hit a similar problem.

Fixed that one bug and reset everyone's bot modes about 10 minutes ago. Your alt mode tactics should display correctly now and you should be able to do whatever you want with your bot mode.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:12 pm

Additional note; I'm also having the tactic-display problem on bots I haven't given robot modes.

News Credits: 5 · by **Omega Sentinel** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:13 pm

Caelus wrote:Additional note; I'm also having the tactic-display problem on bots I haven't given robot modes.

Check it now. Should be fixed.

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:15 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:
Caelus wrote:Additional note; I'm also having the tactic-display problem on bots I haven't given robot modes.
Check it now. Should be fixed.

I've got them.

EDIT: by resetting the bot modes, do you mean that mine doesn't have the points I just put in? Titan's in a mission right now, so I can't check.

News Credits: 5 · by **Omega Sentinel** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:20 pm

Flashwave wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:
Caelus wrote:Additional note; I'm also having the tactic-display problem on bots I haven't given robot modes.
Check it now. Should be fixed.

I've got them.

EDIT: by resetting the bot modes, do you mean that mine doesn't have the points I just put in? Titan's in a mission right now, but if he's been reset bot wise, 12,000

If he is back as a protoform just reset him and you should get your xp back.

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:22 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:
Flashwave wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:
Caelus wrote:Additional note; I'm also having the tactic-display problem on bots I haven't given robot modes.
Check it now. Should be fixed.

I've got them.

EDIT: by resetting the bot modes, do you mean that mine doesn't have the points I just put in? Titan's in a mission right now, but if he's been reset bot wise, 12,000
If he is back as a protoform just reset him and you should get your xp back.

Will check, in about an hour (mission+CR)

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:03 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:PS...Developing your bot mode's abilities will not affect your level.

Any particular reason why not?

This game started off with tactics not counting towards levels, and we saw the fun that produced.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:14 pm

Burn wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:PS...Developing your bot mode's abilities will not affect your level.

Any particular reason why not?

This game started off with tactics not counting towards levels, and we saw the fun that produced.

At the risk of giving away something OS doesn't want me to:

Because the bonus they provide is teensy, AFAIK.

I'll grant you that it's possible you could level bully with it though.

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:16 pm

Caelus wrote:
Burn wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:PS...Developing your bot mode's abilities will not affect your level.

Any particular reason why not?

This game started off with tactics not counting towards levels, and we saw the fun that produced.

At the risk of giving away something OS doesn't want me to:

Because the bonus they provide is teensy, AFAIK.

I'll grant you that it's possible you could level bully with it though.

Though honestly, people could level bully if you gave them a bar of soap and a toothpick.

by **Tammuz** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:18 pm

and if you can abuse something people will, we see it with the kremzeeks strafing your allies we saw it with enduring avoiders/repairers, more so now as "nothing really matters as it's all gonna reset anyway"

what's stoppong OS giving them the same boost to your level as they do to your power; teensy boost in power teency bit closer to the next level

News Credits: 3 · by **DISCHARGE** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:32 pm

Anybody know if the robot modes have the same effect for
everyone, or is it different depending on the characters alt mode?

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:34 pm

Caelus wrote:
Burn wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:PS...Developing your bot mode's abilities will not affect your level.

Any particular reason why not?

This game started off with tactics not counting towards levels, and we saw the fun that produced.

At the risk of giving away something OS doesn't want me to:

Because the bonus they provide is teensy, AFAIK.

I'll grant you that it's possible you could level bully with it though.

Much like the effect of mini-cons was suppose to be "teensy" and we've seen how they can be used for exploiting.

I just don't see why it can't count towards your level, because then we can move to level 12. It opens up even MORE levels. :grin:

-edit-
Gore just finished his first mission with his robot mode maxed out and aside from completely trashing The Fallen and his buddies there wasn't anything overly noticeable.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:34 pm

Burn wrote:Gore just finished his first mission with his robot mode maxed out and aside from completely trashing The Fallen and his buddies there wasn't anything overly noticeable.

Were you also using a Minicon?