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william-james88 wrote:Sigma Magnus wrote:Feel free to ask any of my opinions on specific stuff from the movie! I haven't seen it enough or had enough time to fully collect my thoughts.
Does the medallion and the Last Knight himself actually serve any kind of purpose towards the plot? Why would Megatron want the medalion if its not connected to the Staff? Isnt he looking for the staff?
Also, there are 2 versions of the film being shown right now, one where Nitro says "say hi to your wife for me" to the guards and another where he says "Enrique is sleeping with your wife". Which did you watch?
Sigma Magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sigma Magnus wrote:Feel free to ask any of my opinions on specific stuff from the movie! I haven't seen it enough or had enough time to fully collect my thoughts.
Does the medallion and the Last Knight himself actually serve any kind of purpose towards the plot? Why would Megatron want the medalion if its not connected to the Staff? Isnt he looking for the staff?
Also, there are 2 versions of the film being shown right now, one where Nitro says "say hi to your wife for me" to the guards and another where he says "Enrique is sleeping with your wife". Which did you watch?
As I said in the main thread, the Talisman was needed to get inside the underwater ship that contained the 12 Knights, Merlin, and the Staff.
And the version I saw was where Nitro said 'Say hi to your wife for me'.
PadForce wrote:I am SO disappointed with TLK after AoE which I thought was going in the right direction.
Edit: having re read my post its a big list of moans so I am just editing in at the top the positives:
Merlin
Hopkins
Unicron being earth - nice twist! Bit odd tho given the harvesting scene at start of AoE
RE the film:
It swung right back to humans vs transformers rather than TFs vs TFs.
Transformations... there were actually not that many, a huge number of the scene changes just suddenly show the bots already in car mode. Megatron is the only one you see transform in detail, twice I think.
Virtually no character development again for the cons because again they arnt the main badguys - Lockdown from AoE is imo how it should be done in terms of dialogue and screen time. In this film the cons have a shocking amount of screen time. Megatrons crew get picked out of prison are more or less immediately killed.
The inclusion of the combiner is decent but again, its made up of faceless cons we know nothing about. Faceless cons hark straight back to the armies of faceless cons in RoTF and DoTM which are part of the reason I dislike those films so strongly.
The young girl character and her sidekick were a complete irrelevance.. just cut them out of the film tbh.
The sidekick from the junkyard - another irrelevance. I cant explain properly how much it annoyed me seeing him come over to England for the final fight after he has contributed nothing and will literally just get in the way or die.
The (very - gawp) pretty English woman, again a complete waste, cut her out of the story and you lose very little. The mothers meeting scenes bring back bad memories of the Witwicky parents. Whilst I very much enjoyed looking at English lady's boobs, it just should not have been in the movie.
Talking about the witwickies - I liked the photo of Sam (even though I think he is a lot of what was wrong with 2 & 3) but the idea that he is a member of this secret society and his name coincidentally is the same as that of the society is unspeakably dumb. If it isnt coincidence then the society is a hereditary thing... in which case all the famous people are shown are related?? Also the line is supposed to be dead after Hopkins and English lady, but Sam and Hawkings are alive.
The history stuff was too much, the WW2 scene again was completely uneeded. Cut out this rubish and explain the Megatron reincarnation via Quintessa and suddenly the film is just that much more coherent. The annoying thing about this is I really liked the first 20 odd minutes, Merlin is genuinely amusing but you get so many throughout the film it really lessens the impact of the individual scenes.
TRF - yet another anti TF human squad, wow such innovative story telling.
Hot Rod apart from his weapon was so dull, he did virtually nothing in the film of worth outside of firing his gun.
I know a lot of things dont need explaining but stuff like the baby dinos really do need it, can TFs reproduce, can Marky Mark build them, what is happening there?
The dinobots then just dont fancy the trip to the UK apparently.
The casual swearing is really dumb, mainly because very little of it happens in the heat of action. Tag on a complaint about everyone calling everyone else "Dude".
Cheers,
PadForce
PadForce wrote:Oh right.. did they say that in the film? Still needs to be clear where they came from.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Why do people still refer to Mark Wahlberg as "Marky Mark?" Do these people think it's still 1991?
Rodimus Prime wrote:Why do people still refer to Mark Wahlberg as "Marky Mark?" Do these people think it's still 1991?
Nexus Knight wrote:TFwiki has actually started making a list of differences.
william-james88 wrote:Nexus Knight wrote:TFwiki has actually started making a list of differences.
Thanks! It super odd how they reffer to one as "finished" while it misses some lines that help the story, like explaining where Optimus is during the end battle.
Now I can't even know if my bitching about the movie makes sense to you guys since it turns out its the "unfinished" version I watched. I found it super odd and very amateurish of Michael Bay to have a shot of Sqweeks with his arm changing from that massive arm to his previous unbroken one from shot to shot. But now I am realizing that might be something none of you saw in the finished version.
This is super odd.
Rodimus Prime wrote:You can't make me disappear. I am not feet.
william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Why do people still refer to Mark Wahlberg as "Marky Mark?" Do these people think it's still 1991?
Because thats what they first knew him as. Just like I still call Dwayne Johnson "The Rock".
Burn wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Why do people still refer to Mark Wahlberg as "Marky Mark?" Do these people think it's still 1991?
Because thats what they first knew him as. Just like I still call Dwayne Johnson "The Rock".
But he still uses "The Rock" name, especially when he makes an appearance in WWE.
"Marky Mark" was a persona that Wahlberg put to bed full-time years ago. He's moved on. When people use it these days it comes across with a derogatory/insulting tone.
Insurgent wrote:
And does anyone else think Cogman being a headmaster was a twelth hour addition? He does nothing remotely like it in the film, and the only reference was a quick comment from Hopkins, off screen, while other dialogue was also going on. I get the impression Cogman was not meant to be a headmaster.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Nexus Knight wrote:That is rather strange. However, many of the points you probably made (sorry, don't remember every review) could still be valid. Would it be possible for you to go see the movie elsewhere and make an amended review?
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:- Topspin has Leadfoot's head, which is either an error or an unexplained headmaster thing.
- The decepticons weren't really scary, they were just (with the exception of Barricade and Megs) obnoxious. I was totally ok with them getting killed off.
- No Bumblebee v. Barricade rematch
Insurgent wrote:I have a question. If the TRF knew Cade had a thing we were looking for, why did they team up with the Decepticons to go after them? It's not like they had to go hunting for him, they knew where he was as they gave his position to Megatron. Surely it would have made more sense to send Lennox out there to talk to Cade, since Lennox has history with the AUtobots, he's met Cade and turning up with a couple of people just to talk would be a lot more reasonable to get what you want rather than turning up with a small squad of the guys who tried to destroy the planet a few times. And who would clearly just try to kill the lot of them. If it was Cemetery Wind, I could understand him hoping they would at least off a few of each other. But I don't understand why Lennox and Morshower went straight to the team up with Megatron idea.
william-james88 wrote:
About the leadfoot head, while it was odd, I didnt mind it and here is why: The Bayverse has made it clear that Transformers can have facial hair. We know some bots are older and some are younger and they share some similar traits to humans (usually for the sake of a joke) and I always felt the facial hair was one of those. So, since Topspin is in cuba, I thought they made the joke that he decided to relax and grow a beard. Either as a joke on castro, who is famous for a beard, or that of a guy who is in protection (like Denzel in Safe House), or just not needing to keep appearance anymore like David Letterman after retiring. Far fetched maybe, but it seems in line with the rest of the films.
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