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william-james88 wrote:Nexus Knight wrote:That is rather strange. However, many of the points you probably made (sorry, don't remember every review) could still be valid. Would it be possible for you to go see the movie elsewhere and make an amended review?
Well that would mean I would have to pay for it againKidding aside, I dont wish to watch this film again anytime soon. Also, since Paramount did send these unfinished version out to cinemas, it is only fair that I review what I saw since someone else may watch that very same version. What we could amend is to say that I watched a different version of the film, in the review, that could work.
Deadput wrote:Insurgent wrote:
And does anyone else think Cogman being a headmaster was a twelth hour addition? He does nothing remotely like it in the film, and the only reference was a quick comment from Hopkins, off screen, while other dialogue was also going on. I get the impression Cogman was not meant to be a headmaster.
Uhhh it wasn't a "late" edition at all it was cut from the movie first of all Bay's been talking about in his early interviews for the movie so it wasn't something made up at the last minute.
They filmed those scenes back in 2016 before the cgi stuff was finished they had plenty of time to put it in and it actually sounds like it was a last month change to not put his headmaster stuff in the film because Bay talked about how they couldn't finish it in time around a week before the movie came out.
Also both his and Nitro's toys were being designed presumably in 2016 because they don't engineer toys in a couple months.
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:william-james88 wrote:
About the leadfoot head, while it was odd, I didnt mind it and here is why: The Bayverse has made it clear that Transformers can have facial hair. We know some bots are older and some are younger and they share some similar traits to humans (usually for the sake of a joke) and I always felt the facial hair was one of those. So, since Topspin is in cuba, I thought they made the joke that he decided to relax and grow a beard. Either as a joke on castro, who is famous for a beard, or that of a guy who is in protection (like Denzel in Safe House), or just not needing to keep appearance anymore like David Letterman after retiring. Far fetched maybe, but it seems in line with the rest of the films.
Yeah, I suppose so. He did lose his mullet from DOTM though, maybe he got the look as a tribute to Leadfoot. Also, TFWiki says Roadbuster showed up in cuba with Topspin. I don't remember seeing that, can anyone verify that he was there?
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Insurgent wrote:I guess it wasn't the creators who seeded Earth with the transformium? Maybe? Perhaps?
The Fallen at least, it's never said he was a follower of Unicron. But if he was, maybe that's why he wanted to wipe out humanity from the get go? He saw us as infesting his master? And the Sun Harvester wouldn't have hurt earth physically, it would have just rendered it unable to sustain life, thus freeing Unicron from his slumber?
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:Insurgent wrote:I guess it wasn't the creators who seeded Earth with the transformium? Maybe? Perhaps?
The Fallen at least, it's never said he was a follower of Unicron. But if he was, maybe that's why he wanted to wipe out humanity from the get go? He saw us as infesting his master? And the Sun Harvester wouldn't have hurt earth physically, it would have just rendered it unable to sustain life, thus freeing Unicron from his slumber?
Just because the Fallen was a servant of Unicron in one universe doesn't mean the same here in fact I think it's more likely that he came under service to Quintessa (In a retcon of course!) plus The Fallen just wanted to destroy Earth outright but that's just from what I remember so correct me if I'm wrong
Insurgent wrote:And I thought Topspin did talk in DOTM. He was the scottish one.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
o.supreme wrote:where do I begin? I’m just not sure even how to react to this film
Sabrblade wrote:I have no idea what to even say about this movie.
Well, I knew I wanted to see it in IMAX 3D, but was pretty sure that that wouldn't be happening at PeteCon, so I went and saw it the day before PeteCon just to see it in IMAX 3D. After all, I'd seen the first four films in theaters more than once each time, so I was expecting myself to do the same with this one, but didn't count on just how mindless this one was gonna be compared to the others.o.supreme wrote:Anyway, I was going to ask why you saw it twice, but then I was reminded that I promised to take my son, so at some point I'll be seeing it again as well.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:because the sheer volume of "What is happening? Why is this happening? How did everything get to this point? Please explain
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
o.supreme wrote: The deadness inside I think is also a disturbing trend as we both felt it a bit.
o.supreme wrote:o.supreme wrote:where do I begin? I’m just not sure even how to react to this filmSabrblade wrote:I have no idea what to even say about this movie.
Disturbing trend...![]()
Anyway, I was going to ask why you saw it twice, but then I was reminded that I promised to take my son, so at some point I'll be seeing it again as well.
As for Revenge of the Fallen, I watched it again a few months back. If you remove Leo & The Twins, it is actually a pretty decent film...or I am just lowering the bar really really low heh...
Also I forgot to mention, I kept looking at my wife for reactions as she usually at least laughs at some of the humor...there was almost no reaction, except for at a few of Cogmans antics. The deadness inside I think is also a disturbing trend as we both felt it a bit.
Ghetto stereotypes offend a lot of people.Prowl4 wrote:I liked the twins. Surprised people don't like them I think they're funny and interesting.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Ghetto stereotypes offend a lot of people.Prowl4 wrote:I liked the twins. Surprised people don't like them I think they're funny and interesting.
Sabrblade wrote:According to this interview with Lorenzo di Bonaventura, Quintessa didn't mere assume a human form at the film's end, she originally was human!
Also, he briefly knocks on Beast Wars.![]()
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
The premise of who and what Quintessa is seems pretty straight forward throughout most of The Last Knight's story; however, the Transformers 5 post-credit scene throws a big twist about Quintessa's character into the mix.
Read on to see what Transformers movie producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura revealed about that the big twist in Quintessa's character - and the massive implications it could have for the franchise mythos, going forward.
When asked what significance the big reveal in The Last Knight's post-credit scene will have on the next Transformers movie, di Bonaventura had the following tease:
"You never know, that's part of what the discovery is gonna be. But actually, if you look at the mythology, the mythology of The Quintessa is that she very well and was probably human. So when you go back in time and go through that 6 billion years of mythology, there's certainly a current of thought within it that says she was a human character and perhaps was actually the first one who built the Transformers. So ironically, if that's accurate, then humans built Transformers."
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