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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The plus part of 15+, refers to all ages above that threshold. That's how rating systems work.
Also they are all toys, regardless of who they are aimed at.
I don't really get the point of this argument? It seems a very strange hill to die on.
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, I feel like a lot of people who speak in favor of translucent windows wouldn't do so as much if the original Diaclone molds had had opaque windows from the get-go instead.-Kanrabat- wrote:I may have an unpopular opinion, but all that clear plastics everywhere worries me. Especially so many JOINTS are clear. Plus that clear plastic painted red over just won't color match anything.
There should have been NO clear parts at all with the windows painted a kind of blue instead. It would have been even more "cartoon accurate" and it would have been more solid.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Looking at the video now. Wow, he's short. It he the shortest voyager we've got so far?
Razorbeast88 wrote:"Incorrect" *proceeds to explain the full picture, showing that both MPs and CHUG figures are aimed at older collectors*
william-james88 wrote:
So enjoy the screenshots from the review below and let us know what you think.
Sabrblade wrote:Unless Takara goes and makes a Premium Finish redeco.Gauntlet101010 wrote:This is the last Ironhide I'll ever get.![]()
Emerje wrote:I get that the engineering bumps him up to Voyager, but size is just too far out of scale. Even the previous deluxe figures weren't really the right height, but they were still pretty tall for the price class. I don't think I could be happy with any excuse anyone could imagine up for making him this small at this price point. I don't think expecting him to be the same size as Grapple is wanting too much, not when they've already cut so many corners by giving him just one accessory and completely hollowing out his hands.
Between Ironhide and Override I'm not at all happy with the direction Voyagers are taking, not when they keep giving us less and less and asking us to pay more and more. At least with Override you can say they'll probably only get one use out of the mold so they have to offset the cost, but we know that wont be true with Ironhide.
Emerje
-Kanrabat- wrote:I may have an unpopular opinion, but all that clear plastics everywhere worries me. Especially so many JOINTS are clear. Plus that clear plastic painted red over just won't color match anything.
There should have been NO clear parts at all with the windows painted a kind of blue instead. It would have been even more "cartoon accurate" and it would have been more solid.
ZeroWolf wrote:It's a difficult issue because of some folks complaints about the YouTubers ethics. This approach offered the best compromise so that we could still news these leaks and offer credit where credit was due.
If you want to watch his reviews check out the review forum where he posts them, along with all the other reviews from users like Lore Keeper, and ChuckDawg.
Now back to Ironhide please.
Sowndwave76 wrote:I think people need to pump the brakes in regards to the size, specifically the height of this new Ironhide...
I'm pretty sure it's not camera angle, figure pose/positioning, editing, etc., but what I'm seeing in the photo of the SS86 and ER versions side-by-side is that the ER version is MAYBE 1/4" taller at most, and probably closer to 1/8".
And yes, I said in a previous post that I would've liked him to have been a little bit taller. And by "a little", I literally meant by 1/2"-ish.
Whoever said this figure is as short or even close to the height of the Datsun bros...
Pshhhh.
I truly don't mean any offense by this, but stop and actually look at these images...
Or look on your own shelf/display and compare your Siege or ER Ironhide or Ratchet to one of the Datsun mold figures...
Saying any version (including this new one) of Ironhide (or Ratchet) is the same size as Smokescreen, Bluestreak, Prowl, etc., is absurd.
That's the same as trying to claim this new version is as tall as Inferno and Grapple.
It's also pretty bunk to compare this new Ironhide to Wreck-gar. Wreck-gar (while a legit voyager figure imo), is taller than he should be. Probably so other bots would fit better onto the cycle mode.
But Wreck-gar's figure is as tall as those of OP, Megatron, Blaster, Rodimus (or extremely close to), Cyclonus, and taller than Inferno, Grapple, Springer, and all of the ER seekers... I literally just confirmed this with my own figures.
I always thought he was the same size as Springer. But even if he's really supposed to be a bit bigger, there's no way he's supposed to be as tall as those first 5 I listed.
If anything, that photo just shows how out of scale Wreck-gar is, not that SS86 Ironhide is overly small.
Again, sure, I would've appreciated him being as tall as Hoist and Trailbreaker. But 1/4-1/2 of an inch shorter is "too short"?? No way.
It's not like he's been made the same height as Jazz or Sideswipe.
All this to say, in the grand scheme, I think the height is pretty on point.
Emerje wrote:15+ is just the Japanese way of designating something as being for collectors since typically a 15 year old isn't buying "toys" but is likely "mature" enough for some collectibles like Nendoroids which do say 15 and up on the box. Funny thing is I'm holding a Japanese copy of Studio Series Bumblebee Movie Cliffjumper in my hands right now and it says 5 and above right on the front of the box, as do just about every other Deluxe SS figure I'm looking at online, but oddly both Bee Movie Soundwave and Ravage say 8+ (for those that want to see for themselves it's the white box at the top with a number surrounded by Japanese characters).
Checking the Seibertron gallery the only Legends figures I can find with 15+ on them is Blitzwing, G2 Megatron (same mold) and Octane which I have to assume is an error because there's nothing particularly special about those three figures and Black Convoy (using the Octane mold) is 5+ like the rest of the line.
Emerje
ZeroWolf wrote:It's a difficult issue because of some folks complaints about the YouTubers ethics. This approach offered the best compromise so that we could still news these leaks and offer credit where credit was due.
If you want to watch his reviews check out the review forum where he posts them, along with all the other reviews from users like Lore Keeper, and ChuckDawg.
Now back to Ironhide please.
YoungPrime wrote:Meh, still not sold on it. Especially putting him next to Wreck-Garr and expecting the same price.
H3ll, I wasn't even sold on the ER version vs SIEGE Ironhide and now this for about $8-$10 bucks more???
NOPE! That transformation means nothing to me... He should've been taller. Not SS86 Wreck-Garr tall but still taller than that is currently. So I hope HasTak doesn't try to make more of a habit of these dwarf accessory-less "Voyager Class" figures.
EnergonHangover wrote:I still have my old G1 Ironhide and it's definitely one of those figures that needs a modern update! Since I've missed or been disinterested in all the recent Ironhides, I'll do my best to pick this one up. The color scheme, especially in vehicle mode, is a bit bland but that's nothing the inevitable third party sticker set can't fix.
primalxconvoy wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:It's a difficult issue because of some folks complaints about the YouTubers ethics. This approach offered the best compromise so that we could still news these leaks and offer credit where credit was due.
If you want to watch his reviews check out the review forum where he posts them, along with all the other reviews from users like Lore Keeper, and ChuckDawg.
Now back to Ironhide please.
I don't want to dwell on this topic, but is that as close to an official stance on the matter when Seibertron reports such material at the front page? I'm going to add a link from these comments (and screenshots) at the thread about "stolen" TFs for future reference. Also, my original comment was simply giving credit where it was due. There's no point always criticising a website, especially when it's performed due diligence or met different people half-way.
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