The Energon Pub

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:Ty I'll relay that there.

Better let Target know too that they're advertising possibly illegal material.

Heh, that is on them

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:Ty I'll relay that there.

Better let Target know too that they're advertising possibly illegal material.

Heh, that is on them

Can't trust Hasbro with that, they showed a "3P" Devastator on one of their promotional presentations

What's funny about that Swoop is that people were discussing it on TFW with comments like this:

Details like the ball joint elbows and the half empty thighs seem MUCH more like a real Hasbro toy with a budget than something from a 3rd party.

People talk about elitism when discussing some fans going 3rd party over hasbro and comments like that don't help.

I’m really excited about the news of Frenzy, Brawn, & Ratchet!!

Even though I’m really focused on getting Snarl, Swoop, Shrapnel, & Bombshell, picking up these guys along the way will be niiiice.

Have to eat my words a little bit.

I picked up SS86 Spike the other day, on clearance for $10AUD down from the usual $19AUD. $10 I could stomach, $19? Hell no.

Given that it is what it is, he's better than what I expected. Sure, transformation is ... well it's barely a transformation, and I see that with adult eyes even though as a 10 year old I thought the exosuit was pretty damn cool.

Back into his ummm ... upright mode? Poseability is limited but otherwise you can get a couple of good poses out of him. Adding a little nub to turn his head was a neat little touch that I wasn't expecting in such a small figure.

As a clearance item? Worth it. Full priced? Not so much.

It's funny that HasTak put a line on the sand with [blue] '86 Rumble. But still refused to do the exact same thing with Kingdom Cyclonus.

So I picked up Starscream, Gamestop had him on the clearance shelf, which is all half off the clearance price right now, so I got him for $24. He's OK. I like the coronation accessories enough, but I'm just meh on him overall.

His throne is nice though. Jhiaxus will be using it from here on out though.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:So I picked up Starscream, Gamestop had him on the clearance shelf, which is all half off the clearance price right now, so I got him for $24.

I was in there yesterday looking for Tarantulas, and saw Screamer and Dragstrip on the clearance shelf, but Screamer was labeled at $48! So I didn't get him. Now I'll have to go back...

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It's funny that HasTak put a line on the sand with [blue] '86 Rumble. But still refused to do the exact same thing with Kingdom Cyclonus.

How is it a line in the sand? Rumble was always blue in the cartoon, and he was always red in the 1984 toys. It's never been in doubt.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:So I picked up Starscream, Gamestop had him on the clearance shelf, which is all half off the clearance price right now, so I got him for $24.

I was in there yesterday looking for Tarantulas, and saw Screamer and Dragstrip on the clearance shelf, but Screamer was labeled at $48! So I didn't get him. Now I'll have to go back...

Yep, Anything you see with a clearance tag in Gamestop right now is an additional half off.

Rtron wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It's funny that HasTak put a line on the sand with [blue] '86 Rumble. But still refused to do the exact same thing with Kingdom Cyclonus.

How is it a line in the sand? Rumble was always blue in the cartoon, and he was always red in the 1984 toys. It's never been in doubt.

Exactly that. In The Movie, both in onscreen visual composition (identical layout to Scourge's sequence), audio narrative and even Movie Storyboards. All state Bombshell becomes Cyclonus.


^Note, main character is always in the foreground.

Yet for whatever reason, HasTak won't outright state the other assertion is wrong. Choosing a fence-sitting middle ground instead.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Rtron wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It's funny that HasTak put a line on the sand with [blue] '86 Rumble. But still refused to do the exact same thing with Kingdom Cyclonus.

How is it a line in the sand? Rumble was always blue in the cartoon, and he was always red in the 1984 toys. It's never been in doubt.

Exactly that. In The Movie, both in onscreen visual composition (identical layout to Scourge's sequence), audio narrative and even Movie Storyboards. All state Bombshell becomes Cyclonus.


^Note, main character is always in the foreground.

Yet for whatever reason, HasTak won't outright state the other assertion is wrong. Choosing a fence-sitting middle ground instead.

Half the time Cyclonus is a guy who didn't come from anyone. Why should they bother at all? Also, I've always said those guys were dead, so who cares where they came from?

sol magnus wrote:so who cares where they came from?

That's the point:

Cyclonus Kingdom Bio wrote:Cyclonus, a Herald of Unicron, first appears in the 1986 movie when Bombshell/Skywarp/both/neither was reformatted into the second-in-command of Galvatron.

The highlighted is completely unnecessary. HasTak, It's been 36 years! Pick one and move on.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

sol magnus wrote:so who cares where they came from?

That's the point:

Cyclonus Kingdom Bio wrote:Cyclonus, a Herald of Unicron, first appears in the 1986 movie when Bombshell/Skywarp/both/neither was reformatted into the second-in-command of Galvatron.

The highlighted is completely unnecessary. HasTak, It's been 36 years! Pick one and move on.

I remember that. Again, instead of dismissing it. They poke the fire instead...

I think they poke fun at it because they don't care. They probably see it as thar quaint mystery no one is serious about as an answer changes nothing (unlike blue rumble where it was a case of what took precedence, cartoon or toys/comics)

ZeroWolf wrote:I think they poke fun at it because they don't care. They probably see it as thar quaint mystery no one is serious about as an answer changes nothing (unlike blue rumble where it was a case of what took precedence, cartoon or toys/comics)

And like FIRRIB vs. RIRFIB, various different fictions pick different sides on the matter.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think they poke fun at it because they don't care. They probably see it as thar quaint mystery no one is serious about as an answer changes nothing (unlike blue rumble where it was a case of what took precedence, cartoon or toys/comics)

And like FIRRIB vs. RIRFIB, various different fictions pick different sides on the matter.

To wit -

ZeroWolf wrote:I think they poke fun at it because they don't care. They probably see it as thar quaint mystery no one is serious about as an answer changes nothing (unlike blue rumble where it was a case of what took precedence, cartoon or toys/comics)

Ultimately, it is the exact same thing as the whole Star Wars "Han shot first" bit. The Movie shows exactly what happened (pre-Lucas adjustment) and some people choose to ignore it and think the sky is green. Until some twit comes along and adds merit to the claim.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think they poke fun at it because they don't care. They probably see it as thar quaint mystery no one is serious about as an answer changes nothing (unlike blue rumble where it was a case of what took precedence, cartoon or toys/comics)

And like FIRRIB vs. RIRFIB, various different fictions pick different sides on the matter.

And nobody should be serious about that as that would take the fun out of the hobby.

Is it even a real contentious debate anymore? I know it was in the early fandom, but it's been a long time.

I don't mind that they don't give a real answer. Only the Galvatron's former identity mattered to the story.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Is it even a real contentious debate anymore? I know it was in the early fandom, but it's been a long time.

I don't mind that they don't give a real answer. Only the Galvatron's former identity mattered to the story.

Depends on who you ask... I actually like it when companies are... coy with such matters and leave it to the imagination of the fans (for better or for worse). Like Serges in Mega Man X2

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Is it even a real contentious debate anymore? I know it was in the early fandom, but it's been a long time.

I don't mind that they don't give a real answer. Only the Galvatron's former identity mattered to the story.

People do still argue it to this day. It's just not as heated as it was in the early days.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:So I picked up Starscream, Gamestop had him on the clearance shelf, which is all half off the clearance price right now, so I got him for $24. He's OK. I like the coronation accessories enough, but I'm just meh on him overall.

His throne is nice though. Jhiaxus will be using it from here on out though.

The more I see it, the more I think the throne was meant for other figures to use more than Starscream.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The more I see it, the more I think the throne was meant for other figures to use more than Starscream.

There is no doubt in my mind this throne came with Starscream only for the price point. It was never meant for him