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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Cyber Bishop » Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:30 pm

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Cyber Bishop wrote:Ty I'll relay that there.


Better let Target know too that they're advertising possibly illegal material. :lol:


Heh, that is on them :-P
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:33 pm

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Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Cyber Bishop wrote:Ty I'll relay that there.


Better let Target know too that they're advertising possibly illegal material. :lol:


Heh, that is on them :-P


Can't trust Hasbro with that, they showed a "3P" Devastator on one of their promotional presentations
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:55 pm

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What's funny about that Swoop is that people were discussing it on TFW with comments like this:

Details like the ball joint elbows and the half empty thighs seem MUCH more like a real Hasbro toy with a budget than something from a 3rd party.


People talk about elitism when discussing some fans going 3rd party over hasbro and comments like that don't help.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Burn » Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:45 am

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Have to eat my words a little bit.

I picked up SS86 Spike the other day, on clearance for $10AUD down from the usual $19AUD. $10 I could stomach, $19? Hell no.

Given that it is what it is, he's better than what I expected. Sure, transformation is ... well it's barely a transformation, and I see that with adult eyes even though as a 10 year old I thought the exosuit was pretty damn cool.

Back into his ummm ... upright mode? Poseability is limited but otherwise you can get a couple of good poses out of him. Adding a little nub to turn his head was a neat little touch that I wasn't expecting in such a small figure.

As a clearance item? Worth it. Full priced? Not so much.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:19 am

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It's funny that HasTak put a line on the sand with [blue] '86 Rumble. But still refused to do the exact same thing with Kingdom Cyclonus. >:oP
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:52 pm

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So I picked up Starscream, Gamestop had him on the clearance shelf, which is all half off the clearance price right now, so I got him for $24. He's OK. I like the coronation accessories enough, but I'm just meh on him overall.

His throne is nice though. Jhiaxus will be using it from here on out though.

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:30 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:So I picked up Starscream, Gamestop had him on the clearance shelf, which is all half off the clearance price right now, so I got him for $24.
:shock: :shock: :shock:

I was in there yesterday looking for Tarantulas, and saw Screamer and Dragstrip on the clearance shelf, but Screamer was labeled at $48! So I didn't get him. Now I'll have to go back...
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Rtron » Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:47 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It's funny that HasTak put a line on the sand with [blue] '86 Rumble. But still refused to do the exact same thing with Kingdom Cyclonus. >:oP


How is it a line in the sand? Rumble was always blue in the cartoon, and he was always red in the 1984 toys. It's never been in doubt.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:45 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:So I picked up Starscream, Gamestop had him on the clearance shelf, which is all half off the clearance price right now, so I got him for $24.
:shock: :shock: :shock:

I was in there yesterday looking for Tarantulas, and saw Screamer and Dragstrip on the clearance shelf, but Screamer was labeled at $48! So I didn't get him. Now I'll have to go back...

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:04 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It's funny that HasTak put a line on the sand with [blue] '86 Rumble. But still refused to do the exact same thing with Kingdom Cyclonus. >:oP


How is it a line in the sand? Rumble was always blue in the cartoon, and he was always red in the 1984 toys. It's never been in doubt.


Exactly that. In The Movie, both in onscreen visual composition (identical layout to Scourge's sequence), audio narrative and even Movie Storyboards. All state Bombshell becomes Cyclonus.

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Yet for whatever reason, HasTak won't outright state the other assertion is wrong. Choosing a fence-sitting middle ground instead.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby sol magnus » Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:21 am

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Rtron wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It's funny that HasTak put a line on the sand with [blue] '86 Rumble. But still refused to do the exact same thing with Kingdom Cyclonus. >:oP


How is it a line in the sand? Rumble was always blue in the cartoon, and he was always red in the 1984 toys. It's never been in doubt.


Exactly that. In The Movie, both in onscreen visual composition (identical layout to Scourge's sequence), audio narrative and even Movie Storyboards. All state Bombshell becomes Cyclonus.

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^Note, main character is always in the foreground.

Yet for whatever reason, HasTak won't outright state the other assertion is wrong. Choosing a fence-sitting middle ground instead.

Half the time Cyclonus is a guy who didn't come from anyone. Why should they bother at all? Also, I've always said those guys were dead, so who cares where they came from?
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:25 am

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sol magnus wrote:so who cares where they came from?


That's the point:

Cyclonus Kingdom Bio wrote:Cyclonus, a Herald of Unicron, first appears in the 1986 movie when Bombshell/Skywarp/both/neither was reformatted into the second-in-command of Galvatron.


The highlighted is completely unnecessary. HasTak, It's been 36 years! Pick one and move on.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:36 am

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sol magnus wrote:so who cares where they came from?


That's the point:

Cyclonus Kingdom Bio wrote:Cyclonus, a Herald of Unicron, first appears in the 1986 movie when Bombshell/Skywarp/both/neither was reformatted into the second-in-command of Galvatron.


The highlighted is completely unnecessary. HasTak, It's been 36 years! Pick one and move on.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:39 am

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I remember that. Again, instead of dismissing it. They poke the fire instead...
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:32 am

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I think they poke fun at it because they don't care. They probably see it as thar quaint mystery no one is serious about as an answer changes nothing (unlike blue rumble where it was a case of what took precedence, cartoon or toys/comics)
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:41 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:I think they poke fun at it because they don't care. They probably see it as thar quaint mystery no one is serious about as an answer changes nothing (unlike blue rumble where it was a case of what took precedence, cartoon or toys/comics)
And like FIRRIB vs. RIRFIB, various different fictions pick different sides on the matter.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby sol magnus » Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:43 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:I think they poke fun at it because they don't care. They probably see it as thar quaint mystery no one is serious about as an answer changes nothing (unlike blue rumble where it was a case of what took precedence, cartoon or toys/comics)
And like FIRRIB vs. RIRFIB, various different fictions pick different sides on the matter.

To wit -

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:38 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:I think they poke fun at it because they don't care. They probably see it as thar quaint mystery no one is serious about as an answer changes nothing (unlike blue rumble where it was a case of what took precedence, cartoon or toys/comics)


Ultimately, it is the exact same thing as the whole Star Wars "Han shot first" bit. The Movie shows exactly what happened (pre-Lucas adjustment) and some people choose to ignore it and think the sky is green. Until some twit comes along and adds merit to the claim.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:10 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:I think they poke fun at it because they don't care. They probably see it as thar quaint mystery no one is serious about as an answer changes nothing (unlike blue rumble where it was a case of what took precedence, cartoon or toys/comics)
And like FIRRIB vs. RIRFIB, various different fictions pick different sides on the matter.


And nobody should be serious about that as that would take the fun out of the hobby. >:oP
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:06 am

Is it even a real contentious debate anymore? I know it was in the early fandom, but it's been a long time.

I don't mind that they don't give a real answer. Only the Galvatron's former identity mattered to the story.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:10 am

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Gauntlet101010 wrote:Is it even a real contentious debate anymore? I know it was in the early fandom, but it's been a long time.

I don't mind that they don't give a real answer. Only the Galvatron's former identity mattered to the story.


Depends on who you ask... I actually like it when companies are... coy with such matters and leave it to the imagination of the fans (for better or for worse). Like Serges in Mega Man X2 :lol:
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:13 am

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Gauntlet101010 wrote:Is it even a real contentious debate anymore? I know it was in the early fandom, but it's been a long time.

I don't mind that they don't give a real answer. Only the Galvatron's former identity mattered to the story.
People do still argue it to this day. It's just not as heated as it was in the early days.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:15 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:So I picked up Starscream, Gamestop had him on the clearance shelf, which is all half off the clearance price right now, so I got him for $24. He's OK. I like the coronation accessories enough, but I'm just meh on him overall.

His throne is nice though. Jhiaxus will be using it from here on out though.

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The more I see it, the more I think the throne was meant for other figures to use more than Starscream.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:27 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:The more I see it, the more I think the throne was meant for other figures to use more than Starscream.

There is no doubt in my mind this throne came with Starscream only for the price point. It was never meant for him
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