william-james88 wrote:That person was me. You stated those were errors on Target's behalf with 0 proof of such. And you have 0 proof that it isn't average either, yet you talk like you've gone to all Targets in the US. We cant talk in absolutes. What we know us that those endcaps with a bunch of grindors and Slugs were reported across the US. They were not errors (they couldn't be, Endcaps are Prime real estate, mistakes and surplus are sent to market six stores instead of going on shelves). And they all sold, well past after collectors had bought theirs months ago, proving that a bunch were produced to satisfy demand that was not coming from collectors. That was my point and it was confirmed by Hasbro when I personally asked them about the Target audience for these toys .
I’ve never talked like I’ve been to every Target in the U.S., and I never needed to.
What I’m saying is there is no way that was the average stock of those figures for Target stores.
In this context, average means at least 1 of every 2 stores.
Because 1/3 would mean 33 out of every 100. Which at least in my opinion, isn’t average.
“Reported across the U.S.”…
I mean come on, how many board members even saw those overflowing endcaps?
Even if this had been reported from 12 people who live in 12 different cities in 12 different states…
That still wouldn’t justify this being average or the norm.
You’re actually the one trying to talk in absolutes.
What’s laughable is that what you’re proposing is substantially less realistic than what I’m proposing.
It’s like me trying to tell whoever never saw the seeker 2 pack at Target, “Well, you’re wrong. My Target had at least 12 stocked over the span of a couple months. Yours must have as well; you were just totally unlucky and missed them all”.
It’s not wrong to say they may have missed them, but to say the store they checked had 12 on shelves, because “All Targets were well-stocked with those 2 packs”… That is wrong.
My Target never stocked 12 Slags total… Let alone at once, or on an endcap.
And I do know this was the case for my local Target.
I’d also like you to explain how Target figures out what the demand is for a specific toy… Especially before the toy is released.
Because according to what you’re saying, the same Target stores that stocked 15-ish Slags on an endcap, have surely stocked 15+ Sludges on an endcap.
Unless Target also somehow managed to survey all non-collector consumers, & figured out that Slag is just that popular of a character, and much more popular than Sludge…
But because the majority of sales are from non-collecting buyers, that specific doesn’t apply.
william-james88 wrote:Now that you bring it up, you said the SS Coronation screamers in your area would never sell since collectors didn't want them. So, it's past the holiday season now, past the point where parents buy toys for their kids. Are those exact Coronation statscreams still at your Target?
I never said those figures would never sell.
That was never the point I was making.
But I’m not going back into that.
And of course some of those figures have sold, especially leading up to Christmas when people are more likely to make less informed, last-minute purchases.
On the 22nd, there were 4 Coronation Starscreams, 3 Galvatrons, & 2 SS86 Ironhides.
Very few figures on the pegs. But again, that doesn’t prove anything.
Lots of aisles in the toy department were more picked over than I’ve ever seen at this Target, even during past Christmas seasons.
You’re overstatements and exaggerations don’t prove your points, nor do they prove mine wrong.
But back to the point, please give some evidence of how distribution to Target stores is based on demand, specific to individual toys.
If there is some survey or feedback I can submit to my local Target, I will; I want to get in on that so this store starts getting more figures that I want over the next couple years.
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