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Cyberpath wrote:The remaining Autobots (up to Rebirth/Headmasters); felt like seeing who's left. Naturally not everyone will be made.

What's Grimlock doing in there? Granted, we do need a new one that fits the modern MP scale better.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:An MP Jetfire could go one of two ways:

1) Bandai will have a hissy-fit and stop its development.
2) It will be based on the cartoon Skyfire design

Considering the current design trend towards cartoon likenesses, Skyfire seems like a safe bet. I would be more than happy to buy a Skyfire that stood at the upper heights of the MP sizes like Star Saber.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:The remaining Autobots (up to Rebirth/Headmasters); felt like seeing who's left. Naturally not everyone will be made.

What's Grimlock doing in there? Granted, we do need a new one that fits the modern MP scale better.

He is the only pre- MP-10 Masterpiece to not have a remake so far. I'd personally be expecting to see one sometime soon - heck, the upcoming movie has him, sometime in the next year would not be a bad time.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:I heard that an MP Jetfire is in the works

You might just be hearing about the coming Fanstoys Phenix.

An MP Jetfire could go one of two ways:

1) Bandai will have a hissy-fit and stop its development.
2) It will be based on the cartoon Skyfire design

Why wouldn't it automatically be Option 2?

And wouldn't it be Harmony Gold, rather than Bandai, who'd throw the hissy fit since it was Harmony Gold who threw it the last few?

Yeah, this was my thought as well.

If you want an updated toy design for Jetfire, just track down an Arcadia/Yamato V2 1/60 scale Macross VF-1S Super Valkyrie, try for the Hikaru DYRL version.

If it's an cartoon version, yeah, I can see Takara doing one, but there us simply no way in hell they'll be able to top Fanstoys.

Sabrblade wrote:And wouldn't it be Harmony Gold, rather than Bandai, who'd throw the hissy fit since it was Harmony Gold who threw it the last few?

Harmony Gold can't touch Japanese products, that would be entirely up to Bandai. Now if Hasbro wanted to release such a thing over here, then yeah, Harmony Gold would probably pull them back into court. Hasbro should just do us all a favor and buy Harmony Gold, the world would be a much better place. And I'm not just saying that as a Transformers fan, the company is super shady along with their founder. Probably shouldn't be a surprise that HG is mainly a real estate investment developer now.

Emerje

And the remaining Decepticons. (till Headmasters.)



Combiners seem unlikely. UW04 Devastator and LG43 Trypticon work.

The Combiner Teams, especially the Scramble City ones, may have another obstacle: licensing. Would it be necessary to get licenses for 20 vehicles at most, depending on the realism of the original G1 toys? I can already give you:

Aerialbots
BAC Concorde
Lockheed Martin / General Dyanmics F-16 Fighting Falcon
McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle
McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom
British Aerospace Sea Harrier

Stunticons
Kenworth K100
Tyrell P34
Porsche 928
Lamborghini Countach
Ferrari 308 GTB

Especially Ferrari and Porsche will be a nightmare.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The Combiner Teams, especially the Scramble City ones, may have another obstacle: licensing. Would it be necessary to get licenses for 20 vehicles at most, depending on the realism of the original G1 toys? I can already give you:

Aerialbots
BAC Concorde
Lockheed Martin / General Dyanmics F-16 Fighting Falcon
McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle
McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom
British Aerospace Sea Harrier

Stunticons
Kenworth K100
Tyrell P34
Porsche 928
Lamborghini Countach
Ferrari 308 GTB

Especially Ferrari and Porsche will be a nightmare.

Reality sucks

Kurona wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:The remaining Autobots (up to Rebirth/Headmasters); felt like seeing who's left. Naturally not everyone will be made.

What's Grimlock doing in there? Granted, we do need a new one that fits the modern MP scale better.

He is the only pre- MP-10 Masterpiece to not have a remake so far. I'd personally be expecting to see one sometime soon - heck, the upcoming movie has him, sometime in the next year would not be a bad time.

Though MP Grimlock is almost perfect but if I'd remake him, I'd squeeze his robot head a bit. The original's is slightly too stretched.

fenrir72 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:The remaining Autobots (up to Rebirth/Headmasters); felt like seeing who's left. Naturally not everyone will be made.

What's Grimlock doing in there? Granted, we do need a new one that fits the modern MP scale better.

He is the only pre- MP-10 Masterpiece to not have a remake so far. I'd personally be expecting to see one sometime soon - heck, the upcoming movie has him, sometime in the next year would not be a bad time.

Though MP Grimlock is almost perfect but if I'd remake him, I'd squeeze his robot head a bit. The original's is slightly too stretched.

he isnt perfect.

Bumblebee21 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:The remaining Autobots (up to Rebirth/Headmasters); felt like seeing who's left. Naturally not everyone will be made.

What's Grimlock doing in there? Granted, we do need a new one that fits the modern MP scale better.

He is the only pre- MP-10 Masterpiece to not have a remake so far. I'd personally be expecting to see one sometime soon - heck, the upcoming movie has him, sometime in the next year would not be a bad time.

Though MP Grimlock is almost perfect but if I'd remake him, I'd squeeze his robot head a bit. The original's is slightly too stretched.

he isnt perfect.

There's a difference between almost perfect and perfect

Cyberpath wrote:The remaining Autobots (up to Rebirth/Headmasters); felt like seeing who's left. Naturally not everyone will be made.

I would guess that Jazz is probably the most wanted?

I don't think I have space for more, but an MP Hoist would sure go well with MP Grapple and UW Devastator.

You missed Optimus' gal Elita-1!

fenrir72 wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:The remaining Autobots (up to Rebirth/Headmasters); felt like seeing who's left. Naturally not everyone will be made.

What's Grimlock doing in there? Granted, we do need a new one that fits the modern MP scale better.

He is the only pre- MP-10 Masterpiece to not have a remake so far. I'd personally be expecting to see one sometime soon - heck, the upcoming movie has him, sometime in the next year would not be a bad time.

Though MP Grimlock is almost perfect but if I'd remake him, I'd squeeze his robot head a bit. The original's is slightly too stretched.

he isnt perfect.

There's a difference between almost perfect and perfect

he isnt almost perfect either

there is a repaint coming out and its rumored to be black ironhide

Blitzwing and Astrotrain seem pretty likely (though they'd need some pretty killer design and engineering to correctly pull off Triple Changing - I think MPs haven't done that before), as does the good ol' Galvy crew. Octane and the Battlechargers seem a bit too off the beaten track though, and I'm not sure about Reflector and the Insecticons unless they were pretty small and hence attracting a smaller price.

I think we can all agree we're not gonna see Masterpiece Combiners or Titans any time soon. At best we get Titan Devastator-style redos of Menasor and Bruticus which both seem rather unlikely - anyone wanting these dudes will have to stick with UW.
That said I do kind of hold to the opinion that if we're to get any Combiner participant in MP, it'll be Swindle. He's far more popular than any other Combiner piece and he's a pretty memorable dude. Moreso than Runabout at least

Bumblebee21 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:The remaining Autobots (up to Rebirth/Headmasters); felt like seeing who's left. Naturally not everyone will be made.

What's Grimlock doing in there? Granted, we do need a new one that fits the modern MP scale better.

He is the only pre- MP-10 Masterpiece to not have a remake so far. I'd personally be expecting to see one sometime soon - heck, the upcoming movie has him, sometime in the next year would not be a bad time.

Though MP Grimlock is almost perfect but if I'd remake him, I'd squeeze his robot head a bit. The original's is slightly too stretched.

he isnt perfect.

There's a difference between almost perfect and perfect

he isnt almost perfect either

there is a repaint coming out and its rumored to be black ironhide

That's a very "subjective" view of yours. Not all people share the same views. I'd leave it at that.

fenrir72 wrote:MP Grimlock is almost perfect

fenrir72 wrote:That's a very "subjective" view of yours. Not all people share the same views. I'd leave it at that.

Kurona wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:MP Grimlock is almost perfect

fenrir72 wrote:That's a very "subjective" view of yours. Not all people share the same views. I'd leave it at that.

And? I did not go to a specific poster to insist my own very subjective point of view. So what's the quote for?

Hasui said that he had designs for an MP Devastator that never happened, so he used some of it in the CW set. UW04 Devastator fits very nicely with the line.

fenrir72 wrote:You missed Optimus' gal Elita-1!

I didn't forget her or Devcon, they weren't regulars on the show nor had a toy. But anything's possible, Takara can make whoever they like.

Cyberpath wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:You missed Optimus' gal Elita-1!

I didn't forget her or Devcon, they weren't regulars on the show nor had a toy. But anything's possible, Takara can make whoever they like.


Hasui said that he had designs for an MP Devastator that never happened, so he used some of it in the CW set. UW04 Devastator fits very nicely with the line.

All the ladies are getting the toy treatment(even Arcee got a lazy repaint in the Binaltech series but no Elita ) except her

fenrir72 wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:You missed Optimus' gal Elita-1!

I didn't forget her or Devcon, they weren't regulars on the show nor had a toy. But anything's possible, Takara can make whoever they like.


Hasui said that he had designs for an MP Devastator that never happened, so he used some of it in the CW set. UW04 Devastator fits very nicely with the line.

All the ladies are getting the toy treatment(even Arcee got a lazy repaint in the Binaltech series but no Elita ) except her

We've never seen Elita's entire cartoon altmode, so it'd be pretty hard to have a toy made of her that transforms into something that was only ever 50% visible.

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:You missed Optimus' gal Elita-1!

I didn't forget her or Devcon, they weren't regulars on the show nor had a toy. But anything's possible, Takara can make whoever they like.


Hasui said that he had designs for an MP Devastator that never happened, so he used some of it in the CW set. UW04 Devastator fits very nicely with the line.

All the ladies are getting the toy treatment(even Arcee got a lazy repaint in the Binaltech series but no Elita ) except her

We've never seen Elita's entire cartoon altmode, so it'd be pretty hard to have a toy made of her that transforms into something that was only ever 50% visible.

And we never saw the entire back of MP Grapple yet Takara did the "impossible". We rarely took noticed of UMs butt flap and red bumper yet Takara "transformed" them into reality! They retooled the Arcee mold into Chromia who had a boxy mode which they converted into a cycle. Arcee herself was the product of the impossible a few years back. MegaEmpress, who'd have thought Takara would have repurposed her? Etc etc

It's like saying making a cartoon accurate Godginrai is impossible

fenrir72 wrote:And we never saw the entire back of MP Grapple yet Takara did the "impossible".

What? Grapple's back was visible in the cartoon. In both modes:




So Takara had something to work with in making the backsides of Grapple's MP. But the backside of Elita's vehicle mode, however, was never seen.

fenrir72 wrote:We rarely took noticed of UMs butt flap and red bumper yet Takara "transformed" them into reality!

Whether WE noticed those or not is irrelevant since that butt flap and red bumper were both visible onscreen.




The backside of Elita's altmode, however, was not.

fenrir72 wrote:They retooled the Arcee mold into Chromia who had a boxy mode which they converted into a cycle.

Again, this also irrelevant since that Chromia toy wasn't trying to replicate her exact cartoon design, which is what the MPs now do.

fenrir72 wrote:Arcee herself was the product of the impossible a few years back. MegaEmpress, who'd have thought Takara would have repurposed her? Etc etc

I really don't think you understood what I was saying.

fenrir72 wrote:It's like saying making a cartoon accurate Godginrai is impossible

Dude, seriously? God Ginrai was seen from all angles. Elita's vehicle mode wasn't.

fenrir72 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:MP Grimlock is almost perfect

fenrir72 wrote:That's a very "subjective" view of yours. Not all people share the same views. I'd leave it at that.

And? I did not go to a specific poster to insist my own very subjective point of view. So what's the quote for?

The post simply seemed to concern the assertiveness of one's opinion as fact - and not the other problem you had that you replied to me with - which seemed hypocritical at the time. However, my post was a bit too snarky and passive-aggressive in tone than it should have been, so for that I apologise.

OK folks, random sidebar in this convo.
Doesn't Jim Sorenson's ,"The Ark" the complete edition, have all of the character models for each character in the G1 series?
Its been a while since I looked at my copy but i remember it being pretty comprehensive for what it was.

triKlops wrote:OK folks, random sidebar in this convo.
Doesn't Jim Sorenson's ,"The Ark" the complete edition, have all of the character models for each character in the G1 series?
Its been a while since I looked at my copy but i remember it being pretty comprehensive for what it was.

Not for the Female Autobots. Those have yet to surface.

Sabrblade wrote:

triKlops wrote:OK folks, random sidebar in this convo.
Doesn't Jim Sorenson's ,"The Ark" the complete edition, have all of the character models for each character in the G1 series?
Its been a while since I looked at my copy but i remember it being pretty comprehensive for what it was.

Not for the Female Autobots. Those have yet to surface.

Some of them showed up on eBay.