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Desslok2201 wrote:I totally understand your dilemma. I think what sways me towards Takara on this is the little details. The painted kneecaps, wingtips on the shoulders, etc. Superion's combined form is a hands down winner to Takara for me, but if you take Silverbolt alone, it's just the little bits that push him over, as I agree that Hasbro's is closer on that one.
Stryfe Convoy wrote:Do you have to buy this as a set? Why not buy the Hasbro versions of the others, then buy Slingshot separately? Would it be more expensive or less expensive that way? Questions...
I know bigbadtoystore is selling them for $130 as a set. I'm just not sure what the individual prices are, and I apologize if I missed them earlier in the thread.
Either way, that would be petty cool to have all 5 Aerialbots, instead of 4 Aerialbots and a helicopter....
william-james88 wrote:Desslok2201 wrote:I totally understand your dilemma. I think what sways me towards Takara on this is the little details. The painted kneecaps, wingtips on the shoulders, etc. Superion's combined form is a hands down winner to Takara for me, but if you take Silverbolt alone, it's just the little bits that push him over, as I agree that Hasbro's is closer on that one.
Thanks man, and yes, that is exactly my dilemma. Takara Superion is no question he better one. BUT I really preffer Hasbro's Silverbolt. And though the painted wingtips are nice from takara, he lack of paint matches with the G1 toy. Oh, first world problems.
Some people who grew up on G1 toys didn't grow up watching the cartoon.Rated X wrote:I never understood why people would want a cartoon accurate mold/sculpt in vintage toy accurate colors. It boggles the mind.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Optimum Supreme wrote:reluctantyouth wrote: I'll end up foregoing future Hasbro combiner limb releases and donate my Hasbro version with Dragstrip arm to St. Jude at the hospital I work at. The kids cannot get enough Transformers...especially when they are going through something out of their control. Bringing a smile to their faces in worth more than anything.
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Puts things in perspective a bit.
Sabrblade wrote:Some people who grew up on G1 toys didn't grow up watching the cartoon.Rated X wrote:I never understood why people would want a cartoon accurate mold/sculpt in vintage toy accurate colors. It boggles the mind.
If, say, you had lived in the UK instead of Miami back in the 1980s, you would not have grown up watching the Transformers cartoon because it didn't air there. The UK got the toys and the comics (even creating a ton of UK-original comics the U.S. didn't get back then) and the 1986 movie, but the cartoon barely ever aired over there, airing only a scant few episodes of season 1 before just disappearing from UK television completely. UK fans in the 1980s had only the toys and the comics to get their fill of the Transformers, and since the comics largely drew from the decos of the toys themselves moreso than the cartoon did, people developed a certain fondness for the look and colors of the toys over what they characters looked like in the cartoon (cuz they weren't watching it since it wasn't on).
Some kids in other markets had ONLY the toys and NO cartoon or comics, having to play with the toys by making up their own stories with them, and making their attachment to the toys' looks even more justified.
Not everyone allowed the cartoon to dictate how they feel a character should look. Some simply preferred how the toys looked over their cartoon looks, and some didn't even get to watch the cartoon to really make a choice and just defaulted to the toys' looks anyway.
ZeroWolf wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Some people who grew up on G1 toys didn't grow up watching the cartoon.Rated X wrote:I never understood why people would want a cartoon accurate mold/sculpt in vintage toy accurate colors. It boggles the mind.
If, say, you had lived in the UK instead of Miami back in the 1980s, you would not have grown up watching the Transformers cartoon because it didn't air there. The UK got the toys and the comics (even creating a ton of UK-original comics the U.S. didn't get back then) and the 1986 movie, but the cartoon barely ever aired over there, airing only a scant few episodes of season 1 before just disappearing from UK television completely. UK fans in the 1980s had only the toys and the comics to get their fill of the Transformers, and since the comics largely drew from the decos of the toys themselves moreso than the cartoon did, people developed a certain fondness for the look and colors of the toys over what they characters looked like in the cartoon (cuz they weren't watching it since it wasn't on).
Some kids in other markets had ONLY the toys and NO cartoon or comics, having to play with the toys by making up their own stories with them, and making their attachment to the toys' looks even more justified.
Not everyone allowed the cartoon to dictate how they feel a character should look. Some simply preferred how the toys looked over their cartoon looks, and some didn't even get to watch the cartoon to really make a choice and just defaulted to the toys' looks anyway.
Actually the videos of the cartoon were easily accessible and the key to vector sigma and a lot of the following episodes were aired as I watched them growing up from videos taped off tv. We even got season 3 on tape. don't quote me on this but the wide awake club programming block may have shown it all.
Sabrblade wrote:Some kids in other markets had ONLY the toys and NO cartoon or comics, having to play with the toys by making up their own stories with them, and making their attachment to the toys' looks even more justified.
That so? Well then, as I was going by things that Simon Furman and James Roberts had recalled from the 80's, I guess there were some small details that they weren't fully aware of.ZeroWolf wrote:Actually the videos of the cartoon were easily accessible and the key to vector sigma and a lot of the following episodes were aired as I watched them growing up from videos taped off tv. We even got season 3 on tape. don't quote me on this but the wide awake club programming block may have shown it all.
Twas but one single catalog mini-comic (in which Shockwave was also replaced by Soundwave in the former's prehistoric fight against the Dinobots), but I wouldn't be surprised if some held nostalgia to it.Optimum Supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Some kids in other markets had ONLY the toys and NO cartoon or comics, having to play with the toys by making up their own stories with them, and making their attachment to the toys' looks even more justified.
Somewhere they even got weird comics where Optimus was replaced by Jetfire. I wonder if those people are nostalgic for that.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:That so? Well then, as I was going by things that Simon Furman and James Roberts had recalled from the 80's, I guess there were some small details that they weren't fully aware of.ZeroWolf wrote:Actually the videos of the cartoon were easily accessible and the key to vector sigma and a lot of the following episodes were aired as I watched them growing up from videos taped off tv. We even got season 3 on tape. don't quote me on this but the wide awake club programming block may have shown it all.
Twas but one single catalog mini-comic (in which Shockwave was also replaced by Soundwave in the former's prehistoric fight against the Dinobots), but I wouldn't be surprised if some held nostalgia to it.Optimum Supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Some kids in other markets had ONLY the toys and NO cartoon or comics, having to play with the toys by making up their own stories with them, and making their attachment to the toys' looks even more justified.
Somewhere they even got weird comics where Optimus was replaced by Jetfire. I wonder if those people are nostalgic for that.
It was from Milton Bradley in European markets, yes.Desslok2201 wrote:Weren't those mini comics in the Milton Bradley releases?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ZeroWolf wrote:Wasn't there an issue with prime that made it necessary to change him out of the story on the Milton Bradley releases?
ZeroWolf wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Some people who grew up on G1 toys didn't grow up watching the cartoon.Rated X wrote:I never understood why people would want a cartoon accurate mold/sculpt in vintage toy accurate colors. It boggles the mind.
If, say, you had lived in the UK instead of Miami back in the 1980s, you would not have grown up watching the Transformers cartoon because it didn't air there. The UK got the toys and the comics (even creating a ton of UK-original comics the U.S. didn't get back then) and the 1986 movie, but the cartoon barely ever aired over there, airing only a scant few episodes of season 1 before just disappearing from UK television completely. UK fans in the 1980s had only the toys and the comics to get their fill of the Transformers, and since the comics largely drew from the decos of the toys themselves moreso than the cartoon did, people developed a certain fondness for the look and colors of the toys over what they characters looked like in the cartoon (cuz they weren't watching it since it wasn't on).
Some kids in other markets had ONLY the toys and NO cartoon or comics, having to play with the toys by making up their own stories with them, and making their attachment to the toys' looks even more justified.
Not everyone allowed the cartoon to dictate how they feel a character should look. Some simply preferred how the toys looked over their cartoon looks, and some didn't even get to watch the cartoon to really make a choice and just defaulted to the toys' looks anyway.
Actually the videos of the cartoon were easily accessible and the key to vector sigma and a lot of the following episodes were aired as I watched them growing up from videos taped off tv. We even got season 3 on tape. don't quote me on this but the wide awake club programming block may have shown it all.
ZeroWolf wrote:alpha Bravo probs is going to get a head change for blades though takara are stuck for groove as he's only a legends with Rook taking his place.
Or release him as Runabout.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:alpha Bravo probs is going to get a head change for blades though takara are stuck for groove as he's only a legends with Rook taking his place.
Not only that, if they have to include Legends Menasor would pose a problem. Blackjack was never released as is in Japan, instead he was redecoed in black and yellow into the Cybertron (Autobot) Micromaster Blackheat. I guess TakaraTomy will either keep his US identity or turn him into a drone.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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