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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Matrix. » Tue May 20, 2008 12:20 pm

Good news everyone- BBC Radio 4 just revealed that Steven Moffat's in charge of Doctor Who from series 5 onwards.

Huzzah! Our prayers are answered!
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

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I just don't get what the hell they are, and why.



But anyways :P

Steven Moffat you say? I'm not much good with remembering names, but I find it odd that he shares my surname. It's not exactly a common one is it?
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby bcm77 » Tue May 20, 2008 1:26 pm

Matrix. wrote:Good news everyone- BBC Radio 4 just revealed that Steven Moffat's in charge of Doctor Who from series 5 onwards.

Huzzah! Our prayers are answered!



Good f'ing riddance to RTD,he started well but his agenda for making thinly veiled propoganda for Gay Pride instead of good sci-fi drama got in the way which resulted in some horrible episodes of Doctor Who and the worst spinoff in TV history.
I'm not a fan of Steven Moffat's prior work on the show and think Blink is the most overrated POS in the 45 year history of the programme but I am willing to give his version of the show a chance as it can hardly be any worse than the garbage RTD has been serving up over the last series or so. I now expect David Tennant to leave at the same time and series 5 to be the start of a whole new era.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Editor » Tue May 20, 2008 2:03 pm

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Moffet in Charge?? Let the James Nesbitt as Doc #11 rumor mill to start up again.

I don't see Tennent jump ship all too fast especially seeing they have spun the 2009 shooting plans for the specials around his availability. If he was going to jump ship with ratings doing decently, I would see a switch happen sooner so they could do a full 2009 season.

As far as "Unicorn and Wasp" It wasn't the greatest episode IMO but it was a bit fun, i did find the unicorn part of the story weak and seemed thrown in to give it a more AC/Mystery style of tale, but it could have been better. It was however the first time in 2+ seasons where I didn't bother to fully watch Confidential afterwards.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Matrix. » Tue May 20, 2008 3:34 pm

bcm77 wrote:
Matrix. wrote:Good news everyone- BBC Radio 4 just revealed that Steven Moffat's in charge of Doctor Who from series 5 onwards.

Huzzah! Our prayers are answered!



Good f'ing riddance to RTD,he started well but his agenda for making thinly veiled propoganda for Gay Pride instead of good sci-fi drama got in the way which resulted in some horrible episodes of Doctor Who and the worst spinoff in TV history.
I'm not a fan of Steven Moffat's prior work on the show and think Blink is the most overrated POS in the 45 year history of the programme but I am willing to give his version of the show a chance as it can hardly be any worse than the garbage RTD has been serving up over the last series or so. I now expect David Tennant to leave at the same time and series 5 to be the start of a whole new era.


Oh, stop exaggerating. In no way is Torchwood the worst spinoff of all time. K9 and Company trumps it easily, and that's just within the Doctor Who universe. Series 2 of Torchwood was very enjoyable as well.

Same goes for Russel's writing. His gay agenda is exaggerated far too much. He slips a gay joke in episodes- so what? It never disrupts the plot, nor does it 'get in the way' of a story. I dislike him because his stories are usually the silliest.

He's certainly not worse than Helen Raynor- responsible for the lazy writing of Daleks in Manhattan and The Sontaran Stratagem.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Tue May 20, 2008 3:58 pm

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Editor wrote:Moffet in Charge?? Let the James Nesbitt as Doc #11 rumor mill to start up again.


6 months ago I would have said "Who the hell is James Nesbitt?" ... but then I saw Jekyll.

So i've seen what Moffett and Nesbitt are like together, so yeah, i'd go for that combination.

And Moffett was pretty much expected to take over anyway. It's been known for a while now that RTD would be leaving DW at the end of the year.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Editor » Tue May 20, 2008 6:03 pm

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Burn wrote: 6 months ago I would have said "Who the hell is James Nesbitt?" ... but then I saw Jekyll.


Similar, but I had heard of Nesbitt before Jekyll. That said, Jekyll was a good short series, and if for the next Doctor they wanted to go with something different, He would be an interesting choice, but I would rather Tennent stick around.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Sun May 25, 2008 7:45 pm

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Well, the new trailer for the latter half of Series Four is up. I watched it on YouTube, so now the question becomes how much longer do we keep pretending that Davros isn't this series' Big Bad?

Answer: Until you get 47 seconds into this.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby waaaaghlord » Mon May 26, 2008 11:09 am

Very nice.

But what has all of that got to do with all the bees disappearing?
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Cornicer » Mon May 26, 2008 11:44 am

Matrix. wrote:Good news everyone- BBC Radio 4 just revealed that Steven Moffat's in charge of Doctor Who from series 5 onwards.

Huzzah! Our prayers are answered!


Really?!


AWESOME!

I love Moffat's stories, and I can't wait to see what he does with the series. Now I just have to hope that Tennant stays on board at least for series 5. *crosses fingers*



As for The Unicorn and the Wasp; it was another nice, inoffensive episode. Entertaining and a bit cheesy. It looks like starting with Silence in the Library we're in for some 'meatier' episodes.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Mon May 26, 2008 3:48 pm

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nah, I would imagine we'll have this big Moffat two-parter, then two "quiet" episodes (including this years "Love and Monsters" mwahahahaha) before the big two-part season finale.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Matrix. » Tue May 27, 2008 10:23 am

Burn wrote:nah, I would imagine we'll have this big Moffat two-parter, then two "quiet" episodes (including this years "Love and Monsters" mwahahahaha) before the big two-part season finale.


I worry about this year's 'Doctor Light' episode- without Moffat writing it, I doubt it'll be up to scratch. I could easily be proven wrong, though: there's plenty of talent out there.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Matrix. » Sat May 31, 2008 2:26 pm

Oh, Mister Moffat, marry me now. Best episode of the series.

Was I the only one who thought towards the start, when a green light was behind the bookshelves, that the production team had missed some greenscreening they needed doing? Watching Confidential suggested otherwise, but still...

River Song is a shameless reference to the Time Traveller's wife. Right down to the book that details when she meets him! :P
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Sat May 31, 2008 10:24 pm

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Steven Moffat should be banned from writing two-parters! :P

Once again though he managed to get me on the edge of my seat (well actually he got me sitting up in bed, close enough) at certain points.

Last year it was scary statues, this years it's the shadows ... simple things that he's managed to make suspenseful.

Given what's been said about the season finale, it was quite ominous when River didn't want to talk about what happened to Donna ...
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby bcm77 » Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:00 am

It was nice to see Moffatt remembered to include the Doctor for more than a cameo but overall the episode was still mediocre and I wish they'd just fast forward to the finale,kill off whoever is going to be killed off and tell RTD to piss off now instead of after the four specials.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Matrix. » Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:49 pm

bcm77 wrote:It was nice to see Moffatt remembered to include the Doctor for more than a cameo but overall the episode was still mediocre and I wish they'd just fast forward to the finale,kill off whoever is going to be killed off and tell RTD to piss off now instead of after the four specials.


Could you stop mentioning his absence in Blink? We know you didn't like it already. If he's commissioned to write the Doctor-Light episode of the series and- good grief- he sticks to his job, you can hardly blame him for it.

I can hardly see how it's mediocre. Especially in comparison to the Sontaran Stratagem.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Cornicer » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:06 pm

bcm77 wrote:It was nice to see Moffatt remembered to include the Doctor for more than a cameo but overall the episode was still mediocre and I wish they'd just fast forward to the finale,kill off whoever is going to be killed off and tell RTD to piss off now instead of after the four specials.


Why are you even watching the show then? If you hate RTD so much, and just want to "fast forward" to Moffat's tenure as exec. producer, then why are you watching this season?


As for my thoughts on the episode, I'm loving it! Moffat's done it again, and I am REALLY excited to see him take over.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Mkall » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:04 pm

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Same here, I can't wait to see how that little girl plays into the whole thing.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby bcm77 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:35 am

Cornicer wrote:
bcm77 wrote:It was nice to see Moffatt remembered to include the Doctor for more than a cameo but overall the episode was still mediocre and I wish they'd just fast forward to the finale,kill off whoever is going to be killed off and tell RTD to piss off now instead of after the four specials.


Why are you even watching the show then? If you hate RTD so much, and just want to "fast forward" to Moffat's tenure as exec. producer, then why are you watching this season?


As for my thoughts on the episode, I'm loving it! Moffat's done it again, and I am REALLY excited to see him take over.


Because occasionally there is still an episode that's somewhat watchable.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Editor » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:20 am

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BCM77, a point of note.
"Blink" is an episode of the British science fiction television series Doctor Who. Just as in 2006's "Love & Monsters", the Doctor and his companion have very little screen time, due to other episodes being shot at the same time.


Stop blaming Moffet and others for the Doctors lack of screen time in episodes when the main culprit is the BBC saving money by having the 'lite' episodes filmed (almost as second location units) while other episodes are being shot.

You keep bringing it up as if it was a vanity project he did writing a store that the Doctor barely appears in, when that is what was commisioned when he was asked to write it. By having Blink not feature Doc and Martha, it allowed them the extra time needed to work on the Utopia/Master Plan arc. Much as Love & Monsters allow the principles to be working on the Season 2 finals.

So brace yourself because there is another Doctor-lite episode coming up after next weeks episode.

That said......

This weeks episode was quite interesting even if I pretty much think I have the girls role figured out (the revelation from her doc [more great casting there] cements what i think is going on) and I thought Alex played River very nicely. that said the 'death scene' for the PA was dragged out a bit long for my liking.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby bcm77 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:04 pm

OK point taken.
As misdirected as my venom may have been I still find the whole concept of a Doctor-lite episode ridiculous and if all it did was give the BBC more time to prepare the pitiful finale of series 3 then I wonder why they bothered.
As for Steven Moffatt I think he's by no means the worst writer in the shows history but possibly the most overrated.
Maybe if he didn't come across as such a prick in the interviews I've seen on several Classic Doctor Who DVD's I'd be a bit more well disposed towards him but to me he seems a bit too far up his own backside.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Editor » Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:21 pm

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Ah, now that is interesting. Seeing I don't care to pay the high price for Doctor Who DVD's in North America, I only have picked a few selected stories I really liked, so I don't have those interviews. How exactly does he come off as a prick, as the interviews I've seen on Confidential does show he has a certain attitude regarding Doctor Who, but not to the point of him being 'prick'ish.

Anything in particular of note in how he is in those interviews? Is he comparing those to what he would have done or what?
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby bcm77 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:40 pm

Editor wrote:Ah, now that is interesting. Seeing I don't care to pay the high price for Doctor Who DVD's in North America, I only have picked a few selected stories I really liked, so I don't have those interviews. How exactly does he come off as a prick, as the interviews I've seen on Confidential does show he has a certain attitude regarding Doctor Who, but not to the point of him being 'prick'ish.

Anything in particular of note in how he is in those interviews? Is he comparing those to what he would have done or what?


Like some of the other new series writers he seems very dismissive of anything from the Classic era which to me comes across as arrogance,particularly as Moffatt & co haven't reached anywhere near the standard of the best Classic stories.
In some instances he's right,a show that runs for so long isn't always going to be great but to totally say "our way is best" and reject anything else just because the FX or acting wasn't that great is very disrespectful of the history of the show that's providing him with a hefty paycheque.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:01 pm

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bcm77 wrote:I still find the whole concept of a Doctor-lite episode ridiculous.


Whereas I actually enjoy them because we get to see the Doctor from a different angle. How he and his actions affect others. For decades we've seen a Doctor who breezes in, saves the day, then breezes out, leaving people to pick up the pieces and what not.
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