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The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus2006 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:21 am

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So I guess Saber was right on it being Smokescreen but It still will not be G1 Smokescreen as we seen how diffrent Wheeljack went from Scientist G1 to Prime Wrecker.

I am curious to know what the heck are the Omega Keys is this what OP & Megatron were fighting over during the episode Legacy.

To me it reminds of ROTF with the Cube Sliver it contains Knowledge somehow this will let Megatron use or control the Power of the Primes if you know Only a Prime cane use these artifiacts such as the Solus Hammer.

Curious to see what the Omega Keys will look like and where and how they will be found & recovered.

I assume Jack will show Smokescreen the Ropes get him used to being on Team Prime and show him how the Earth works.

Curious to see how Smokescreen will be such as will he be Cocky Rash or Musclebound and a Wrecker sort of type.

Red Energon we need to know what this is and what it does we will find out this Friday.

Good lord so much packed in these few new episodes cant wait to see how it will all come together it is going to be friggin epic.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:18 am

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Rodimus2006 wrote:So I guess Saber was right on it being Smokescreen but It still will not be G1 Smokescreen as we seen how diffrent Wheeljack went from Scientist G1 to Prime Wrecker.


Of course not. Smokescreen had little to no personality in the cartoon other than his smokescreen gimmick. Besides, this isn't G1.

Rodimus2006 wrote:I am curious to know what the heck are the Omega Keys is this what OP & Megatron were fighting over during the episode Legacy.


The Omega Key in WFC was a key that activated Omega Supreme. I'm unaware that there's more than one, but that's what an "Omega Key" is in this continuity.

Rodimus2006 wrote:To me it reminds of ROTF with the Cube Sliver it contains Knowledge somehow this will let Megatron use or control the Power of the Primes if you know Only a Prime cane use these artifiacts such as the Solus Hammer.


What? Anybody can use these artifacts. It's just the Forge of Solus Prime that needs to be welded by a Prime. Or are you talking about something that you want to see that can only be held by a Prime?

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Curious to see what the Omega Keys will look like and where and how they will be found & recovered.


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Curious to see how Smokescreen will be such as will he be Cocky Rash or Musclebound and a Wrecker sort of type.



So far, Smokescreen is a new character to the Aligned continuity family. He is no known Wrecker so far. But he seems cocky, and I'm hoping he can cause smokescreens. :D

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus2006 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:31 am

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You mistunderstood when I said Smokescreen and mentioned Wrecker I didnt say he would be a Wrecker I meant he would be a Fighter Like a Wrecker meaning all he cares about is taking names and kicking Butt sort of like a GrimLock or someone along those lines who lives for Fighting.

Or could be similar towards Animated BB meaning, Cocky, Brash, Headstrong and dosent follow the chain of Command Well.

On the Omega Keys I dont think it will be the same as the Omega deal you mentioned this is about Knowledge of the Primes and the ability to control thier powers without the Matrix of Leadership. This would let Megatron use and do things that only a Prime could do and he could not do before also probably would increase his powers 10x fold along with the Dark Energon that flows through him. The Omega Keys will not be the same deal as seen before we learned this from Key to Vector Sigma.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:58 am

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PrymeStriker wrote:The Omega Key in WFC was a key that activated Omega Supreme. I'm unaware that there's more than one, but that's what an "Omega Key" is in this continuity.


Omega Supreme was the Omega Key. Zeta Prime implied it, then Megatron realized it when Omega Supreme was trying to kill him. They "key" thing Zeta had was basically a lojack device.

Rodimus2006 wrote:On the Omega Keys I dont think it will be the same as the Omega deal you mentioned this is about Knowledge of the Primes and the ability to control thier powers without the Matrix of Leadership. This would let Megatron use and do things that only a Prime could do and he could not do before also probably would increase his powers 10x fold along with the Dark Energon that flows through him. The Omega Keys will not be the same deal as seen before we learned this from Key to Vector Sigma.


And you base this off of what, exactly? Because that part about the Omega Key and Omega Supreme? That's established as canon for this timeline.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby BeastProwl » Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:18 pm

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I just got an idea. You know how megatron is getting a new arm, or something? What if they found the body of one of the 13 and raplaced megatron's arm with his? That way, he can wield the relics of the primes that are otherwise un-usable to him? I doubt thats the angle they are going for, but its an idea.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:21 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:The Omega Key in WFC was a key that activated Omega Supreme. I'm unaware that there's more than one, but that's what an "Omega Key" is in this continuity.


Omega Supreme was the Omega Key. Zeta Prime implied it, then Megatron realized it when Omega Supreme was trying to kill him. They "key" thing Zeta had was basically a lojack device.

Rodimus2006 wrote:On the Omega Keys I dont think it will be the same as the Omega deal you mentioned this is about Knowledge of the Primes and the ability to control thier powers without the Matrix of Leadership. This would let Megatron use and do things that only a Prime could do and he could not do before also probably would increase his powers 10x fold along with the Dark Energon that flows through him. The Omega Keys will not be the same deal as seen before we learned this from Key to Vector Sigma.


And you base this off of what, exactly? Because that part about the Omega Key and Omega Supreme? That's established as canon for this timeline.


like that's gping to stop him.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus2006 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:18 pm

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We dont know what the Omega Keys are, or Red Energon is we havent seen them in action on Prime.

We dont know how or what Smokescreen will be like but people are comparing him to Jazz or Prowl for some reason maybe cause of his Color Scheme or the number 38.

I dont know what the Omega Keys will be so I will continue to watch Prime and find out for myself.

For now I am going to watch this episode on Friday should be action packed with alot going on such as Smokescreen, Starscream going for Red Energon.

I wonder if Red Energon could be apart of the Appex Armor Scream has on maybe it feuls it or something.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby BeastProwl » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:34 pm

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Its referring to two keys. One of them alpha, the other omega. Pretty self explanatory.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:53 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:I just got an idea. You know how megatron is getting a new arm, or something? What if they found the body of one of the 13 and raplaced megatron's arm with his? That way, he can wield the relics of the primes that are otherwise un-usable to him? I doubt thats the angle they are going for, but its an idea.


I don't think that's how it works. Having bits of a Prime grafted into you doesn't really make one a Prime. Otherwise, Megatron would have done that with Zeta Prime years ago.

Rodimus2006 wrote:We dont know what the Omega Keys are


Yes we do, they talk about it in War for Cybertron. They specifically refer to Omega Supreme as the Omega Key, his job is to defend and unlock the core of Cybertron. You spend two missions in the Decepticon campaign trying to force him to do that. How are you not understanding this?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:18 pm

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Though, there is the possibility that the show could ignore the WFC version (it's happened before) of the Omega Key and go its own route with it. Granted, I don't want that to happen, but it still could. :|
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:14 pm

Shadowman wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:I just got an idea. You know how megatron is getting a new arm, or something? What if they found the body of one of the 13 and raplaced megatron's arm with his? That way, he can wield the relics of the primes that are otherwise un-usable to him? I doubt thats the angle they are going for, but its an idea.


I don't think that's how it works. Having bits of a Prime grafted into you doesn't really make one a Prime. Otherwise, Megatron would have done that with Zeta Prime years ago.

Rodimus2006 wrote:We dont know what the Omega Keys are


Yes we do, they talk about it in War for Cybertron. They specifically refer to Omega Supreme as the Omega Key, his job is to defend and unlock the core of Cybertron. You spend two missions in the Decepticon campaign trying to force him to do that. How are you not understanding this?


that's assuming that he knew then what he knows now about the primes.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:15 pm

doh double.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:16 pm

redohtimator triple sorry.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Archanubis » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:24 pm

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Rodimus2006 wrote:So I guess Saber was right on it being Smokescreen...

It's quite likely at this point, but I think the jury's still out. Based on the coloration and head design (which, honestly, kinda looks like Starscream), it COULD be Silverstreak/Bluestreak. Definately NOT Prowl, since the car mode doesn't look like a police car, which is Prowl's usual alt mode.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:43 pm

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Rodimus2006 wrote:So I guess Saber was right on it being Smokescreen...

It's quite likely at this point, but I think the jury's still out. Based on the coloration and head design (which, honestly, kinda looks like Starscream), it COULD be Silverstreak/Bluestreak. Definately NOT Prowl, since the car mode doesn't look like a police car, which is Prowl's usual alt mode.


It's Smokescreen without a doubt. There's too many hints for it to turn out to be someone else (unless they decide to go with Crosswise. Wouldn't that be a welcoming surprise). However, everyone seems to ignore the fact that there's already an animation model for a Prime Prowl (or Universe MMO Prowl, which is part of the Aligned family nonetheless). All the other reasons it's not Prowl are moot points when it comes to the fact that he's already got a model.

Now how about this? Smokescreen is really Starscream in disguise as an Autobot. Red Energon makes you morph into different transformers, which is what Makeshift ran off of. Probably not the case, but it would be hilarious. And sad. I want a new Autobot. :-(
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Archanubis » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:55 pm

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Rodimus2006 wrote:So I guess Saber was right on it being Smokescreen...

It's quite likely at this point, but I think the jury's still out. Based on the coloration and head design (which, honestly, kinda looks like Starscream), it COULD be Silverstreak/Bluestreak. Definately NOT Prowl, since the car mode doesn't look like a police car, which is Prowl's usual alt mode.


It's Smokescreen without a doubt. There's too many hints for it to turn out to be someone else (unless they decide to go with Crosswise. Wouldn't that be a welcoming surprise). However, everyone seems to ignore the fact that there's already an animation model for a Prime Prowl (or Universe MMO Prowl, which is part of the Aligned family nonetheless). All the other reasons it's not Prowl are moot points when it comes to the fact that he's already got a model.

I agree that there have been too many hints for the character not to be called Smokescreen - though in the recent IGN clip, no one really knows who he is.

Now how about this? Smokescreen is really Starscream in disguise as an Autobot. Red Energon makes you morph into different transformers, which is what Makeshift ran off of. Probably not the case, but it would be hilarious. And sad. I want a new Autobot. :-(

Like you said, probably not the case. Something tells me that even "shifters" like Makeshift require a T-Cog, and they'd have to explain how Starscream installed that one from the clone he killed back in "Armada." Besides, something tells me Starscream's not giving up that Apex Armor anytime soon, and I have a feeling that T-Cog or no, that thing prevents Cybertronians from transforming at all...

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:59 pm

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Archanubis wrote:I agree that there have been too many hints for the character not to be called Smokescreen - though in the recent IGN clip, no one really knows who he is.
No one but Bulkhead knew who Wheeljack was (Prime only knew of him, but not personally), and there hasn't been an Aligned Smokescreen yet.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Postby Sabrblade » Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:50 pm

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:03 pm

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That Bot wrote:Wait, didn't they call him Smokescreen in the IGN clip? I could've sworn they did.
The IGN clip was indeed titled "Smokescreen in Action".


Maybe it's all just a "smokescreen" to hide who it is cough warpath cough cough :-$
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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That Bot wrote:Wait, didn't they call him Smokescreen in the IGN clip? I could've sworn they did.
The IGN clip was indeed titled "Smokescreen in Action".


Maybe it's all just a "smokescreen" to hide who it is cough warpath cough cough :-$


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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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PrymeStriker wrote:
njb902 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
That Bot wrote:Wait, didn't they call him Smokescreen in the IGN clip? I could've sworn they did.
The IGN clip was indeed titled "Smokescreen in Action".


Maybe it's all just a "smokescreen" to hide who it is cough warpath cough cough :-$


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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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PrymeStriker wrote:
njb902 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
That Bot wrote:Wait, didn't they call him Smokescreen in the IGN clip? I could've sworn they did.
The IGN clip was indeed titled "Smokescreen in Action".


Maybe it's all just a "smokescreen" to hide who it is cough warpath cough cough :-$


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Because Warpath would totally be a race car.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:29 pm

PrymeStriker wrote:
That Bot wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
njb902 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
That Bot wrote:Wait, didn't they call him Smokescreen in the IGN clip? I could've sworn they did.
The IGN clip was indeed titled "Smokescreen in Action".


Maybe it's all just a "smokescreen" to hide who it is cough warpath cough cough :-$


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Seems legit.


Because Warpath would totally be a race car.


I was being sarcastic.......now what the hell. I think it is warpath, he goes from a red uber robot of destruction to a whitish race car :grin:

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