The Energon Pub

[Sabrblade]

At least season one didn't reset the status quo every other episode. Orion Pax,

Gave the Decepticons the Iacon Database, setting up the main premise for the rest of the whole season. And introduced the Insecticons (well, one, at least).

Bumblebee's missing T-cog,

Was what got Starscream to lose his to MECH, thus kicking Project: Chimera into further development and putting Starscream is the position that resulted in his season 2 character arc. That two-parter also introduced the Forge.

red energon,

Was never a plot, but a plot device. It served its purpose well enough, getting Starscream all four Omega Keys, and assisting in the final chapter of his season 2 arc.

Bulkhead's shot in the back, all met and extinguished immediately.

This one I'll give you, but it did last for much more than one episode. And, considering that one episode has him still out cold and the next has him up and about while limping, I like to think that some time went by between eps off screen (time that I would have liked to have seen, since Fowler made it a point to have Optimus keep him updated on Bulkhead's condition, yet he disappeared until well after Bulkhead was already awake ).

However, there is a reason behind the scenes as to why this happened (whether or not it's a "good" reason, however, is up for debate). At NYCC 2012, Duane Capizzi stated that, with a show like this, they wanted every episode to stand alone and feel like a completed series where it's overly satisfying. But they eventually hit a point in season 2 where that just went out the window. The epicness was overtaking them and so they decided to switch it to a serialized continuing storyline format instead. I think we can pinpoint the era of the season with Bulkhead's injury, Smokescreen's arrival, Silas as Cylas, and the Star Saber's introduction as being that point.

Yeah, we got the Omega Keys. How long did that last; six episodes? Then they were destroyed in the Omega Lock's combustion. What a pathetic waste. Pointless.

You could say the exact same about:

• Unicron in season 1.
• The Hate Plague in G1 season 3.
• The Plasma Energy Chamber and its key in G1 season 4.
• The Planet Buster in Beast Wars season 1.
• Ravage and his Transwarp Cruiser in BW season 2.
• Tigerhawk and the Nemesis in BW season 3.
• The Key to Vector Sigma and Plasma Energy Chamber in Beast Machines season 1.
• The Maximals' possessing the Grand Mal and their Spark power boost in BM season 2.
• Fort Max in Autobot possession in RiD.
• The second use of Super Energon in Energon.
• Megatron possessing the AllSpark and its Key in Animated season 1.
• The Decepticon space bridge and Omega Supreme in (only) Animated season 2.
• The Lugnut Supremes in Animated season 3.

They're called "season finale plot devices" for a reason. Several of those had even less screentime than the Omega Keys did.

Breakdown was a waste too: "Something awful's going to happen here, OH he's dead........wait, he's back aga-and he's dead again."

I'll also give you Breakdown, but considering that nothing was really even done with him in season 1 after "Operation Breakdown", I say he was wasted material long before season 2.

Hardshell was a joke,

Cliffjumper, Skyquake, Makeshift. All guest stars and plot devices, just like Hardshell.

and then there's the outrage of Deadwing.

Really? One would think that upon learning the truth about his brother's fate, there'd be no way he could give proper vengeance without getting off easy from a master he no longer wished to serve, especially when said master had just recently decided not to tolerate any insurrection due to their forces needing to be united.

Bee didn't kill Skyquake. Skyquake was still briefly alive after hitting the ground. His life just gave out from the sheer force of the impact. Starscream's handiwork, however, disgusted Dreadwing even further, thus he was Dreadwing's new target.

Heaven forbid any Autobot die. "Nobody's safe from death" my exhaust port.

Guess they should have written "...unless we're not done developing the character," as an addendum.

BTW, do you recall where this original statement was given? I can't remember and I'd like to take a look at it again.

Yeah, season one was "random," but is a season's arc all that matters in a cartoon? How about continuity? If something happened one episode, they didn’t fix or forget about it in the next. Prime examples of this during season two are Operation: Bumblebee and The Human Factor. “Oh no, Bumblebee lost his T-and it’s fixed.”

"Resulting in Starscream losing his, setting him up for his development in the rest of the season."

Really, the whole point surrounding Bee in that two-parter wasn't his losing his T-Cog, but to exposite to the audience why he can't speak. The T-Cog plot was just an excuse to get us to focus on him for an episode or two. Doesn't help that Ratchet stole the spotlight of that two-parter, either.

“Silas in critical condi-and he’s back. Why did he kill his te-oh, that’s wh-and he’s screwed again.”

Twas the MECH story arc finale.

And really, MECH barely ever struck a presence with me at all in this show. The only times they ever seemed to be of any real importance to the plot were in the "Operation: Bumblebee" two-parter (with their coming out victorious w/ Starscream's T-Cog) and "Nemesis Prime" with Project: Chimera complete. Every other time they showed up made them feel like either guest stars or got outshown by the Decepticons.

To me, MECH just felt no more significant than Meltdown or the Headmaster from Animated; credible threats but still second tier villains. Take MECH away from the show and little (not "nothing", but "little") is lost.

Season one was better at handling this. Breakdown didn't get his eye back at the end of Operation: Breakdown. Instead, he was given an eyepatch.

Yet, he was still sidelined after that episode, showing up in battle only once, with his eyepatch episode being hardly anything important.

Crisscross didn’t pull a Men In Black and have June forget everything she saw. Instead, June became the first human after the pilot to learn about the Autobots.

Because it wasn't a filler. It was supposed to develop the story, by making June aware of Team Prime's existence.

Tl;dr, season one’s better IMO because it didn’t waste [as many] characters or reset the status quo every time. Season two had its highlights, but the majority of its arc were gigantic disappointments and wastes of potential, both in character and plot.

And I respectfully disagree since, in my opinion, every episode of season 2 had something relevant that added to the plot and furthered the story in some way, whereas season 1 dragged its feet and went in various directions with little guidance and barely any idea with what it wanted to do, swerving hard into a sudden Unicron story that felt dropped in from out of nowhere.

Looking at season 1 as a whole, you can tell from its beginning to its middle and end that it wanted to tell a story about Dark Energon and its secrets that would ultimately lead to the revelation of Unicron at the Earth's core. But, the season only seemed to ever have this in mind at just its beginning, its exact middle, and its end. The rest of the season kept introducing and focusing on other unrelated concepts and plot threads that were all over the place, and mostly either left dangling or not explored as much until the second season.

Whereas season 2 feels tight and contained, building upon a lot of what came before and enhancing it, as well as staying on task with its primary objectives: To collect all the Iacon Relics sent by Alpha Trion, to have Project: Chimera continued and completed, to develop Dreadwing as a character, and to develop a vulnerable, humbled Starscream who has lost everything. And, it did all that, and more. There's not a single episode of season 2 that I would do without, not even the clip shows as "Grill" introduced Project Damocles (which would be the final plot device to bring the MECH subplot to a close) and "Patch" got both Starscream back in Megatron's ranks and Dreadwing aware of the truth surrounding Skyquake.

[TheBossII]

After reading through that, it does close a few plot holes. Just wish they would of shown something with the syn energon a bit sooner. Plus also showing a little bit more bitterness with knock out would of been better. It's gonna be sad when prime and if prime comes to an end.

[kaijuguy19]

So what kind of shows both Tf and none TF related do you guy think Transformers Prime ranks up with?

[Shadowman]

Yeah, we got the Omega Keys. How long did that last; six episodes? Then they were destroyed in the Omega Lock's combustion. What a pathetic waste. Pointless.

What else was supposed to be done? Throw them all away and find them again? They served their purpose.

But of course, destroying them reset the status quo. Assuming Darkmount was always there, and Jasper was always a half-demolished ghost-town, and the Autobot base was always a smoldering ruin.

[njb902]

Yeah, we got the Omega Keys. How long did that last; six episodes? Then they were destroyed in the Omega Lock's combustion. What a pathetic waste. Pointless.

What else was supposed to be done? Throw them all away and find them again? They served their purpose.

But of course, destroying them reset the status quo. Assuming Darkmount was always there, and Jasper was always a half-demolished ghost-town, and the Autobot base was always a smoldering ruin.

Shrodinger's cat?

[PrymeStriker]

What else was supposed to be done?

Oh, I don't know.....

Do what they were supposed to do in the first damn place and restore Cybertron?

Assuming Darkmount was always there,

Again, that was destroyed within four episodes. Another pathetic waste. Lasted as long as Bulkhead's "critical" injury.

and Jasper was always a half-demolished ghost-town,

Yeah, watch how long that lasts.

and the Autobot base was always a smoldering ruin.

They'll find another base. They technically have already.




...

At least season one didn't reset the status quo every other episode. Orion Pax,

Gave the Decepticons the Iacon Database, setting up the main premise for the rest of the whole season. And introduced the Insecticons (well, one, at least).

Yep.........but Optimus restored rather quickly, and the Iacon Database didn't last outside the second season as most of the relics we can assume were destroyed (assumption made only because we only saw the Apex Armor be recovered from Cybertron's wreckage; not solid grounds, though).

Was what got Starscream to lose his to MECH, thus kicking Project: Chimera into further development and putting Starscream is the position that resulted in his season 2 character arc.

I'll give you that one. Season two was Starscream's best season.

That two-parter also introduced the Forge.

Which wasn't put to use for 16 episodes, only to be drained of power 9 episodes later.

This one I'll give you, but it did last for much more than one episode. And, considering that one episode has him still out cold and the next has him up and about while limping, I like to think that some time went by between eps off screen (time that I would have liked to have seen, since Fowler made it a point to have Optimus keep him updated on Bulkhead's condition, yet he disappeared until well after Bulkhead was already awake ).

I would've personally liked for Bulkhead to have returned in the season finale. That would've made his injury last 9 or 10 episodes, a little more than Megatron's stasis lock.

You could say the exact same about:
Unicron in season 1.

I heard he was returning this season?

[*]The Hate Plague in G1 season 3.

G1 wasn't that great of a series. I'd expect as much.

I'll also give you Breakdown, but considering that nothing was really even done with him in season 1 after "Operation Breakdown", I say he was wasted material long before season 2.

They could've at least expanded on Breakdown & Bulkhead's rivalry instead of leaving that to Takara's toy bios.

Hardshell was a joke,

Cliffjumper, Skyquake, Makeshift. All guest stars and plot devices, just like Hardshell.[/quote]

Hardshell was a joke because he shot Bulkhead, claimed glory (c wut i did thar?), and got killed by a 14-year-old girl, and his victim still survived.

and then there's the outrage of Deadwing.

Really? One would think that upon learning the truth about his brother's fate, there'd be no way he could give proper vengeance without getting off easy from a master he no longer wished to serve, especially when said master had just recently decided not to tolerate any insurrection due to their forces needing to be united.[/quote]

"Outrage" by the fandom.

Heaven forbid any Autobot die. "Nobody's safe from death" my exhaust port.

Guess they should have written "...unless we're not done developing the character," as an addendum.

They're doing a terrible job of developing characters as of the present.

BTW, do you recall where this original statement was given? I can't remember and I'd like to take a look at it again.

I'll find it eventually too tired right now.

“Silas in critical condi-and he’s back. Why did he kill his te-oh, that’s wh-and he’s screwed again.”

Twas the MECH story arc finale.

And really, MECH barely ever struck a presence with me at all in this show. The only times they ever seemed to be of any real importance to the plot were in the "Operation: Bumblebee" two-parter (with their coming out victorious w/ Starscream's T-Cog) and "Nemesis Prime" with Project: Chimera complete. Every other time they showed up made them feel like either guest stars or got outshown by the Decepticons.

They didn't touch on them enough and decided to end their arc without doing so.

Season one was better at handling this. Breakdown didn't get his eye back at the end of Operation: Breakdown. Instead, he was given an eyepatch.

Yet, he was still sidelined after that episode, showing up in battle only once, with his eyepatch episode being hardly anything important.

He still didn't get his eye back. Unlike Starscream and Bumblebee who eventually got their missing parts back.

'Guess Breakdown didn't live long enough.

And I respectfully disagree since, in my opinion, every episode of season 2 had something relevant that added to the plot and furthered the story in some way, whereas season 1 dragged its feet and went in various directions with little guidance and barely any idea with what it wanted to do, swerving hard into a sudden Unicron story that felt dropped in from out of nowhere.

Looking at season 1 as a whole, you can tell from its beginning to its middle and end that it wanted to tell a story about Dark Energon and its secrets that would ultimately lead to the revelation of Unicron at the Earth's core. But, the season only seemed to ever have this in mind at just its beginning, its exact middle, and its end. The rest of the season kept introducing and focusing on other unrelated concepts and plot threads that were all over the place, and mostly either left dangling or not explored as much until the second season.

Whereas season 2 feels tight and contained, building upon a lot of what came before and enhancing it, as well as staying on task with its primary objectives: To collect all the Iacon Relics sent by Alpha Trion, to have Project: Chimera continued and completed, to develop Dreadwing as a character, and to develop a vulnerable, humbled Starscream who has lost everything. And, it did all that, and more. There's not a single episode of season 2 that I would do without, not even the clip shows as "Grill" introduced Project Damocles (which would be the final plot device to bring the MECH subplot to a close) and "Patch" got both Starscream back in Megatron's ranks and Dreadwing aware of the truth surrounding Skyquake.

You have your point. Meh, diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.
Wow, that's a dirty yet boring answer.

[Sabrblade]

What else was supposed to be done?

Oh, I don't know.....

Do what they were supposed to do in the first damn place and restore Cybertron?

If it were Optimus who had control of the thing, he would have done just that. But this is Megatron we're talking about here. Mr. glory hound who does things to spite others for his own selfishness. It's his fault that the keys and lock got damaged, cuz he wasted the opportunity to save his home planet by instead choosing to both belittle his rival and aim the lock's power at another planet to feed his greed. Earth and everyone on it was dying, Optimus had to act and shut it off as fast as possible, by ANY means necessary.

Assuming Darkmount was always there,

Again, that was destroyed within four episodes. Another pathetic waste. Lasted as long as Bulkhead's "critical" injury.

Four episodes is about right for a decent-length story arc of a 13-episode season without feeling overbearing or intrusive on other plot threads to come. and with Darkmount out of the way, that means there's something else, something more coming to end the series with. Darkmount was obviously just a red herring.

and Jasper was always a half-demolished ghost-town,

Yeah, watch how long that lasts.

Only if they do a time skip, which doesn't seem fitting for this serialized format that the show currently uses.

and the Autobot base was always a smoldering ruin.

They'll find another base. They technically have already.

It's not just their having a roof over their had that matters. It's the resources, which they now lack a great number of. Primarily, they don't have a space bridge/GroundBridge anymore.

And, if the hangar they were in at the end of episode 56 is gonna be their new base, the Cons can pretty easily deduce that they're based in Washington D.C., making the Bots more vulnerable now that the Cons would know where they are all the time.

[PrymeStriker]

And, if the hangar they were in at the end of episode 56 is gonna be their new base, the Cons can pretty easily deduce that they're based in Washington D.C., making the Bots more vulnerable now that the Cons would know where they are all the time.

Regardless, from the looks of episode 57's promo, that hangar is where they're currently kickin' it. Though, I was sort of referring to Ultra Magnus' ship and briefly the Harbinger.

[Autobot032]

Not going to jump into the entire conversation. It's taking on a life of it's own, but I would like to comment on one thing: Multi-episode arcs.

I have no problem with it being like 3-4 episodes for an arc. I think anything longer than that and you're going too far. Especially in an animated show.

I know a lot of people are reviled by Star Trek: Enterprise, but I was one of that small group of people that did enjoy it. However, I must admit that season 3 was blown and an absolute waste. Some great episodes strewn about, but generally, the entire season was one giant mess and a waste. An absolute waste.

I don't want to see something like that happen to Prime. Or any Transformers show, for that matter. Dragging it out isn't worth it. Stories have a beginning, a middle and an end and dragging it out like they did in Enterprise worked out to be a beginning, a middle....a middle....a middle and oh, finally the end.

I'm not sure Prime has that kind of stamina to hold up under such pressure. I don't know of any show that does.

[Sabrblade]

I FINALLY found the time to look at Vortexx's episode 26 airing. At last, the season 1 finale. It had five edits.

1. Originally, this episode had the following exchange between Fowler and Ratchet:

Fowler: "I can't just sit on my hands while the world spins out of control!"
Ratchet: "And what exactly is it that you intend to do?"
Fowler: "Anything! Hook up with my boys at the Pentagon; figure out a way to bury that monster for good!"
Ratchet: "In the event Optimus can't?"
Fowler: "Don't you mean 'Optimus and Megatron'?"
Ratchet: "No one here is thrilled about this arrangement, Agent Fowler; myself included."

In the edited version, everything underlined above was cut out.

2. Originally, during the Orion Pax/Megatron(us) flashback narrated by Ratchet, there was a shot of a fallen generic Cybertronian with a look of agony on its face that the camera panned away from in a rotating movement to reveal Megatron standing on top of this guy while driving his sword into the victim's chest. As the video continued, flames burst up from the bottom of the screen, engulfing the entire picture as a battle-hardened Decepticon symbol then zoomed forward into view. In the edited version, just as the camera started to pan away from the face of Megatron's victim, the video replayed itself from the start of the pan but with the video zoomed in to focus primarily on Megatron and hide all the carnage and warfare surrounding him in the shot after the pan. The zoomed in video was also seemingly slowed down to keep from showing any of the flames coming up from the bottom of the screen. It then quickly got back into sync with how the flashback originally played by fading into an already mostly completely zoomed in Decepticon symbol with the fire behind it.

3. The new commercial break played when Megatron and Optimus were in Unicron's spark chamber, when Unicron commanded/tried to force Megatron to "Destroy the Prime", right after Megatron stood behind the knelt down Optimus and raised his sword-drawn right arm and tried to resist swinging it down to strike Optimus.

4. When the new commercial break ended, a shot of Optimus from a few seconds before the above-mentioned commercial cut occurred was inserted over a quick second of Megatron with his arm still raised before switching back to the rest of the scene with Megs trying to resist Unicron's control.

5. After Ratchet asks "And... Optimus? Is he...?", Arcee's response of "Dead? No." had its "Dead?" part cut out.


And this coming Saturday will NOT be airing episode 27. Rather, they're instead showing episode 19 (which was SKIPPED previously) as a "bonus episode". Why they didn't just air it in its proper placement is anyone's guess.

[Sabrblade]

Didn't see the following edited post:

Yep.........but Optimus restored rather quickly,

A red herring to throw off suspicion of the real season 2 kickstarter.

and the Iacon Database didn't last outside the second season

Didn't have to. 26 episodes of lasting impact is long enough, and makes season 2 unique in its own right.

as most of the relics we can assume were destroyed (assumption made only because we only saw the Apex Armor be recovered from Cybertron's wreckage; not solid grounds, though).

When Knock Out returned from his searching for the discarded relics on Cybertron, he told Megatron he had found "Somethings... and, someone." Note the plurality of "Somethings".

Which wasn't put to use for 16 episodes, only to be drained of power 9 episodes later.

It's no different than episode 43 introducing Shockwave in advance of his proper use in season 3. Its early introduction foreshadowed its future use.

Plus, when you got an all-magical godly item like that, it feels more special when kept in reserve for special occasional use instead of casually abusing its significance a la the Armada cartoon's Mini-Con weapons.

I would've personally liked for Bulkhead to have returned in the season finale. That would've made his injury last 9 or 10 episodes, a little more than Megatron's stasis lock.

I do like that idea, but then we wouldn't have gotten that very cool Bulkhead vs. Dreadwing battle.

I heard he was returning this season?

Source?

G1 wasn't that great of a series. I'd expect as much.

So the Hate Plague gets a pass but what about the others?

They could've at least expanded on Breakdown & Bulkhead's rivalry instead of leaving that to Takara's toy bios.

Agreed. Even season 1 could have done that.

Hardshell was a joke because he shot Bulkhead, claimed glory (c wut i did thar?), and got killed by a 14-year-old girl, and his victim still survived.

Poetic justice.

Plus, it wasn't just "a 14-year-old girl" who killed him, but "a 14-year-old girl who pushed a button inside a missile-packing space vessel". Take the ship away and Miko would have been the second course to Hardshell's dinner of Jackie.

Besides, Jack (Darby) almost killed Airachnid.

"Outrage" by the fandom.

Not our fault some people just can't understand the character.

Many were also mad at his toy only just coming out so late in the game, coincidentally around the end of his character arc, but the showrunners had no control over the release date of his toy so they can't be faulted for his late release.

They're doing a terrible job of developing characters as of the present.

Starscream's probably the most developed at this point.

I think they're currently focusing on the plot development and want to use the current characters for it.

I'll find it eventually too tired right now.

Take your time.

They didn't touch on them enough and decided to end their arc without doing so.

Agreed. I think they were just supposed to be a "concept" for fanwank (i.e. - "human antagonists") rather than any real characterized entity that mattered outside of plot development.

Even the examples I gave of Meltdown and the Headmaster seemed more fleshed out and characterized than them.

He still didn't get his eye back. Unlike Starscream and Bumblebee who eventually got their missing parts back.

'Guess Breakdown didn't live long enough.

Just goes to show how unimportant and underused (in BOTH seasons) Breakdown was compared to Bee and Screamer.

You have your point. Meh, diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.
Wow, that's a dirty yet boring answer.

[Shadowman]

as most of the relics we can assume were destroyed (assumption made only because we only saw the Apex Armor be recovered from Cybertron's wreckage; not solid grounds, though).

When Knock Out returned from his searching for the discarded relics on Cybertron, he told Megatron he had found "Somethings... and, someone." Note the plurality of "Somethings".

The Star Saber and Forge were both shown in the Trophy Room, and Smokescreen clearly still had the Phase Shifter which he used repeatedly throughout the season premier. The only Artifact shown to be destroyed was the Spark Extractor, there's no reason to assume the others were destroyed.

[PrymeStriker]

Source?

Nevermind, it was another “Stay tuned” thing. I thought someone said something officially about it, or at least they were truly thinking about it, but that was incorrect.

Besides, Jack (Darby) almost killed Airachnid.

Almost only counts in horseshoes.

Starscream's probably the most developed at this point.

Smokescreen has developed quite a bit since his debut, but it probably would’ve been better if he was a season one character like they had originally planned.

[Sabrblade]

Smokescreen has developed quite a bit since his debut, but it probably would’ve been better if he was a season one character like they had originally planned.

Eh, he still seems mostly the same and that's honestly a good thing. He's already likeable, so best to develop him gradually.

Starscream, however, has gone from cautiously going behind Megatron's back, to outright replacing him, to begrudgingly serving him, to being humbled by him, to feeling unwanted by anyone and striking out on his own, to being sympathetic with wanting Ratchet to fix him on occasion, to trying to maintain independence and self-reliance, to feeling confident in himself with the Apex Armor, to feeling vulnerable again after losing it, to being clever with Red Energon helping him get the Omega Keys, to realizing he's nothing without Megatron, to surrendering his fate to Megatron, to sticking by Megatron loyally and genuinely enjoying it, to now trying to maintain his good favor with Megs while being wary of his new rival Shockwave.

Dare I say that he's the most and best developed character in the whole show?

[Shadowman]

Dare I say that he's the most and best developed character in the whole show?

Arcee as well, compare her interactions with Jack early on, to more recent episodes.

[VirusCarnage]

Here is a link for the new intro that they will be using now

[Henry921]

Liked that new opening a lot.


WARNING: TEH SPOILERS, THEY ARE IMMINENT


This was another strong episode, with a great 3-2 battle; Optimus, Bumblebee, and Smokescreen against Shockwave and Soundwave. Worth watching just for the last ten minutes.

Plus a few bits of important info:

Magnus really did command the Wreckers... sort of. It's all kind of vague, but Optimus evidently did put him in charge, and had some sort of run in with Wheeljack before. Still doesn't explain Bulkhead not knowing him, but eh, baby steps. The Aligned continuity snarls take some time.

Ratchet learns Smokescreen could've been a Prime!

Ratchet's still got the formula for Synthetic Energon, and might need it, given how low the stores of Energon are for the 'Bots.

The Predacons were every dragon/monster/whathaveyou ever in human mythology. I find this bit particularly awesome, and it provides an acceptable explanation for Predacons resembling dragons, griffins and the like.

Laserbeak's still alive! Really makes me wonder how sentient he is in this continuity. Whether he's a drone, a mini-con, or some sort of extension of Soundwave himself.

And Megatron doesn't want Shockwave to sortie anymore, so I guess he'll be stuck in the lab most of the season. Potential point of conflict achieved!


There were downsides, however... this episode spent A LOT of time doing full body shots of the new paint jobs and vehicle modes of Smokescreen, Magnus, and Optimus. Gotta sell those toys, I realize, but damn if it didn't last longer than I expected.

[kaijuguy19]

This episode so far is starting to have some future plot points being put down for the future episodes all right.

[Superwheeljack]

Never mind... Is there an image of Magnus vehicle mode? Is it just like the toy?

[VirusCarnage]

Never mind... Is there an image of Magnus vehicle mode? Is it just like the toy?

I will have 1 in about 7 mins as I am downloading the episode now

[VirusCarnage]

Never mind... Is there an image of Magnus vehicle mode? Is it just like the toy?

[Superwheeljack]

Never mind... Is there an image of Magnus vehicle mode? Is it just like the toy?

I will have 1 in about 7 mins as I am downloading the episode now

Is it on YouTube?

[VirusCarnage]

Never mind... Is there an image of Magnus vehicle mode? Is it just like the toy?

I will have 1 in about 7 mins as I am downloading the episode now

Is it on YouTube?

No on TFW2005 they post download links for the episode.

[Superwheeljack]

Never mind... Is there an image of Magnus vehicle mode? Is it just like the toy?

I will have 1 in about 7 mins as I am downloading the episode now

Is it on YouTube?

No on TFW2005 they post download links for the episode.

I got banned so there's no way I can get it.
It's fine, I read the summary on tfwiki so I'm fine until tomorrow.

[PrymeStriker]

New opening = kickass
Optimus' truck mode = kickass
Ultra Magnus' truck mode = no surprise
Smokescreen's paint job = warming up to
Shockwave & Soundwave vs. Bee, Smokey, and Prime = kick ASS
No new Predacons = disappointment (I'll wait)
Whole episode = kickass

I swear, this is the only episode this season I actually liked and was excited for. The whole episode's full of action and awesomeness. Optimus & Ultra Magnus' "kilt" moment was funny, too.

Maybe there's hope for this season yet.

It also clears up Ultra Magnus commanding the Wreckers' little continuity error, and as such I'm satisfied (although it's still a bit of a continuity hole in itself). Speaking of Magnus, his CGI vehicle is much better than the toy's vehicle mode, which doesn't really have front windows.



Optimus' is much better too (in fact, his whole new model is). *sigh* If only we could have show accurate mainline toys of the season three upgrades.

Smokescreen is using the #7 like his Cyberverse toy, now. Looks good-ish.

I'm excited to see Chain of Command & Thirst. The first four episodes put a bad taste in my mouth, but now its pulling me in.