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The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Red 50 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:52 pm

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Considering she throws web like a spider, its obvious that she is a Technoorganic. Wonder if it's gonna be mentioned?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:01 pm

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Red 50 wrote:Considering she throws web like a spider, its obvious that she is a Technoorganic. Wonder if it's gonna be mentioned?


Web shooters don't have to be organic. Spider-Man's weren't, at least outside of the movies.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Twitchythe3rd wrote:So, anyone want to bet the Blackarachnia story from Animated is going to get re-used for Blackar.....I mean "Airachnid" in this weeks episode?


This got me thinking: I don't know the Animated story,but in Beast Wars she was allied (sort of) to Tarantulas' splinter group.
Wild speculatiuon, but with occasional comments from folks that Tarantulas looked like Soundwave, and the existing Prime:Soundwave seeming to be counterscheming directly against Starscream in favor of Megatron, maybe this Airachnid character will become a contributor to Prime:Megatrons return.Just sayin.(I haven't seen the commercial for the episode either,btw).
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby SlyTF1 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:36 pm

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I just saw the episode and it kicked ASS! Major assage! Way better than last week's episode! Best episode EVER! I can't wait to watch it again, unlike with last week's crappy episode. I dreaded the second time that episode aired. It reminded me a lot of Thrill of The Hunt from Animated. Except they replaced Ratchet with Arcee and Arcee with...I forgot who it was. I know it's a familiar name, but I forget.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Red 50 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:37 pm

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Red 50 wrote:Considering she throws web like a spider, its obvious that she is a Technoorganic. Wonder if it's gonna be mentioned?


Web shooters don't have to be organic. Spider-Man's weren't, at least outside of the movies.


So, you think that she's a NORMAL cybertronian with ORGANIC web shooters?

Hmm, actually, that's original.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:37 pm

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-Confirmed: She does NOT share Blackarachnia's backstory. Nor does she share BA's morality conflict, she is straight-up evil bitch.

-And she's goddamn terrifying. Arcee is fine when she knows she's up against Megatron or Starscream, but Airachnid leaves her goddamn terrified.

-Seriously, cold-blooded torture! I don't even remember Megatron engaging in that!

-Hey, Cliffjumper appears in a flashback, but he doesn't speak. Can't afford to bring back the Rock.

-And Jack blows up a Decepticon ship! Awesome.

-None of the other regular Autobots appear, except for Bumblebee, but only in a flashback.

-Also Tailgate! Though we never get a good look at him.

-Ooh, dig that hand-to-hand fighting.

-Airachnid got away, but she's stuck on Earth. So it IS possible she'll join the other Decepticons. She claimed she was working alone now, though, so she may act on her own, like BA.

Red 50 wrote:So, you think that she's a NORMAL cybertronian with ORGANIC web shooters?

Hmm, actually, that's original.


Well, they made no indication that she was organic, nor did they make any indication her webs were, either. (Just because it's gooey, doesn't mean it's organic, once again, Spider-Man didn't have organic webs in the comics)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby crashhcourse » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:53 pm

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Now that's what it's all about.

And see, my dad was right; those boy scout skills really could come in handy when facing an alien threat!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby SlyTF1 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:55 pm

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crashhcourse wrote:Now that's what it's all about.

And see, my dad was right; those boy scout skills really could come in handy when facing an alien threat!


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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Twitchythe3rd » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:09 pm

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I just watched it.

It's Blackarachnia crossed with a Predator! Much better than last weeks episode. They really turned up the creepy factor.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:47 pm

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I'm finally back from work and now I can at last tune in to the latest episode.

Episode 12 -

The opening has a very strong Star Wars feel to it (like the first scene to show up after the scrolling text in each movie).

In addition to Airachnid, we get another new character in this episode: Tailgate.

All these flashbacks we see would have to had taken place at some point after the Great Exodus (in other words, post-WFC/post-Exodus book).

Arcee uses the blades that are on her toy in order break her arm free of Airachnid's webbing. Cool. 8-)

So, it looks like Airachnid is here to stay. How often she will appear, however, remains to be seen.

Next week... no preview again. Darn it.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Janus Prime » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:56 pm

I like the episode and all, but if Airachnid is too dark to be Blackarachnia, why choosing a spider bot? I mean, couldn´t they come up with something new?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:51 am

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Sabrblade wrote:The opening has a very strong Star Wars feel to it (like the first scene to show up after the scrolling text in each movie).


It was actually a bit closer to the movie Predator, which opened with a Predator ship landing in South America.

Janus Prime wrote:I like the episode and all, but if Airachnid is too dark to be Blackarachnia, why choosing a spider bot? I mean, couldn´t they come up with something new?


Because they wanted her to be a Spider but not Blackarachnia.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Scourgescream » Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:28 am

Wow, now that was an episode!! To be honest when i found out it was going to be an Arcee episode my hopes weren't high. Man i was wrong, That could have been the best episode yet.

This is the one they should have come back with instead of the sub par "Speed Metal"

When Jack blew up the ship i was disappointed as i thought they had killed another quality character off but i am glad to see she survived. I hope she pops up on a regular basis.

2nd episode in a row with no Ratchet!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Janus Prime » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:12 am

Shadowman wrote:Because they wanted her to be a Spider but not Blackarachnia.


Yeah, that´s my point. If there´s already a very similar character in the fiction, why going that way? Why not a fem bot called Nightbird that transforms into a Valkyrie or something? why using a concept that was used recently?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:31 am

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Janus Prime wrote:
Shadowman wrote:Because they wanted her to be a Spider but not Blackarachnia.


Yeah, that´s my point. If there´s already a very similar character in the fiction, why going that way? Why not a fem bot called Nightbird that transforms into a Valkyrie or something? why using a concept that was used recently?


Why not? They wanted a new character, so they made a new character.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby crashhcourse » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:32 am

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Parallel continuity.
Also, I would guess Hasbro liked the spider bot/toy concept and suggested bringing it back in some form. ;)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:00 pm

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I gotta say, Predatory is, hands down, the best episode of this series yet. It blows all the previous eleven episodes out of the water and was just sick! I tell ya guys, this was, by far, Transformers: Prime's first "quality episode". 8)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby psj333 » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:16 pm

Recently, a brand new Decepticon character made her debut on Episode #12: Predatory as Airachnid. She has a spider beast mode. Furthermore, part of her name, "Air" and not "Ar" could possibly mean that she could have a flying vehicle mode. Whether she really had a flying vehicle mode or not, I really don't know. However, if she does, what type of vehicle would she be? Oh, by the way, Airachnid is also one of the characters who survived their demises since their debuts, whether they're hurt or not. That means Airachnid will return in a future episode. This will allow us to have a greater chance in examining Airachnid in a much bigger detail about her physical appearance.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:27 pm

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You know, I always wondered, why do you word your posts like that? Like it's a news post or something. Loosen up, you sound way too official.

Second, Airachnid doesn't have a beast mode. Her robot-mode legs simply curl up behind her and her spider-legs do the walking. I guess it has something to do with differences in mobility.

I seriously doubt she'd have an aerial-based alt-mode, since that would completely ruin the spider-theme they set up. That would be like introducing Springer, giving him helicopter-kibble, have him talk about how much he likes flying, then having him transform into a bicycle.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:47 pm

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Shadowman wrote:You know, I always wondered, why do you word your posts like that? Like it's a news post or something. Loosen up, you sound way too official.
And how!

Shadowman wrote:Second, Airachnid doesn't have a beast mode. Her robot-mode legs simply curl up behind her and her spider-legs do the walking. I guess it has something to do with differences in mobility.
Actually, I'd think that her "walks on spider legs" mode could be considered her altmode, just that it could be one of an alien species that resembles a humanoid spider.

Sure her "transformation" is simplistic (robot legs retreat into hindquarters, twist hindquarters around & raise up, and extend spider legs from out of her back to full length), but existent nonetheless.

Shadowman wrote:I seriously doubt she'd have an aerial-based alt-mode, since that would completely ruin the spider-theme they set up. That would be like introducing Springer, giving him helicopter-kibble, have him talk about how much he likes flying, then having him transform into a bicycle.
Unless we get a reason for her "Air" sounding name, I'd simply chalk up her name to begin a simple case of "Because poor literacy is kewl!" :P
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Janus Prime » Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:45 pm

Shadowman wrote:Why not? They wanted a new character, so they made a new character.


Taking a character and giving him or her a different name is not creating a new one, not in my book at least.
All and all I think it´s weird, but what ever, each episode is better than the previous one, that´s the important thing... still waiting for the show to get really good though.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Twitchythe3rd » Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:52 pm

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Janus Prime wrote:
Shadowman wrote:Why not? They wanted a new character, so they made a new character.


Taking a character and giving him or her a different name is not creating a new one, not in my book at least.
All and all I think it´s weird, but what ever, each episode is better than the previous one, that´s the important thing... still waiting for the show to get really good though.


While Airachnid may share traits with Blackarachnia, she is not Blackarachnia.

Just because it's a lady spider, does not mean it has to be Blackarachnia every single time.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:00 pm

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Janus Prime wrote:Taking a character and giving him or her a different name is not creating a new one, not in my book at least.


Different name, different design, different alt-mode, different personality, different motives, different background...
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:49 am

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The only things Airachnid has in common with Blackarachnia are her spider legs and gender. Everything else is new and different.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Red 50 » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:11 am

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I think i'm with those who think that Airachnid was in the Alt-mode when in her partial spider form.
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