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News Credits: 293 · Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:46 pm

Oswald Cobopot wrote:You'll get no complaint from me about blue Blue for #1. Even if he is sitting on Star Saber's lap.

Great list! Fun read. Nice job Jak!

Naw naw. They're walking hand in hand towards the sunset

And thanks

Sat Jan 09, 2016 6:37 pm

I love these top 5 lists! I love getting other people's favorites.

I do have one issue. Blue Grimlock over correct, black Grimlock? No.

Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:49 pm

Deathsanras wrote:
Lastly, why does almost every description of MP-18B describe it as a redeco/remold of MP-18, when it's clearly MP-17 Prowl with the lightbar omitted?

Because MP-18 has a different crotch and head then Prowl.

News Credits: 4877 · Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:59 pm

Microraptor wrote:
Deathsanras wrote:
Lastly, why does almost every description of MP-18B describe it as a redeco/remold of MP-18, when it's clearly MP-17 Prowl with the lightbar omitted?

Because MP-18 has a different crotch and head then Prowl.

And plus, it's what his name/number insinuates.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:45 pm

My only complaints from the list are that I struggle with Grimlock's size now that bot scale is such an important thing in MP. I really want them to give him a second shot that's less like the original toy and more like the animation version and closer to UM or Star Saber's size. I doubt we'll see that anytime soon. Other spot where we differ is I don't think Bee really compares to other MPs. Don't get me wrong, I have both the regular and G2 versions, it's a great figure in its own right, but for me not one of the greatest MPs. I don't really care for his backpack or the way the bumper interferes with the transformation and how it should be removed to close it all the way. I also don't like the kibble on his forearms. Sure, they could only do so much with a realistic Beetle, but there are better MPs out there that didn't need to make compromises.

Personally I think Prowl is the best of the cars. He's a perfect blend of the original figure and the animation style with a great looking alt mode and one of the best bot modes we've seen. He folds up flawlessly in both molds and doesn't suffer from leftover parts stuck to his arms or legs like Wheeljack and Bumblebee. Honestly I'd place him as a contender for number one on my own list, but I think Shockwave is going to snag that one in a few months.

I do agree that Star Saber is one of the top figures. He is so well made that he doesn't even look like he should be able to transform. My one complaint is the odd arm joints, but even that isn't so bad. Every fan of giant robots should own one, not just Transformers fans.

Emerje

News Credits: 11 · Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:49 pm

I think the coolest thing about this list is how far we've come since MP1 first came out. Back in the day, there was Prime, White Prime, Dead Prime, Magnus Prime, Nemesis Prime, 5 different Starscreams (Can anyone name all 5?), and Megatron.

Then Came Grimlock, who started us all off on a whole different route, and basically restarted the whole thing. I mean, sure, MP 2.0 officially started with MP 11 - Prime redux, but really, it was Big Grim that set us the new size. And since then, we've gotten some absolutely amazing toys. Repaints and some minor remolds just come with the equation, but the point is just how much incredible stuff we've been getting.

While I am not a completionist, I do have at least one of each mold. Each one has its strengths (yes, even Rodimus), whether it be an amazing leg transformation (Corvettes, Fairladies), a brilliant arm change (Magnus), a stack of great accessories (G2 Sideswipe, Exhaust, Blue-streak, Star Saber), a beautiful paint job (G2 Bee, BlueStreak, Tracks), a wonderfully authentic manga adaptation (everyone!), or some subtly beautiful remods (Road Rage, Exhaust, MP 11 molds), we've been getting just wonderful toys.

All told, I don't envy having to make this list, because in all honesty, I personally am totally unable to make this list. I really do love every single one, and from day to day, my interests change, forcing me to love each for different reasons, and to rank this one over the others. The best part of it all is that tomorrow, I get to pick a new one to love and heap my attention on.

Masterpiece forever!

News Credits: 3 · Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:37 pm

Is it intentional that there are 2 figures in #1??? :???:

News Credits: 60 · Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:41 pm

SillySpringer wrote:Is it intentional that there are 2 figures in #1???

The source couldn't make up his mind. Happens all the time. But if this was a Highlander slam bang finish.....there can be only ONE! :lol:

News Credits: 1 · Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:03 am

Odd. After seeing this. My brother messages me and tells me a guy he works with a a shop has this very same starscream.
Needless too say I am happy with my purchase (:

I personally don't see the mp-3 mold being outdated(same with mp-1)
The Grey colors really work with the realistic jet mode. I have m mp-11 and mp-3 being displayed together!!

Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:35 am

Deathsanras wrote:
Lastly, why does almost every description of MP-18B describe it as a redeco/remold of MP-18, when it's clearly MP-17 Prowl with the lightbar omitted?

Because he is MP-18 Streak with Prowl's head?
8-}

Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:34 am

What's the point of making a top 5 if you are going to put two items as the winner?

You might as well make it a top 6 then. There is no point in making a top 5 if you can't choose the superior toy.

News Credits: 226 · Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:42 am

DMSL wrote:What's the point of making a top 5 if you are going to put two items as the winner?

You might as well make it a top 6 then. There is no point in making a top 5 if you can't choose the superior toy.

Would you care to list your Top 5 then?

News Credits: 293 · Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:38 pm

DMSL wrote:What's the point of making a top 5 if you are going to put two items as the winner?

You might as well make it a top 6 then. There is no point in making a top 5 if you can't choose the superior toy.

My reasoning for #1 being a tie, is I was trying to make it relatable. StarSaber is a marvel to behold, but due to his obscurity to us westerners many have not experienced him. As others have said, you need to handle one to fully appreciate it. But putting giving the #1 spot to something that very few of my audience owns might cause some discourse. So outside of that, the Datsun's (and more specifically blue Blue) I find are the most impressive MP's, and there's even been two of them released stateside.

News Credits: 293 · Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:38 pm

Optimutt wrote:I think the coolest thing about this list is how far we've come since MP1 first came out.

Ain't that the truth. I recall when the MP line started we were lucky to get 1 each year, and you're right it was usually something like a white Magnus Prime. We still get things like that, but they're more supplements and don't intrude on the release of new molds for the most part.

Optimutt wrote:Then Came Grimlock, who started us all off on a whole different route, and basically restarted the whole thing. I mean, sure, MP 2.0 officially started with MP 11 - Prime redux,

Hate to break your balls, but redux Prime was MP10. And while Grim did start us down the road to smaller MP's, he doesn't fit the current scale started with MP10 (or you could argue MP09).

Optimutt wrote:All told, I don't envy having to make this list, because in all honesty, I personally am totally unable to make this list.

To be honest, I'm surprised how I'm not getting any flack for leaving out for leaving out Wheeljack :lol:

News Credits: 22 · Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:55 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:I agree with the list except for #1. For me, MP-10 should be #1 all the way. Optimus is perfect in every ways, with a perfect vehicle mode and bot mode. Also came with the trailer and everything.

You're welcome. :-P

As for this thread, perhaps the title should be amended with "so far" added on the end, as this line is nowhere near over, and seems to be only getting better.

That said, my top 5, so far, in no particular order:

Soundwave (perfection)
MP-01 Optimus Prime (yes, I like it better than MP-10, the robot mode is superior IMO, which is how I display them)
Grimlock (I prefer MP-08X, but either version is good)
MP-11 (another near-, if not perfect mold)
MP-09 (yes, everyone hates him but me. I got lucky with mine, he's still in 1 piece after multiple transformations)

Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:30 pm

it's funny.. this list almost totally defies the entire point of the masterpiece line.

News Credits: 101 · Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:46 pm

TimothyR wrote:it's funny.. this list almost totally defies the entire point of the masterpiece line.

What do you mean?

News Credits: 293 · Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:57 pm

TimothyR wrote:it's funny.. this list almost totally defies the entire point of the masterpiece line.

Rodimus Prime wrote:MP-09 (yes, everyone hates him but me. I got lucky with mine, he's still in 1 piece after multiple transformations)

Sometimes I wonder. If Roddy was free of QC problems, would there be so much hate? Design wise I've always loved him.

Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:53 pm

If you completely reversed the order of the list and the honourable mentions then I'd be on board. Ultra Magnus has such a brilliant design. Similarly Wheeljack and MP-10 are amazing.

I don't understand all the love for Star Saber. He does look cool and I'm glad I've got him but the transformation is simplistic. They could've done a lot more with Saber's big solid back and I'm not a fan of how you've got to pull bits off and put them back on in different places.

We obviously value very different aspects of a Masterpiece figure.

News Credits: 4 · Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:12 pm

MP 10 all the way, for re energizing the line even before anyone realized it needed a boost!

News Credits: 22 · Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:33 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
TimothyR wrote:it's funny.. this list almost totally defies the entire point of the masterpiece line.
What do you mean?

He means that this being the "Masterpiece" line, they should all be equally as good. Hence the "Masterpiece" title.

However, I believe that in this line, the pieces are only the best versions of themselves, so if the animation design on which they were based sucked to begin with, then the figure will suck as well, masterpiece or not.

News Credits: 4877 · Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:40 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
TimothyR wrote:it's funny.. this list almost totally defies the entire point of the masterpiece line.
What do you mean?
He means that this being the "Masterpiece" line, they should all be equally as good. Hence the "Masterpiece" title.

However, I believe that in this line, the pieces are only the best versions of themselves, so if the animation design on which they were based sucked to begin with, then the figure will suck as well, masterpiece or not.

Well there's that, but there's also this:

Transformers Masterpiece Megatron (MP-05) Gallery

News Credits: 60 · Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:43 pm

shajaki wrote:
Optimutt wrote:I think the coolest thing about this list is how far we've come since MP1 first came out.
Ain't that the truth. I recall when the MP line started we were lucky to get 1 each year, and you're right it was usually something like a white Magnus Prime. We still get things like that, but they're more supplements and don't intrude on the release of new molds for the most part.

Optimutt wrote:Then Came Grimlock, who started us all off on a whole different route, and basically restarted the whole thing. I mean, sure, MP 2.0 officially started with MP 11 - Prime redux,
Hate to break your balls, but redux Prime was MP10. And while Grim did start us down the road to smaller MP's, he doesn't fit the current scale started with MP10 (or you could argue MP09).

Optimutt wrote:All told, I don't envy having to make this list, because in all honesty, I personally am totally unable to make this list.
To be honest, I'm surprised how I'm not getting any flack for leaving out for leaving out Wheeljack

I took offense for WJs non inclusion :-P

News Credits: 60 · Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:48 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
TimothyR wrote:it's funny.. this list almost totally defies the entire point of the masterpiece line.
What do you mean?
He means that this being the "Masterpiece" line, they should all be equally as good. Hence the "Masterpiece" title.

However, I believe that in this line, the pieces are only the best versions of themselves, so if the animation design on which they were based sucked to begin with, then the figure will suck as well, masterpiece or not.

Well there's that, but there's also this:

Transformers Masterpiece Megatron (MP-05) Gallery

To be fair, Takara ordered the designer (same dude who did MP Star Saber (pardon the double entendre)) just about a month or so to design him. Emphasis on the same dude who also designed MP Starsaber.

Same mind different result.'cause the corporate slugs were high on "green energon" and forced MP-05 too early.