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Speaking of which...My apologies if this quesiton seems a bit absurd, but I havent purchased a TF at standard retail in a while. Since SS and AotP share the same packaging now...are they being shipped together? The reason I ask is I've experienced a similar situation at 3 different walmarts in my area. Each of the 3 had about 8 of the TF One BB's, 8 of the Devastation Primes,and One AotP Wasp. No Aerialbits or Solus at all.

o.supreme wrote:Speaking of which...My apologies if this quesiton seems a bit absurd, but I havent purchased a TF at standard retail in a while. Since SS and AotP share the same packaging now...are they being shipped together? The reason I ask is I've experienced a similar situation at 3 different walmarts in my area. Each of the 3 had about 8 of the TF One BB's, 8 of the Devastation Primes,and One AotP Wasp. No Aerialbits or Solus at all.

Prime and Bee are in solid cases of their own, that's why you're seeing so many of each of them. They're the 2025 A Level releases like TFOne Prime and SS86 Bumblebee last year. You'll be seeing them on shelves all year. Wasp just isn't as popular as the rest of the PotP figures so he's usually the last to go.

Emerje

^Thank you. Makes sense. I just didnt know if with the new reduced amount of product hasbro is putting out if they are shipping sublines together now?

With there being 4 deluxes is the case breakdown just 2 of each (4x2=8) or is there 3 of one, and one short packed?

I finally got Solus Prime and Prima Prime. Both are great in bot mode, but their vehicle mode looks incomplete with gaps exposed limbs. Plus, both of their transformations were quite fiddly. Let's hope the other Primes will be better.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I finally got Solus Prime and Prima Prime. Both are great in bot mode, but their vehicle mode looks incomplete with gaps exposed limbs. Plus, both of their transformations were quite fiddly. Let's hope the other Primes will be better.

I found them both a little fiddly the first time around but also found them much easier the second time through one I already know where everything was supposed to end up.

o.supreme wrote:^Thank you. Makes sense. I just didnt know if with the new reduced amount of product hasbro is putting out if they are shipping sublines together now?

With there being 4 deluxes is the case breakdown just 2 of each (4x2=8) or is there 3 of one, and one short packed?

They're each in their own solid case.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

o.supreme wrote:^Thank you. Makes sense. I just didnt know if with the new reduced amount of product hasbro is putting out if they are shipping sublines together now?

With there being 4 deluxes is the case breakdown just 2 of each (4x2=8) or is there 3 of one, and one short packed?

They're each in their own solid case.

Emerje

I think o.supreme was asking about the AotP deluxes (Slingshot, Air Raid, Wasp and Solus Prime), which are an even 2x per case with nobody shortpacked. Devastation Prime and TF One Bee are solid cases themselves.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

o.supreme wrote:^Thank you. Makes sense. I just didnt know if with the new reduced amount of product hasbro is putting out if they are shipping sublines together now?

With there being 4 deluxes is the case breakdown just 2 of each (4x2=8) or is there 3 of one, and one short packed?

They're each in their own solid case.

Emerje

I think o.supreme was asking about the AotP deluxes (Slingshot, Air Raid, Wasp and Solus Prime), which are an even 2x per case with nobody shortpacked. Devastation Prime and TF One Bee are solid cases themselves.

Oh, that makes more sense. I misread and thought he was asking if Prime and Bee were 4 each in a case together.

Emerje

I'm too lazy for a picture, but Megatronus A.K.A The Fallen may be one of the best leader I got in a while.

He's not huge, but he's massive and dense with no hollow parts. The transformation is smooth and he feel solid in all modes. The shoulder flames are not the most secure, but this may be the whole figure's only flaw. I'm looking forward to Onyx.

The Primes are coming along nicely. I even have the impostor. Also, Nova Prime got promoted to Commander Class with the DNA Design upgrade kit. I just miss for the Reprolabels update for him, and the repros for the rest.

Correct me if I am mistaken, but of the 13 primes, there are only 4 we haven't seen any design for (other than the AoP poster art):

Liege Maximo, Quintus Prime, Amalgamous Prime, & Nexus Prime

I was just thinking about this last night. It is great we are getting proper toys of the 13, but the only one that really interests me is Nexus because of the Combiner aspect. I was thinking he might be revealed as a Commander Class toy for 2026. He could be designed in the same way as Legacy MM or AoP Silverbolt. basically to be a skeleton for an all new combiner. But in some way (kind of like Combiner Wars), he could mix-and-match different combiner parts to make his own combiner. Obviously because of the design used since Legacy there would be limitations: legs could only be legs, and arms could only be arms, but his design would have the freedom to incorporate whichever ones someone wanted.

I think it would be kind of cool. Hasbro I'm sure wants to try to make at least one Prime at every Price Point, and this seems to fit.

o.supreme wrote:Correct me if I am mistaken, but of the 13 primes, there are only 4 we haven't seen any design for (other than the AoP poster art):

Liege Maximo, Quintus Prime, Amalgamous Prime, & Nexus Prime

I was just thinking about this last night. It is great we are getting proper toys of the 13, but the only one that really interests me is Nexus because of the Combiner aspect. I was thinking he might be revealed as a Commander Class toy for 2026. He could be designed in the same way as Legacy MM or AoP Silverbolt. basically to be a skeleton for an all new combiner. But in some way (kind of like Combiner Wars), he could mix-and-match different combiner parts to make his own combiner. Obviously because of the design used since Legacy there would be limitations: legs could only be legs, and arms could only be arms, but his design would have the freedom to incorporate whichever ones someone wanted.

I think it would be kind of cool. Hasbro I'm sure wants to try to make at least one Prime at every Price Point, and this seems to fit.

Nexus is a Voyager.

^Well that's unfortunate. Unless his combiner gimmick is going to harken back to CW/UW/Potp, which I seriously doubt. Would be kind of odd that the Prime of Combiners wouldn't be combining with anything. I guess another option is, as a voyager he could be just a parts-former ala Trashmaster.

o.supreme wrote:Correct me if I am mistaken, but of the 13 primes, there are only 4 we haven't seen any design for (other than the AoP poster art):

Liege Maximo, Quintus Prime, Amalgamous Prime, & Nexus Prime

Have we seen Alpha Trion?

^I thought it was just to be a repaint of the Legacy (SS Scourge Retool) version.

o.supreme wrote:^I thought it was just to be a repaint of the Legacy (SS Scourge Retool) version.

It was confirmed by Evan Brooks that all thirteen Primes other than Vector Prime will get a new mold in the AotP line, with Vector getting a re-release (or potentially even repaint) of his Legacy figure

I'm getting "purple Vector Prime" vibes from that poster art.

o.supreme wrote:^Well that's unfortunate. Unless his combiner gimmick is going to harken back to CW/UW/Potp, which I seriously doubt. Would be kind of odd that the Prime of Combiners wouldn't be combining with anything. I guess another option is, as a voyager he could be just a parts-former ala Trashmaster.

I think he'll be different little vehicles that combine without individual robot modes. If you look closely at the statue picture he isn't symmetrical and has random wheels.

Emerje

Glyph wrote:Kind of surprised they didn't follow up the beast mode from TF:One, to be honest.

I'm guessing that they did this to keep Onyx as the "beast Prime" for this line

Sabrblade wrote:I'm getting "purple Vector Prime" vibes from that poster art.

They do look similar, but from what Evan said, each of the Primes (other than Vector himself) is slated to be a new mold.

Though this wouldn't be the first time that Alpha Trion was a remold of Vector, so it could happen.

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:Though this wouldn't be the first time that Alpha Trion was a remold of Vector, so it could happen.

Of course, the first time it happened turned out to be the SG version of the character as a surprise twist reveal, and it only happened that first time because BotCon at the time was limited to using pre-existing molds repainted with or without new heads, unlike Hasbro proper who can create all the new molds that they want.

Sabrblade wrote:Of course, the first time it happened turned out to be the SG version of the character as a surprise twist reveal, and it only happened that first time because BotCon at the time was limited to using pre-existing molds repainted with or without new heads, unlike Hasbro proper who can create all the new molds that they want.

This got me looking over Alpha Trion's entry on Tfwiki. I had no idea that the first widely-available G1 Alpha Trion toy was the Legacy toy in 2022, almost 40 years after the character debuted.

Of course, this is excluding the legends toys that barely resemble the character that came with Sovereign and Ultra Magnus

Beyond that, the first widely-available Alpha Trion toy G1 or otherwise only released three years earlier in 2019 with the Cyberverse line