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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:29 am

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I'm not really into steelbooks, I just try to get whichever version has the most actual content. Target's TLK BRD was the only version that included Machinima's CW. I'm hoping at least one release of BB will have TR & PotP included. Yeah I know these series are horrible, still I'd like to have them in some format for the sake of completion.

So...no word on bonus content yet I assume, since we dont even have a release date.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:43 am

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o.supreme wrote:boxofficemojo.com reflects 367M, as of this weekend (109M Domestic, 258M foreign)**this total has been updated since I initially posted earlier

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?i ... rmers6.htm


One week later BMO has it at 117M domestic & 296M foreign= WW 413M (Budget X3=405M)

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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby 15ngcs1 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:28 pm

o.supreme wrote:
o.supreme wrote:boxofficemojo.com reflects 367M, as of this weekend (109M Domestic, 258M foreign)**this total has been updated since I initially posted earlier

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?i ... rmers6.htm


One week later BMO has it at 117M domestic & 296M foreign= WW 413M (Budget X3=405M)

NOW
it is officially profitable :-D


Great to hear that!
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:03 am

This video has been popping up and seems legit/legal like a promotion for the release in asian markets. So dont see why I culdnt post it here, enjoy the best parts of the BB movie!


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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby 15ngcs1 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:47 am

william-james88 wrote:This video has been popping up and seems legit/legal like a promotion for the release in asian markets. So dont see why I culdnt post it here, enjoy the best parts of the BB movie!




got goosebumps again!
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:37 pm

After finally seeing the movie about a week ago (I loved it, it was everything I hoped it would be), I kinda got the desire to see what this movie's Bumblebee robot mode design would look like with the other movie Bumblebee vehicle modes/parts like how they did with the 76 Camaro; main desire is to see it with the black with yellow accents 67 Camaro from AOE, but any of the modern Camaros would be cool too.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby ImperiousRexS2K » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:36 am

So excited at how well the movie is doing both in the states and abroad! Can't wait to see what it will do in Japan and hopefully they greenlight a sequel soon!
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Bumblebee Theatrical Run Extended in China

Postby RobRobRobRobRob » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:17 pm

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While Bumblebee’s US theatrical run may be winding down, we have word that Bumblebee will journey on on a foreign shore familiar to many Transformer fans: China. Taken directly from the China Box Office Twitter, Bumblebee has been renewed for showings until March 2nd.

For those unfamiliar with Chinese regulations, most foreign films are restricted to about a month in theaters. To have Bumblebee extended required the studio's filing of an official request to Chinese authorities. This is an apparent first in the Transformers franchise, seeing as most records indicate no other Transformers film has ran in China long enough to substantiate a renewal. With the extension, Bumblebee’s run will last 57 days in total, dwarfing The Last Knight and Age of Extinction's runs of 31 and 35 days respectively.

With Bumblebee grossing the least of all Paramount's films, and with overseas revenue tending to be more lucrative than domestic, this extension may be the push Bumblebee needs to catch up with its predecessors.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:22 pm

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Well first of all I'm surprised that neither AoE nor TLK got an extension like this, considering Chinese involvement in those films. Or maybe it's like you said, Bumblebee is not doing as well as those movies did financially.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:36 am

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Actually I think aoe and tlk would have got similar extensions if they were released at the same time that bee was. I think paramount will be happy with the money it's made compared to how much it cost so I don't think that's the reason at all
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:05 am

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Ultimately it is a shame. If this film had been the first live action Transformers, I think this would have been extremely well received. Sadly the oversaturation of Bayformers may have poisoned the well, so to speak.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:43 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Ultimately it is a shame. If this film had been the first live action Transformers, I think this would have been extremely well received. Sadly the oversaturation of Bayformers may have poisoned the well, so to speak.
Or maybe people didn't like it because it wasn't as great as some fans think it was.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:49 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Ultimately it is a shame. If this film had been the first live action Transformers, I think this would have been extremely well received. Sadly the oversaturation of Bayformers may have poisoned the well, so to speak.
Or maybe people didn't like it because it wasn't as great as some fans think it was.



"Greatness" is subjective. As a Decepticon fan, ALL Transformers films, baring '86, have been a series of perpetually huge disappointments. Without mentioning the bizarre fetishising of Prime and Bumblebee.

Nevertheless It is better than Bayformers, although that isn't a particularly high standard to begin with. A friend who is a non-Transformers fan went to see Bumblebee and he enjoyed it. In summation, his final words on the film were "it was a Transformers film not made by a sexual predator" :lol:
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:57 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Ultimately it is a shame. If this film had been the first live action Transformers, I think this would have been extremely well received. Sadly the oversaturation of Bayformers may have poisoned the well, so to speak.
Or maybe people didn't like it because it wasn't as great as some fans think it was.
Nevertheless It is better than Bayformers
Like you said about "greatness," "better" is also subjective. You think it was better than Bayformers. I don't. That's the good thing about opinions. We can have different ones. This movie is the first TF film I don't care to ever see again. And going by the box office, I'm not the only one. I'm not saying it's horrible, but I don't think it was good. The story and character development was on par with Bayverse, but it was missing the big action pieces. I wouldn't have minded that if the story was better.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:12 pm

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I saw the first Bayformers twice, the second once and the third likewise, before tapping out. Never gone back to them, never bought them on DVD or the toys etc Because I don't support things I don't like, even within a series that I do. The emphasis on humans, shows the creators behind Bayformers don't get what Transformers is. By the same token, over-humanising Transformers in IDW demonstrated the same thing to me, hence why I turned my back on that too.

Transformers is not rocket science to get right. But when you use the very core of the series as a backdrop, you are being disingenuous in what you are making.

The story for Bumblebee was a simple one, not award winning by any means. An origin story, clearly skirting the line between Hard and Soft Reboot, before they cowardly back-peddled out of the idea completely. But it is less focused on superficial spectacle (and flaunting Bay's Jingoistic nonsense) than tell a story, which is one mark that in particular, that puts it above Bayformers.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:18 pm

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Thing is paramount never said it was anything but a prequel, it was us fans that always brought on the speculation about its status. I mean it's not like tf designs didn't radically change from one installment to another already... (amarda -> Energon -> Cybertron, Prime -> Rid 2015, all of IDW practically) Knight thought he could change the looks and still get away with it being a prequel.

Also re: humans in the franchise, it all depends on the story you want to tell, if its just a war story the humans (other then celebrity voices as Studios want star power in the film somewhere... And no, the brand is not that kind of star power) will not be required. Doing a "in disguise" type of story then yeah, you need humans, there's a balance to strike.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:28 pm

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I'm not even talking about what other people call it,that's largely irrelevant. To me, watching Bumblebee, it came across in it's execution as a Reboot. A Directorial change was that much of a breath of fresh air, in my view.

When it comes to humans, that balance is rarely struck. If one in five scenes of your film is on humans and not Transformers, in their titular film, it is not a Transformers film. By the same token if Transformers don't transform for the majority of your story, they are not Transformers. They are colourful generic robots ala latter IDWverse.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:43 pm

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But that's only by your standards and definitions, not Hasbros or Paramounts. Also I would love it if the movies went more like IDW with characters and concepts, I still have hope that one day Hasbro will do a DC and start putting out direct to disc/stream animated movies based on IDW arcs or other past comic arcs that warrant the work.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:49 pm

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I'm an individual, not some faceless conglomerate, I have no interest in tailoring my own experience to the views of such people.

Indeed. I think Megatron: Origin, the -Ations and LSoTW would make great animated movies. Even Maximum Dinobots, with a little tweaking, would be entertaining to see in motion.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:55 pm

What's Crackin'? wrote:I remember sending you guys a message about this almost a week ago. Damn.

You and others sent this our way, it just took a while to get to it.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:12 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:I still have hope that one day Hasbro will do a DC and start putting out direct to disc/stream animated movies based on IDW arcs or other past comic arcs that warrant the work.


I've been saying this as well. Except I wouldn't want them to be limited to IDW content, as I'm not really the biggest fan of IDW, a couple stories here-and-there maybe, but there are over 30 years of lore from various other animated series, and comics to draw from.

As much as I enjoy the DC animated films that come out at the rate of 3 per-year, one of the biggest weaknesses IMHO is that they have an ongoing narrative based on New 52. They do break form this at times, which is great, but the new 52 stuff has been pretty *meh*. Death of Superman & Reign of the Supermen would have been SO MUCH BETTER if they had kept the original story/setting, and not tried to tie it to the New 52 version.

The same could be said for Transformers. Give us some new stories set in the original Sunbow animated continuity. Some Japanese stories, something from Marvel Comics, Dreamwave, Beast Wars, IDW...etc... a little form each would be great over time.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:55 pm

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o.supreme wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I still have hope that one day Hasbro will do a DC and start putting out direct to disc/stream animated movies based on IDW arcs or other past comic arcs that warrant the work.


I've been saying this as well. Except I wouldn't want them to be limited to IDW content, as I'm not really the biggest fan of IDW, a couple stories here-and-there maybe, but there are over 30 years of lore from various other animated series, and comics to draw from.

As much as I enjoy the DC animated films that come out at the rate of 3 per-year, one of the biggest weaknesses IMHO is that they have an ongoing narrative based on New 52. They do break form this at times, which is great, but the new 52 stuff has been pretty *meh*. Death of Superman & Reign of the Supermen would have been SO MUCH BETTER if they had kept the original story/setting, and not tried to tie it to the New 52 version.

The same could be said for Transformers. Give us some new stories set in the original Sunbow animated continuity. Some Japanese stories, something from Marvel Comics, Dreamwave, Beast Wars, IDW...etc... a little form each would be great over time.

That's more what I was getting at with past comic arcs, though would they be able to touch the dreamwave stuff? Does the rights to the DW material revert to IDW when they got the licence?

Also I assumed the death of supes was the original story retold, had no idea it was based of a new 52 thing.

Back to Bee though, I don't understand why people keep assuming it's because it hasn't made enough money as its profitable now and there's still Japan to go. We're getting close to Chinese New year afterall...
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