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Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

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william-james88 wrote:That head is still wrong then since they didnt even paint the top silver, so now that SDCC version represents no interpretation of the character :HEADHURTS:

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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:31 pm

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still, the audience you are attracting with that head sculpt and paint job becomes more and more niche by the second.
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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:37 pm

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william-james88 wrote:still, the audience you are attracting with that head sculpt and paint job becomes more and more niche by the second.

So, wait, a lack of silver paint on the forehead is keeping you from buying a figure we have been clamoring for forever? Sounds to me like it's not the toy that has issues :lol:
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:14 pm

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william-james88 wrote:still, the audience you are attracting with that head sculpt and paint job becomes more and more niche by the second.

So, wait, a lack of silver paint on the forehead is keeping you from buying a figure we have been clamoring for forever? Sounds to me like it's not the toy that has issues :lol:


Your comment assumed SDCC is our only option which it isnt. What I am saying is that with a Hasbro version available, wooing your audience into buying a more expensive one aint gonna happen when the cheaper version has the more accurate headsculpt and actual paint on it. Are you saying you will buy the SDCC version? You arent and I caught that. So please catch what I am trying to say too instead of putting words in my mouth, I dont care if you were joking.
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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:34 pm

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brokenchopstick wrote:Looks like even Hasbro were confused about Mixmaster's new 'front discharge' configuration...

Guys, you had one job.

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The Hasbro version is a little shaky backwards since they didn't paint the details aside from the black windows and stacks, but the Takara Tomy version should look pretty good backwards with all the truck details painted in.

I think Seibertron should run a poll to see if people prefer the retail or SDCC version of Devastator most since it seems to be less about price and difficulty and more about aesthetic choices.

My choice is definitely retail, I don't think I've ever been more disappointed in an SDCC exclusive.

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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:56 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:still, the audience you are attracting with that head sculpt and paint job becomes more and more niche by the second.

So, wait, a lack of silver paint on the forehead is keeping you from buying a figure we have been clamoring for forever? Sounds to me like it's not the toy that has issues :lol:


Your comment assumed SDCC is our only option which it isnt. What I am saying is that with a Hasbro version available, wooing your audience into buying a more expensive one aint gonna happen when the cheaper version has the more accurate headsculpt and actual paint on it. Are you saying you will buy the SDCC version? You arent and I caught that. So please catch what I am trying to say too instead of putting words in my mouth, I dont care if you were joking.

No, I noticed that too, I found it really funny; putting the 2 side by side really brought out a lot of weird stuff in the deco. If I get any version, it will be the TT version. I was merely pointing out that stuff like the forehead do keep people from buying something that they've wanted forever.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:01 pm

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Emerje wrote:
brokenchopstick wrote:Looks like even Hasbro were confused about Mixmaster's new 'front discharge' configuration...

Guys, you had one job.

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The Hasbro version is a little shaky backwards since they didn't paint the details aside from the black windows and stacks, but the Takara Tomy version should look pretty good backwards with all the truck details painted in.


Eh... those aren't windows. Those are the vents for the engine that rotates the drum. It's not a second cab.
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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:06 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:still, the audience you are attracting with that head sculpt and paint job becomes more and more niche by the second.

So, wait, a lack of silver paint on the forehead is keeping you from buying a figure we have been clamoring for forever? Sounds to me like it's not the toy that has issues :lol:


Your comment assumed SDCC is our only option which it isnt. What I am saying is that with a Hasbro version available, wooing your audience into buying a more expensive one aint gonna happen when the cheaper version has the more accurate headsculpt and actual paint on it. Are you saying you will buy the SDCC version? You arent and I caught that. So please catch what I am trying to say too instead of putting words in my mouth, I dont care if you were joking.

No, I noticed that too, I found it really funny; putting the 2 side by side really brought out a lot of weird stuff in the deco. If I get any version, it will be the TT version. I was merely pointing out that stuff like the forehead do keep people from buying something that they've wanted forever.


Its a good thing those people who wanted it forever have a choice in the version they want. A more apt feature to comment on would have been the elbows. How much are the elbows worth to people (including me). We will find out when it's on preorder. I am personally hoping for 175$ US or under at amiami.
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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:48 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:No, I noticed that too, I found it really funny; putting the 2 side by side really brought out a lot of weird stuff in the deco. If I get any version, it will be the TT version. I was merely pointing out that stuff like the forehead do keep people from buying something that they've wanted forever.


Its a good thing those people who wanted it forever have a choice in the version they want. A more apt feature to comment on would have been the elbows. How much are the elbows worth to people (including me). We will find out when it's on preorder. I am personally hoping for 175$ US or under at amiami.

I'm guessing it will very well received. From the comments I've read, every person who even considers displaying them separately are waiting to see what the price will be.

Personally I would be willing to pay an additional $50 for a PREMIUM paint job, just see TT's Devastator just dripping in painted details, like a Behr store just sneezed on it :shock:
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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:57 pm

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Emerje wrote:The Hasbro version is a little shaky backwards since they didn't paint the details aside from the black windows and stacks, but the Takara Tomy version should look pretty good backwards with all the truck details painted in.


Eh... those aren't windows. Those are the vents for the engine that rotates the drum. It's not a second cab.


Takara Tomy is definitely treating it like a second cab.

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They even painted the bar between the windows to look like Mixmaster's single cab window.

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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:01 pm

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Emerje wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Emerje wrote:The Hasbro version is a little shaky backwards since they didn't paint the details aside from the black windows and stacks, but the Takara Tomy version should look pretty good backwards with all the truck details painted in.


Eh... those aren't windows. Those are the vents for the engine that rotates the drum. It's not a second cab.


Takara Tomy is definitely treating it like a second cab.

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They even painted the bar between the windows to look like Mixmaster's single cab window.

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That's an interesting and unique way of being both a modern vehicle and G1 accurate at the same time; I kinda like it :DANCE:

Still would've liked a ball-jointed neck on him, and the silverbolt and hot/slaught torso mold.
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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:22 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm guessing it will very well received. From the comments I've read, every person who even considers displaying them separately are waiting to see what the price will be.

Personally I would be willing to pay an additional $50 for a PREMIUM paint job, just see TT's Devastator just dripping in painted details, like a Behr store just sneezed on it :shock:


Not to dissapoint but he wont be. The SDCC version still has the most paint apps, TT is just trying to be as G1 as possible. There are better paint apps sure, but he isn't drenching in them:

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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:03 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm guessing it will very well received. From the comments I've read, every person who even considers displaying them separately are waiting to see what the price will be.

Personally I would be willing to pay an additional $50 for a PREMIUM paint job, just see TT's Devastator just dripping in painted details, like a Behr store just sneezed on it :shock:


Not to dissapoint but he wont be. The SDCC version still has the most paint apps, TT is just trying to be as G1 as possible. There are better paint apps sure, but he isn't drenching in them:

I know what he will look like; I was actually hearkening back to the first movie and the "premium" sub-line where everyone got a spiffy new or better paint job. It wouldn't sell well if the general retail version was $200+ just for paint apps, but if they released a pseudo-masterpiece version or a 'premium' version with a lot of painted details, I think it would sell really well to collectors.

As for being 'G1 accurate' that's just a sleazy cop-out to leave most of the figure unpainted. Nostalgia wasn't stopping them from painting additional vents or pipes in silver or black. There's nothing keeping them from applying a little more paint to, say, the hydralics on Scrapper's lower legs, or Devs' thighs. Few G1 fans would decry it for 'not being G1 accurate' if they applied those, or others.
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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:05 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm guessing it will very well received. From the comments I've read, every person who even considers displaying them separately are waiting to see what the price will be.

Personally I would be willing to pay an additional $50 for a PREMIUM paint job, just see TT's Devastator just dripping in painted details, like a Behr store just sneezed on it :shock:


Not to dissapoint but he wont be. The SDCC version still has the most paint apps, TT is just trying to be as G1 as possible. There are better paint apps sure, but he isn't drenching in them:

I know what he will look like; I was actually hearkening back to the first movie and the "premium" sub-line where everyone got a spiffy new or better paint job. It wouldn't sell well if the general retail version was $200+ just for paint apps, but if they released a pseudo-masterpiece version or a 'premium' version with a lot of painted details, I think it would sell really well to collectors.

As for being 'G1 accurate' that's just a sleazy cop-out to leave most of the figure unpainted. Nostalgia wasn't stopping them from painting additional vents or pipes in silver or black. There's nothing keeping them from applying a little more paint to, say, the hydralics on Scrapper's lower legs, or Devs' thighs. Few G1 fans would decry it for 'not being G1 accurate' if they applied those, or others.
At the very least, the Takara one has more paint apps than the Hasbro retail one.
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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby happylock » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:09 pm

After seeing a side by side i am liking the retail version more than the sdcc one. I prefer the more cartoon accurate head.
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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:13 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm guessing it will very well received. From the comments I've read, every person who even considers displaying them separately are waiting to see what the price will be.

Personally I would be willing to pay an additional $50 for a PREMIUM paint job, just see TT's Devastator just dripping in painted details, like a Behr store just sneezed on it :shock:


Not to dissapoint but he wont be. The SDCC version still has the most paint apps, TT is just trying to be as G1 as possible. There are better paint apps sure, but he isn't drenching in them:

I know what he will look like; I was actually hearkening back to the first movie and the "premium" sub-line where everyone got a spiffy new or better paint job. It wouldn't sell well if the general retail version was $200+ just for paint apps, but if they released a pseudo-masterpiece version or a 'premium' version with a lot of painted details, I think it would sell really well to collectors.

As for being 'G1 accurate' that's just a sleazy cop-out to leave most of the figure unpainted. Nostalgia wasn't stopping them from painting additional vents or pipes in silver or black. There's nothing keeping them from applying a little more paint to, say, the hydralics on Scrapper's lower legs, or Devs' thighs. Few G1 fans would decry it for 'not being G1 accurate' if they applied those, or others.
At the very least, the Takara one has more paint apps than the Hasbro retail one.

That's not saying much; and despite going for "G1 accuracy" they missed all the decals on longhauls legs #-o

So, yeah, not necessarily G1 accurate after all.
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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

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With Devastator, I don't even know what "G1 accurate" is. Sabrblade has put up like 400 screen grabs, and he's different in each one! :lol:
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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:45 pm

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Cobotron wrote:With Devastator, I don't even know what "G1 accurate" is. Sabrblade has put up like 400 screen grabs, and he's different in each one! :lol:

Gee, that couldn't possibly be why it's completely ludicrous to try to do so, could it ;)
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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:45 pm

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Cobotron wrote:With Devastator, I don't even know what "G1 accurate" is. Sabrblade has put up like 400 screen grabs, and he's different in each one! :lol:
Well, I s'pose we could go to the source:
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Re: Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:47 pm

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God, the arts as bad as the one's on my deck of cards :HEADHURTS:
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