The Energon Pub

[Bradimus]

Are those drills on Rook's appendage?

Looks more like missiles to me.

If they are missiles then I intend to swap his appendage with Skydive's so Superion can have four different weapons. If they are drills then they fit well with Rook as a rescue tool, which is why I asked.

[Editor]

it's the likely situation. He'll be dropped for a drone type based off of Air Raid most likely.

[Bradimus]

it's the likely situation. He'll be dropped for a drone type based off of Air Raid most likely.

Why "drone type" and not straight up fighter jet? The Aerialbot jets are there for retooling, and outside of Skydive to Strafe I couldn't think of anything else until the suggestion of using Air Raid as Nightflight. But as they have very different color schemes and Hasbro seems to like to introduce a new character with the old character's colors my hopes that Air Raid will be the mold used may be in vain. Still, I think a jet will be the replacement to the space shuttle which never made sense to me anyway so I have no problem if that happens.

[Zeedust]

Hey if you like huge out of scale versions of the same four kid favorite characters, then go buy them. May your shelves be blessed with dozens of kid sized bumblebees, primes, megatrons and starscreams. Have fun, play safe !

When's the last time we got a huge Megatron or Starscream?

IIRC, the last jumbo bad-guy figure we got was Predaking in Beast Hunters, and being huge is in scale for him.

[william-james88]

Hey if you like huge out of scale versions of the same four kid favorite characters, then go buy them. May your shelves be blessed with dozens of kid sized bumblebees, primes, megatrons and starscreams. Have fun, play safe !

When's the last time we got a huge Megatron or Starscream?

IIRC, the last jumbo bad-guy figure we got was Predaking in Beast Hunters, and being huge is in scale for him.

Sorry for being off topic, but Beast Hunters had other big figures. There was that giant optimus with the dragon circle behind him that Skywarpt just bought. And plus Prime had a Leader Class too, its just that they were called different names like Beast Hunters Beast Tracker Optimus Prime! There was a Leader size Weaponiser Bumblebee too. And to be honest, those toys do kind of give Rated X a point especially since they were all simplified too, targetted at a younger audience (compared to the poweriser and deluxe class) and severely out of scale.

[Zeedust]

Hey if you like huge out of scale versions of the same four kid favorite characters, then go buy them. May your shelves be blessed with dozens of kid sized bumblebees, primes, megatrons and starscreams. Have fun, play safe !

When's the last time we got a huge Megatron or Starscream?

IIRC, the last jumbo bad-guy figure we got was Predaking in Beast Hunters, and being huge is in scale for him.

Sorry for being off topic, but Beast Hunters had other big figures. There was that giant optimus with the dragon circle behind him that Skywarpt just bought. And plus Prime had a Leader Class too, its just that they were called different names like Beast Hunters Beast Tracker Optimus Prime! There was a Leader size Weaponiser Bumblebee too. And to be honest, those toys do kind of give Rated X a point especially since they were all simplified too, targetted at a younger audience (compared to the poweriser and deluxe class) and severely out of scale.

I'm not arguing with that, what I'm saying is it's been almost exclusively Optimus and Bumblebee getting the treatment. It's not the same four, it's the same two.

[phantom1592]

That Platinum Starscream YoTH thing was pretty massive... and is still clogging up the aisle at the local TRU.

Really kind of annoying too... I'd like a cool G1 masterpiece Starscream in standard colors or something.. but this was bigger then the YOTH Optimus it was sharing a shelf with. Boxes looked like they went together, but that was a weird scale....

[Zeedust]

I forgot about that one, i guess because it was a recolor of the Cybertron one.

But Platinum is intended as a collector's line if I'm not mistaken, much like Generations is. And those are the only lines with large or pricey 'cons (not counting convention or club exclusives, which tend to be expensive no matter what) in the past couple years.

[william-james88]

I'm still wondering why Dead End doesn't have vehicle-limb integration.

Do you mean vehicle-weapon/accessory integration? Or the fact that he turns into a limb and it doesnt show much in his vehicle mode?

[Thadicon]

I'm still wondering why Dead End doesn't have vehicle-limb integration.

Do you mean vehicle-weapon/accessory integration? Or the fact that he turns into a limb and it doesnt show much in his vehicle mode?

I was thinking the same thing the rest of them have it why doesn't he. Maybe someone forgot or they were different designers.

[fenrir72]

Hey if you like huge out of scale versions of the same four kid favorite characters, then go buy them. May your shelves be blessed with dozens of kid sized bumblebees, primes, megatrons and starscreams. Have fun, play safe !

When's the last time we got a huge Megatron or Starscream?

IIRC, the last jumbo bad-guy figure we got was Predaking in Beast Hunters, and being huge is in scale for him.

Sorry for being off topic, but Beast Hunters had other big figures. There was that giant optimus with the dragon circle behind him that Skywarpt just bought. And plus Prime had a Leader Class too, its just that they were called different names like Beast Hunters Beast Tracker Optimus Prime! There was a Leader size Weaponiser Bumblebee too. And to be honest, those toys do kind of give Rated X a point especially since they were all simplified too, targetted at a younger audience (compared to the poweriser and deluxe class) and severely out of scale.

I'm not arguing with that, what I'm saying is it's been almost exclusively Optimus and Bumblebee getting the treatment. It's not the same four, it's the same two.

There will always be clunkers. Developed and released for the sake of release. Just like Titanium. On that part I'm 100% in agreement with "X". It's the horse beating that gets kind of old.

[Zeedust]

I'm still wondering why Dead End doesn't have vehicle-limb integration.

I'm more interested in why they gave hims a freakin' exhaust pipe as a weapon if they had no intention of integrating it into his vehicle mode.

[Thadicon]

I'm still wondering why Dead End doesn't have vehicle-limb integration.

I'm more interested in why they gave hims a freakin' exhaust pipe as a weapon if they had no intention of integrating it into his vehicle mode.

Yeah me too. I can see the whole "Junkyard gang" idea but the at least deserve some decent weapons that intergrate

[Zeedust]

I'm still wondering why Dead End doesn't have vehicle-limb integration.

I'm more interested in why they gave hims a freakin' exhaust pipe as a weapon if they had no intention of integrating it into his vehicle mode.

Yeah me too. I can see the whole "Junkyard gang" idea but the at least deserve some decent weapons that intergrate

I like integrated weapons, but I don't mind them not integrating quite so much if they don't look like they're supposed to be part of the alt mode. (Breakdown's weapon doesn't really integrate, for example, but I can live with that because it's otherwise pretty nifty.)

[King Kuuga]

I like integrated weapons, but I don't mind them not integrating quite so much if they don't look like they're supposed to be part of the alt mode. (Breakdown's weapon doesn't really integrate, for example, but I can live with that because it's otherwise pretty nifty.)

It may have been noted previously, I don't remember, but Breakdown's combiner foothand can attach to the rear of his car in a way that will help him resemble Sunstreaker down the road.

[peaces]

i could care less about weapon integration. i like the crowbar cause it's different and bad ass. it should've been chromed though. even takara didn't paint it which is sad.

[Agamemnon]

Dead End's combiner foot/hand kibble can sit on the roof. It looks among the most odd, in my opinion, but it does integrate. The tailpipe/police club looking thing (which I really like for Prowl, being a police bot and all) sits nicely as one of those running board exhaust pipes. It reminds me of the old Corvette Stingrays...



So, yeah, I'd like a little clarification on the integration question, too.

[rickdraco]

it's the likely situation. He'll be dropped for a drone type based off of Air Raid most likely.

Why "drone type" and not straight up fighter jet? The Aerialbot jets are there for retooling, and outside of Skydive to Strafe I couldn't think of anything else until the suggestion of using Air Raid as Nightflight. But as they have very different color schemes and Hasbro seems to like to introduce a new character with the old character's colors my hopes that Air Raid will be the mold used may be in vain. Still, I think a jet will be the replacement to the space shuttle which never made sense to me anyway so I have no problem if that happens.

The colour thing is a valid point, but I do see a workaround with that also. It would not be the first time a micromaster got the wrong plane mode.. and the pilot to the Decepticon helicopter base, Skyhopper has at least semi-similar colours, being green and black, so maybe they will use those colours for the repaint/retool of air raid to replace Blast off.. also, if they use HotSpot as the basis for Onslaught, what are the odds they'll recolour Groove and call the recolour Ransack, after the cybertron Basic?

[Bradimus]

it's the likely situation. He'll be dropped for a drone type based off of Air Raid most likely.

Why "drone type" and not straight up fighter jet? The Aerialbot jets are there for retooling, and outside of Skydive to Strafe I couldn't think of anything else until the suggestion of using Air Raid as Nightflight. But as they have very different color schemes and Hasbro seems to like to introduce a new character with the old character's colors my hopes that Air Raid will be the mold used may be in vain. Still, I think a jet will be the replacement to the space shuttle which never made sense to me anyway so I have no problem if that happens.

The colour thing is a valid point, but I do see a workaround with that also. It would not be the first time a micromaster got the wrong plane mode.. and the pilot to the Decepticon helicopter base, Skyhopper has at least semi-similar colours, being green and black, so maybe they will use those colours for the repaint/retool of air raid to replace Blast off.. also, if they use HotSpot as the basis for Onslaught, what are the odds they'll recolour Groove and call the recolour Ransack, after the cybertron Basic?

I could see Groove getting a military green paint scheme to fit the group, and Ransack was released with a green deco later in the Cybertron line. I can't imagine Hasbro passing up the opportunity to get kids to purchase an unnecessary figure.

[Sabrblade]

Bruticus will likely have Legends class shockwave as his Legends figure, based on the scene in "The Revenge of Bruticus" in which he wielded Shockwave in gun mode.

[rickdraco]

Bruticus will likely have Legends class shockwave as his Legends figure, based on the scene in "The Revenge of Bruticus" in which he wielded Shockwave in gun mode.

Hmm, it's a definite possibility, I agree. But I still can't see them ignoring the easy way to make a quick buck using the Groove mould as well.

[Editor]

it's the likely situation. He'll be dropped for a drone type based off of Air Raid most likely.

Why "drone type" and not straight up fighter jet? The Aerialbot jets are there for retooling, and outside of Skydive to Strafe I couldn't think of anything else until the suggestion of using Air Raid as Nightflight. But as they have very different color schemes and Hasbro seems to like to introduce a new character with the old character's colors my hopes that Air Raid will be the mold used may be in vain. Still, I think a jet will be the replacement to the space shuttle which never made sense to me anyway so I have no problem if that happens.

The colour thing is a valid point, but I do see a workaround with that also. It would not be the first time a micromaster got the wrong plane mode.. and the pilot to the Decepticon helicopter base, Skyhopper has at least semi-similar colours, being green and black, so maybe they will use those colours for the repaint/retool of air raid to replace Blast off.. also, if they use HotSpot as the basis for Onslaught, what are the odds they'll recolour Groove and call the recolour Ransack, after the cybertron Basic?

I could see Groove getting a military green paint scheme to fit the group, and Ransack was released with a green deco later in the Cybertron line. I can't imagine Hasbro passing up the opportunity to get kids to purchase an unnecessary figure.

To touch on the original question posed to me, the rational I have for saying that Blast-off could be replaced by a drone because having a jet would be too close to the Aerialbots and quite frankly, that simply isn't needed. Where as a Drone would be more unique and as an addition would show the changing face of combat in the real world. That said, if they were to just redeco Air Raid into Nightflight, I'd be all over that. Heck if they redeco the Aerialbots into the whole Air Strike Patrol as limbs for Galvatronus that would be pretty sweet.

[Rodimus Prime]

Heck if they redeco the Aerialbots into the whole Air Strike Patrol as limbs for Galvatronus that would be pretty sweet.

OH

MY

GAWD!

GENIUS!

[Editor]

Heck if they redeco the Aerialbots into the whole Air Strike Patrol as limbs for Galvatronus that would be pretty sweet.

OH

MY

GAWD!

GENIUS!

I have my moments.

Plus with the color of that team and Cyclonus, Viper would fit in perfectly.

[william-james88]

Heck if they redeco the Aerialbots into the whole Air Strike Patrol as limbs for Galvatronus that would be pretty sweet.

OH

MY

GAWD!

GENIUS!

Who's the air striker partol? Also, do we know yet which legends figure will be used for Shockwave?