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[william-james88]

look guys. Alpha Bravo has always been an Aerialbot, we have always been at war with Gobotia, and gold plastic syndrome is a lie told by insurgents trying to undermine the glorious cybertronian homeland. That said, Defensor's stumpy gorilla legs make me want to get 4 offroads and make CW optimus primal, the truck monkey.

Please do this, but use arm forms for all the limbs.

Arm forms or hand mode for the hand/foot piece? I think arm form for legs would be make them a bit too long. Could be wrong. I don't have the figures to be sure.

Your right, hand pieces on leg modes work better. What a smart idea too!

[Zeedust]

With regards to peaces comments about new character hating, It's sad but true, but don't let that stop us from enjoying these new fellows!

It seems Alpha Bravo gets the lion's share of the hate. Maybe they're scared of Offroad? (Not that I blame anyone for being scared of Offroad, dude's cold.)

[SW's SilverHammer]

With regards to peaces comments about new character hating, It's sad but true, but don't let that stop us from enjoying these new fellows!

It seems Alpha Bravo gets the lion's share of the hate. Maybe they're scared of Offroad? (Not that I blame anyone for being scared of Offroad, dude's cold.)

I think offroad's yandere for motormaster and the other stunticons, and made Wildrider "disappear". He's got those crazy eyes.

[Yotsuyasan]

It seems Alpha Bravo gets the lion's share of the hate. Maybe they're scared of Offroad? (Not that I blame anyone for being scared of Offroad, dude's cold.)

I think it is because Offroad is less of a departure. The G1 Aerialbots were a very unified team: five jets. Where as the Stunticons were a tractor trailer truck, a race car, and three sports cars. It was already a somewhat mixed team. So a tractor trailer truck, a race car, two sports cars, and a pick-up isn't that drastic an alteration.

[Rated X]

All this fan speculation about the Rook mold being re-tooled into Brawl is nothing more than speculation.

Of course it is. But popular speculation based on past events. That's called an "educated guess". I don't think anyone is saying it will ABSOLUTELY happen. But if speculation is correct, wadya gonna do X?

Ill just sit back and let third parties do what they do best...clean up Hasbro's mess.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

With regards to peaces comments about new character hating, It's sad but true, but don't let that stop us from enjoying these new fellows!

It seems Alpha Bravo gets the lion's share of the hate. Maybe they're scared of Offroad? (Not that I blame anyone for being scared of Offroad, dude's cold.)

I think offroad's yandere for motormaster and the other stunticons, and made Wildrider "disappear". He's got those crazy eyes.

Wildrider ain't comin' back. Know why? CAUSE I DEATHED HIM TO DEATH WITH MY WICKED FACE, MONSTER TRUCK TIRES AND MY AXE!

[shajaki]

All this fan speculation about the Rook mold being re-tooled into Brawl is nothing more than speculation.

Of course it is. But popular speculation based on past events. That's called an "educated guess". I don't think anyone is saying it will ABSOLUTELY happen. But if speculation is correct, wadya gonna do X?

Ill just sit back and let third parties do what they do best...clean up Hasbro's mess.

You mean like you did... with Alpha Bravo?

[Rated X]

Knowing X he'll throw a tantrum and declare that Transformers is ruined forever.

Yawn....

[Rated X]

All this fan speculation about the Rook mold being re-tooled into Brawl is nothing more than speculation.

Of course it is. But popular speculation based on past events. That's called an "educated guess". I don't think anyone is saying it will ABSOLUTELY happen. But if speculation is correct, wadya gonna do X?

Ill just sit back and let third parties do what they do best...clean up Hasbro's mess.

You mean like you did... with Alpha Bravo?

Well I had my trigger finger ready to preorder that belzeboss slingshot, but takara decided to clean up hasbro's mess first. What else could hasbro do but use takaras new head molds and right the alpha bravo wrong? But I must admit, alpha bravo has been a barrel of laughs. And at least the shattered glass fans got a vortex.

[fenrir72]

Knowing X he'll throw a tantrum and declare that Transformers is ruined forever.

Wasn't it ruined already with the advent of MP, Ultra, Leader scales?

[shajaki]

All this fan speculation about the Rook mold being re-tooled into Brawl is nothing more than speculation.

Of course it is. But popular speculation based on past events. That's called an "educated guess". I don't think anyone is saying it will ABSOLUTELY happen. But if speculation is correct, wadya gonna do X?

Ill just sit back and let third parties do what they do best...clean up Hasbro's mess.

You mean like you did... with Alpha Bravo?

Well I had my trigger finger ready to preorder that belzeboss slingshot, but takara decided to clean up hasbro's mess first. What else could hasbro do but use takaras new head molds and right the alpha bravo wrong? But I must admit, alpha bravo has been a barrel of laughs. And at least the shattered glass fans got a vortex.

You're missing my point. Your hatred of AB is well documented. And yet, you own one. So will you also buy the incredibly not G1 Rook?

[Rated X]

Knowing X he'll throw a tantrum and declare that Transformers is ruined forever.

Wasn't it ruined already with the advent of MP, Ultra, Leader scales?

Big for nothing figures didnt ruin transformers. They just made it a bit silly.

[Zeedust]

I think offroad's yandere for motormaster and the other stunticons, and made Wildrider "disappear". He's got those crazy eyes.

Maybe he's yandere for Menasor, and took Wildrider out of the equation so that he could become part of the object of his obsessions.

It seems Alpha Bravo gets the lion's share of the hate. Maybe they're scared of Offroad? (Not that I blame anyone for being scared of Offroad, dude's cold.)

I think it is because Offroad is less of a departure. The G1 Aerialbots were a very unified team: five jets. Where as the Stunticons were a tractor trailer truck, a race car, and three sports cars. It was already a somewhat mixed team. So a tractor trailer truck, a race car, two sports cars, and a pick-up isn't that drastic an alteration.

That makes sense.

It's also the reason I'm glad they got Alpha Bravo, because I like a little variety sometimes.

[Ironhidensh]

Knowing X he'll throw a tantrum and declare that Transformers is ruined forever.

Wasn't it ruined already with the advent of MP, Ultra, Leader scales?

Big for nothing figures didnt ruin transformers. They just made it a bit silly.

You are literally the only person I've ever heard with this complaint.

[Rated X]

All this fan speculation about the Rook mold being re-tooled into Brawl is nothing more than speculation.

Of course it is. But popular speculation based on past events. That's called an "educated guess". I don't think anyone is saying it will ABSOLUTELY happen. But if speculation is correct, wadya gonna do X?

Ill just sit back and let third parties do what they do best...clean up Hasbro's mess.

You mean like you did... with Alpha Bravo?

Well I had my trigger finger ready to preorder that belzeboss slingshot, but takara decided to clean up hasbro's mess first. What else could hasbro do but use takaras new head molds and right the alpha bravo wrong? But I must admit, alpha bravo has been a barrel of laughs. And at least the shattered glass fans got a vortex.

You're missing my point. Your hatred of AB is well documented. And yet, you own one. So will you also buy the incredibly not G1 Rook?

I also own a $300 suit I have never worn for a job interview I eventually will apply for. So its safe to say my Alpha Bravo purchase had pre-meditated intentions. Im currently taking requests for the Rook roast if you have any ideas.

[shajaki]

I also own a $300 suit I have never worn for a job interview I eventually will apply for. So its safe to say my Alpha Bravo purchase had pre-meditated intentions. Im currently taking requests for the Rook roast if you have any ideas.

I don't see why we're talking about suits... but you're telling me you bought AB with the premeditated intentions... of taking pictures of him in a toilet. Just to get things clear.

[fenrir72]

Knowing X he'll throw a tantrum and declare that Transformers is ruined forever.

Wasn't it ruined already with the advent of MP, Ultra, Leader scales?

Big for nothing figures didnt ruin transformers. They just made it a bit silly.

Size does have the advantage of adding features which can not be implemented in certain scale ranges. Just as some size and battery operated gimmicks don't translate as win like Micron Legends Convoy. Just as Titanium for the sake of die-cast resulted in ill fitting highly unbalanced figures. Just as adding a new figure/character to a well established combiner team don't necessarily instill the old nostalgia from the originals.

Given that logic, the toy line is indeed doomed to failure and we have the 3rd party as the only viable "Transformer" alternative.

That or it's just your opinion as the franchise is going strong. It can absorb the loss of one customer or two who have shifted to the 3rd parties.

Anyways guys, aren't we far to ahead at wishing for Bruticus already? Give Hasbro/Tomy's engineers a little bit of breathing space first.

Back to the A/B mold. If this would serve as a retool for Vortex, I'd wish the end result would be more of the original Kaman Aerospace SH-2 Seasprite helicopter than what Floro Dery designed in the show. The latter just appeared weird imho.Then again, a lot of the animation design for defensor/Hostspot and Bruticus/Combaticons did not reflect the actual appearance of the toys themselves.

[MGrotusque]

Here's a good pic of Groove in chest mode.


Not bad. I like it.

[william-james88]

So about combiner wars.... I was thinking. Everyone seems to assume that the Motormaster/Optimus mold was made for Motormaster but I find that hard to believe. Firstly, they built their early marketting campaign off the Combining Optimus and he is the character with the larger general fan base. Little kids and their parents dont know Motormaster, but Prime is an easy sell and an easy step drug to get into the combining gimmick. And of the two, Prime is the one with the correct alt mode. So that got me thinking that while we might find Motormaster to be the more succesful version of the mold, it was probably made with Prime in mind first.

[Rated X]

I also own a $300 suit I have never worn for a job interview I eventually will apply for. So its safe to say my Alpha Bravo purchase had pre-meditated intentions. Im currently taking requests for the Rook roast if you have any ideas.

I don't see why we're talking about suits... but you're telling me you bought AB with the premeditated intentions... of taking pictures of him in a toilet. Just to get things clear.

That is correct. I bought Alpha Bravo for a purpose which I knew would eventually be fulfilled. Same thing with the suit. You are a smart guy, so I'm surprised you didn't get that analogy.

[Nemesis Maximo]

I also own a $300 suit I have never worn for a job interview I eventually will apply for. So its safe to say my Alpha Bravo purchase had pre-meditated intentions. Im currently taking requests for the Rook roast if you have any ideas.

I don't see why we're talking about suits... but you're telling me you bought AB with the premeditated intentions... of taking pictures of him in a toilet. Just to get things clear.

That is correct. I bought Alpha Bravo for a purpose which I knew would eventually be fulfilled. Same thing with the suit. You are a smart guy, so I'm surprised you didn't get that analogy.

I can hardly put into words how f***in' psycho you are.

[Rated X]

I also own a $300 suit I have never worn for a job interview I eventually will apply for. So its safe to say my Alpha Bravo purchase had pre-meditated intentions. Im currently taking requests for the Rook roast if you have any ideas.

I don't see why we're talking about suits... but you're telling me you bought AB with the premeditated intentions... of taking pictures of him in a toilet. Just to get things clear.

That is correct. I bought Alpha Bravo for a purpose which I knew would eventually be fulfilled. Same thing with the suit. You are a smart guy, so I'm surprised you didn't get that analogy.

I can hardly put into words how f***in' psycho you are.

I know. Wasting a small fortune on an Alpha Bravo figure just for a gag is just criminal. I could have ended world hunger instead with that amount of money.

[fenrir72]

So about combiner wars.... I was thinking. Everyone seems to assume that the Motormaster/Optimus mold was made for Motormaster but I find that hard to believe. Firstly, they built their early marketting campaign off the Combining Optimus and he is the character with the larger general fan base. Little kids and their parents dont know Motormaster, but Prime is an easy sell and an easy step drug to get into the combining gimmick. And of the two, Prime is the one with the correct alt mode. So that got me thinking that while we might find Motormaster to be the more succesful version of the mold, it was probably made with Prime in mind first.

I wish Hasbro / Tomy will maka a stand alone mold for Optimus, like his IDW incarnation? That Legion/Legend (?) rlease of his with BB does not befit his stature.The combiner version of his sucks. It's okay as Scourge but the face is a bit off a turn off.

[shajaki]

I also own a $300 suit I have never worn for a job interview I eventually will apply for. So its safe to say my Alpha Bravo purchase had pre-meditated intentions. Im currently taking requests for the Rook roast if you have any ideas.

I don't see why we're talking about suits... but you're telling me you bought AB with the premeditated intentions... of taking pictures of him in a toilet. Just to get things clear.

That is correct. I bought Alpha Bravo for a purpose which I knew would eventually be fulfilled. Same thing with the suit. You are a smart guy, so I'm surprised you didn't get that analogy.

I know what an analogy is but I'm just not buyin what you're sellin is all

[fenrir72]

I also own a $300 suit I have never worn for a job interview I eventually will apply for. So its safe to say my Alpha Bravo purchase had pre-meditated intentions. Im currently taking requests for the Rook roast if you have any ideas.

I don't see why we're talking about suits... but you're telling me you bought AB with the premeditated intentions... of taking pictures of him in a toilet. Just to get things clear.

That is correct. I bought Alpha Bravo for a purpose which I knew would eventually be fulfilled. Same thing with the suit. You are a smart guy, so I'm surprised you didn't get that analogy.

I can hardly put into words how f***in' psycho you are.

And in the end, it was Hasbro that won because they got X to buy one (A/B) despite his "hatred" for the mold/character.