The Energon Pub

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i wish rodimus wasn't crappy

[Stuartmaximus]

Fellow Seibertronian chuckdawg1999 was able to grab the third Seeker from the Combiner Wars Legends class line, part of wave 4 of the line overall which has been appearing at retail this month. There are some changes, it seems, so check out the video review below!

Skywarp completes the G1 Seeker trio quite nicely. Sure it's a repaint of Starscream but that was a solid mold, one I think is much better than the Classics Deluxe mold. Finding this online may be tough due to mark ups and scalping so an in-store purchase may be your best route.

IT may complete the trio in other countries.....but here in the UK....we've still to get Starscream

[Stuartmaximus]

Also!

Do you think we'll ever get the Dinobots as part of the Combiner Wars? I mean.....we're already getting Sky Lynx.....so anything is possible I s'pose

[Ironhidensh]

Rodimus.. another figure that deserves its own, much larger, mold.

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we might, we might not. aoe ruined them. what a **** movie.

[Madeus Prime]

Also!

Do you think we'll ever get the Dinobots as part of the Combiner Wars? I mean.....we're already getting Sky Lynx.....so anything is possible I s'pose

As much as I'd like to, the chances are nil. Didn't Hasbro say at SDCC that any beastformers for CW weren't in the cards? They shot down rumors of Predaking and a Dinobot combiner. Which I suppose reflects on them not producing Terrorcons and Seacons as well.

Although, with any luck, maybe Titan Wars will show some reuses of the molds as a sub line, assuming any deluxe class figures will not be directly related to the Titan figure's function and won't be dedicated entirely to the suspected _____master systems. Fingers crossed for Technobots!

[RAR]

Hasbro shoot themselves in the foot by saying they won't make something the 3rd parties can rub their hands in glee and then go out and make things like Horrorcons, Terrorcons, and so on for quite some time.

[william-james88]

Hasbro shoot themselves in the foot by saying they won't make something the 3rd parties can rub their hands in glee and then go out and make things like Horrorcons, Terrorcons, and so on for quite some time.

They are already making them, this wont change anything. And people will buy them for 100$ a piece and then years later Hasbro will release their own version and then the 3p version will have a lower secondary market value. Nothing really changes from them saying anything.

Also!

Do you think we'll ever get the Dinobots as part of the Combiner Wars? I mean.....we're already getting Sky Lynx.....so anything is possible I s'pose

No, for 2 reasons:

1. Hasbro already said there will be no beast combiners in the near future (at least 2 years).
2.They are instead releasing these dinobots under the generations Emblem:



They all have classic heads like this:

[Stuartmaximus]

Then how do they explain Sky Lynx? coz he's a beast!(a mythical one at that), granted he only makes up the main body of a combiner! & the limbs are not beasts......but still!

[william-james88]

Then how do they explain Sky Lynx? coz he's a beast!(a mythical one at that), granted he only makes up the main body of a combiner! & the limbs are not beasts......but still!

I cant explain it. I can only tell you what Habro said. They said that any traditional combiners with beast alt modes you might have been expecting are currently not in development.

[Stuartmaximus]

Then how do they explain Sky Lynx? coz he's a beast!(a mythical one at that), granted he only makes up the main body of a combiner! & the limbs are not beasts......but still!

I cant explain it. I can only tell you what Habro said. They said that any traditional combiners with beast alt modes you might have been expecting are currently not in development.

Well....I've obviously exposed a loophole right there!

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Then how do they explain Sky Lynx? coz he's a beast!(a mythical one at that), granted he only makes up the main body of a combiner! & the limbs are not beasts......but still!

I cant explain it. I can only tell you what Habro said. They said that any traditional combiners with beast alt modes you might have been expecting are currently not in development.

Well....I've obviously exposed a loophole right there!

It's either beast combiners all together like Predaking, Abominus (Legion redeco please), Piranacon and Monstructor, or Beast Wars combiners like God Neptune, Magnaboss and Tripredacus.

[Hellscream9999]

Then how do they explain Sky Lynx? coz he's a beast!(a mythical one at that), granted he only makes up the main body of a combiner! & the limbs are not beasts......but still!

I cant explain it. I can only tell you what Habro said. They said that any traditional combiners with beast alt modes you might have been expecting are currently not in development.

Well....I've obviously exposed a loophole right there!

There's a difference between a torso, and an entire set of of 5, that would, logistically, have to be retooled several times to appease G1'ers and make a profit. Unless they have some clever use of the skylynx mold waiting for us, I think that was just a love letter to fans.

[Black Bumblebee]

I love it: Hasbro puts tons of effort into Combiner Wars (and repaints), and special effort on Devastator. Fan poll for favorite combiner is created: Predaking (the one they didn't plan on making) wins.

[Sabrblade]

Then how do they explain Sky Lynx? coz he's a beast!(a mythical one at that), granted he only makes up the main body of a combiner! & the limbs are not beasts......but still!

I cant explain it. I can only tell you what Habro said. They said that any traditional combiners with beast alt modes you might have been expecting are currently not in development.

Well....I've obviously exposed a loophole right there!

Sky Lynx's altmode is a vehicle. The dinobird mode is his robot mode, so he can get around the "no beast combiners" thing.

And, when he was revealed at the panel at BotCon, it seemed like the Hasbro team just really really REALLY wanted to do Sky Lynx for some reason.

[Sabrblade]

Rodimus.. another figure that deserves its own, much larger, mold.

He did.

Several times:

[william-james88]

Then how do they explain Sky Lynx? coz he's a beast!(a mythical one at that), granted he only makes up the main body of a combiner! & the limbs are not beasts......but still!

I cant explain it. I can only tell you what Habro said. They said that any traditional combiners with beast alt modes you might have been expecting are currently not in development.

Well....I've obviously exposed a loophole right there!

The only beast combiners they might do are the ones that don't exist? Doesnt sound like anything anyone would ever want.

I love it: Hasbro puts tons of effort into Combiner Wars (and repaints), and special effort on Devastator. Fan poll for favorite combiner is created: Predaking (the one they didn't plan on making) wins.

But he wouldnt make sense as scramble city combiner since he was not done that way in G1. The only animal combiners Hasbro are leaving out (not including redecos) by not adding to this scramble city concept are Abimimus and Piranacacon. He will be released as a rightfully intended titan class figure (if you want the real G1 experience) in the years to come so I wouldnt worry about that.

[Ironhidensh]

Rodimus.. another figure that deserves its own, much larger, mold.

He did.

Several times:

[Stuartmaximus]

Then how do they explain Sky Lynx? coz he's a beast!(a mythical one at that), granted he only makes up the main body of a combiner! & the limbs are not beasts......but still!

I cant explain it. I can only tell you what Habro said. They said that any traditional combiners with beast alt modes you might have been expecting are currently not in development.

So lemme get this right! we're NOT getting any beast combiners! well that can't be right....coz Abominus, Predaking & Piranhacon were part of G1 lore! so how can Hasbro justify having other G1 Combiners.....but not include them? + Tripredicus wasn't part of the traditional combiners with beast alt modes(as far as I can remember! I dunno about the comics....but he didn't appear in any of the G1 cartoons, granted the Tripredicus Council appeared on Beast Wars) also....the Dinobots were not traditional combiners! they never had a combiner feature in G1, it was only a third party that developed that(& for all I know....it may have appeared in the comics).

Look! I'm not saying your wrong, I just don't understand Hasbro's justification of not including beast form combiners!

+ who knows...knowing Hasbro....& their affinity for retools and repaints in CW...We could've ended up with something like this....http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachmen ... ots-v2.jpg

[Hellscream9999]

Then how do they explain Sky Lynx? coz he's a beast!(a mythical one at that), granted he only makes up the main body of a combiner! & the limbs are not beasts......but still!

I cant explain it. I can only tell you what Habro said. They said that any traditional combiners with beast alt modes you might have been expecting are currently not in development.

So lemme get this right! we're NOT getting any beast combiners! well that can't be right....coz Abominus, Predaking & Piranhacon were part of G1 lore! so how can Hasbro justify having other G1 Combiners.....but not include them? + Tripredicus wasn't part of the traditional combiners with beast alt modes(as far as I can remember! I dunno about the comics....but he didn't appear in any of the G1 cartoons, granted the Tripredicus Council appeared on Beast Wars) also....the Dinobots were not traditional combiners! they never had a combiner feature in G1, it was only a third party that developed that(& for all I know....it may have appeared in the comics).

Because, vehicles are disparately different from animals. beast combiners have all sorts of vestigial alt-mode limbs that will need dealing with, plus all that additional weight would weigh the combined mode down. And no matter how easy I've stated it would be, it would still require a lot more molds to be made, you can't just swap the hood of the car and call it a new character (while you could swap beast heads cleverly, you would need to replace ALL beast mode limbs appropriately to boot) and hasbro has shown that they would probably go the 'heavy re-mold' route if they did, which would require additional planning so as to include everyone, and make sure they make the best use of each remolding; even then, it may require sacrifice G1'ers aren't willing to accept.

[RAR]

I recall noticing the response on many forums to the reveal of Combiner Wars Optimus Prime was either indignation or laughter.

Does he looks strange to people now or have you got used to it - I though I'd ask as I just noticed again recently how damn strange looking Energon Super Base Optimus Prime looks as a toy - It made me wonder will people look back in years to come and think - he was a bit odd looking.

I can kind of see what Hasbro were getting at he's a bit like the preceding IDW Prime, with some elements of Hero Prime and Classics Prime thrown in he has the tail light design from G1 Optimus - and even some Energon Prime in the Torso mode and how the missing paint on the truck mode make it look like the white parts on that toy.

But some might look at it and just think he's rather wide looking and has a very small head.

I might guess some people might be happy with it as Motormaster more than as Optimus.

[Hellscream9999]

I recall noticing the response on many forums to the reveal of Combiner Wars Optimus Prime was either indignation or laughter.

Does he looks strange to people now or have you got used to it - I though I'd ask as I just noticed again recently how damn strange looking Energon Super Base Optimus Prime looks as a toy - It made me wonder will people look back in years to come and think - he was a bit odd looking.

I can kind of see what Hasbro were getting at he's a bit like the preceding IDW Prime, with some elements of Hero Prime and Classics Prime thrown in he has the tail light design from G1 Optimus - and even some Energon Prime in the Torso mode and how the missing paint on the truck mode make it look like the white parts on that toy.

But some might look at it and just think he's rather wide looking and has a very small head.

I might guess some people might be happy with it as Motormaster more than as Optimus.

I think the super flat chest fits mm a little better because that's how he was portrayed (if I remember that correctly) and the head on o/p is a little under-scaled. I think the torso mode for both look stupid in the 'official form' and barely any better in the fan-modes, on top of that, it's poorly engineered and has terrible balance.

[william-james88]

So lemme get this right! we're NOT getting any beast combiners! well that can't be right....coz Abominus, Predaking & Piranhacon were part of G1 lore! so how can Hasbro justify having other G1 Combiners.....but not include them? + Tripredicus wasn't part of the traditional combiners with beast alt modes(as far as I can remember! I dunno about the comics....but he didn't appear in any of the G1 cartoons, granted the Tripredicus Council appeared on Beast Wars) also....the Dinobots were not traditional combiners! they never had a combiner feature in G1, it was only a third party that developed that(& for all I know....it may have appeared in the comics).

Look! I'm not saying your wrong, I just don't understand Hasbro's justification of not including beast form combiners!

Quote from Hasbro:

No plans for Dinobots Combiner

No plans for Predaking, or beast combiners in general.

Its not about me being right or wrong, as you point out, it is just relaying the info.

But as I said, you wouldnt have gotten Predaking anyway (or Monstructor, Landcross, etc) because they arent scramble city. They only issue one Titan a year and this year it was Devastator. So Predaking will be later. Oh and not only are you not getting Beast Combiners, but so far Hasbro only revealed Scattershot as being a solo torso for "Betatron" which doesnt have it's own limbs.

But hey, you are getting a whole new random combiner if you care, called Mayhem Maximus:

[chuckdawg1999]

ARGH!
So last night I saw a particular Australian based online website was going to have a restock of the Protectorbots, as I'm going to be getting the Unite Warriors version I still wanted to grab Rook, and given the lack of distribution that occurs when you live in regional Australia, I put my pre-order in.

Walked into K-Mart today, and they have the Protectorbots (sans Hot Spot) in stock.

DISTRIBUTION FRUSTRATION!

"But Burn, can't you just cancel your pre-order?"

No ... that in itself is a story on its own and not something I want to go into publicly.

"Wraps his arms around Burn in a big meaty man hug" It's OK bro, we've all been there.

So... Does anyone else's Defensor lean forward for some odd reason?

Yes, mine does, and so does everyone else's, I believe; It's because the weight pulls the figure forward, and the detents in the hips have enough 'soft space' that it just leans forward on the detent; either that, or there is not enough pressure from the spring to hold the detents in place;

Hope this helps.

^^^ What they said. I call it the Combiner Wars lean. That and the constant repaints are starting to sour me on the line, oh who am I kidding I'm buying them all.

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooh! Don't make me pull out this old thing again.

This thread just got taken to the ESTRADA!

I didn't realize it until recently but what really gets me about legends Hot Rod is that the card art shows his wrist guns, but they're NOT tooled onto the figure. Not even a paint app.

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if they do have plans for beast combiners, they're not gonna tell us until they want to. saying anything besides 'no plans' would just be giving it away.