The Energon Pub

sol magnus wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:A clean, correctly assembled Galvatron too.

Makes me feel like an idiot for getting him. Galvy is one of my faves, but I absolutely hate it when they pull crap like this.

The latest Kingdom ones are correctly assembled. I don't know about the 'clean' part, though.

The new pics show him without lots if extra paint apps, most of them being the battle damage. However, the pics also show other toys with different paint apps than we know they have. So we can't know for sure. Wont hep that he's closed box and thus you can't see if the shoulders on your are fixed or not.

As for the paint in Galvatron, that is odd. Thankfully the Kingdom one I have had correct shoulders in package. I don't really care about the paint. However, the fact that as Will mentioned the Leader Class now ( and possibly all others eventually) will have closed box packaging, or the small window will be open ( no plastic) probably in 2023, does make it harder to spot defects or even if the package has been tampered with and you may be getting something else completely.

I guess the only way to avoid some of those in problems is to order online.

Still...I bet next year, complaint calls are going to go up significantly, ( Getting the wrong leader class toy etc). And I don't think $5O worth of Botbots is fair compensation.

If you are worried the upcoming Blaster will be hard to find, don't be. We have images here further confirming he will also be part of the first wave of the upcoming Legacy toyline due out in a couple of months. He will be Bulkhead's wavemate. We also have images showing that the Galvatron repack will also be in the first wave of the Legacy leader class, with G2 Optimus Prime. The leader class packaging can be seen in the images below, where we see that it is closed, like with Masterpiece releases and commander class toys. With a toy like Galvatron which has a possibility of missassembly, that's unfortunate. The stock images show him missing several paint apps, such as the ones used to convey battle damage and the extra paint app on the clear plastic orange. These stock photos should not be taken at face value though since we can see from the Buzzworthy Cliffjumper stock photo, also shown below, that those photos do not show us the final deco (Cliffjumper's windows are clear in these photos and we know they aren't). So we'll only know the truth for Galvatron when he's released. Wave 1 of Legacy will have three repacks then with Hot Rod joining the aforementioned two. These images come to us from In Demand Toys.

That's some packaging on the Legacy line. It better be black light reactive.

I'd love a Galvatron that doesn't have s**t all over him, even if I do have to fix the shoulders again.
People who have found Kingdom Blaster, does he have "battle damage?"

o.supreme wrote:As for the paint in Galvatron, that is odd. Thankfully the Kingdom one I have had correct shoulders in package. I don't really care about the paint. However, the fact that as Will mentioned the Leader Class now ( and possibly all others eventually) will have closed box packaging, or the small window will be open ( no plastic) probably in 2023, does make it harder to spot defects or even if the package has been tampered with and you may be getting something else completely.

I guess the only way to avoid some of those in problems is to order online.

Still...I bet next year, complaint calls are going to go up significantly, ( Getting the wrong leader class toy etc). And I don't think $5O worth of Botbots is fair compensation.

The tampering issue could be solved by something as simple as using a customized piece of tape, instead of the generic one they currently use. It could just have the Transformers logo on it or something. I don't get why they won't just do that.

I think you all overestimate the impact of scammers on the retail systems. Lego uses identifiable tape, but retailers sometimes retape boxes anyway. In any event, this is unpleasant when it happens, but the cost to stores and vendors is a fraction of the losses from other kinds of theft.

That Laser Prime is kinda gorgeous, though I OBVIOUSLY want a Scourge repaint.

~ Grim

Galvs looks great without the damage.

Loving Laser Prime to bits cannot wait for my pre-order to be fulfilled.

Starscream looks pretty good. Interesting that he comes with 4 null rays, even though he can only use 2. Or is the second pair meant to be attached to the shoulder pads only?


Wasn't Cliffjumper supposed to have painted windshield and windows instead of the translucent ones? Did something change?

getting fed up of the lackluster Galvy already -plus where is his Legacy Energon gimmick?

Also not keen on the sealed boxes but it doesnt make much difference with the amount of selects stuff in sealed boxes, bought from online.

would be great if the coneheads on the back of starscreams packaging got rereleased in SS86 with them still being really hard to find here. I must have completely missed the Takara Tomy releases of Runabout and Thrust if they ever happened.

Overall I'm liking the legacy packaging art/style.

So, I had noticed it before, but can someone give confirmation on whether or not those two posts on Bulkhead's shield/tarp cover are in fact Mini-Con connection points? It looks like they even have the signature square base with the 4 marks in the corners of them.

o.supreme wrote:Still...I bet next year, complaint calls are going to go up significantly, ( Getting the wrong leader class toy etc). And I don't think $5O worth of Botbots is fair compensation.

I don't see complaints increasing. Titans and Commanders, two more expensive classes (thus higher incentive for thievery) have had closed boxes since inception. Have there been complaints on people not finding the right commander class toy in the box when they bring it home from Target?

MCutter wrote:I'd love a Galvatron that doesn't have s**t all over him, even if I do have to fix the shoulders again.
People who have found Kingdom Blaster, does he have "battle damage?"

I just got mine in the mail and he does not have any battle damage, he looks just like he does in the stock photos for the legacy re-release.

Big Grim wrote:That Laser Prime is kinda gorgeous, though I OBVIOUSLY want a Scourge repaint.

~ Grim

And I want a Toxitron repaint! Ha ha!

william-james88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:A clean, correctly assembled Galvatron too.

Makes me feel like an idiot for getting him. Galvy is one of my faves, but I absolutely hate it when they pull crap like this.

The latest Kingdom ones are correctly assembled. I don't know about the 'clean' part, though.

The new pics show him without lots if extra paint apps, most of them being the battle damage. However, the pics also show other toys with different paint apps than we know they have. So we can't know for sure. Wont hep that he's closed box and thus you can't see if the shoulders on your are fixed or not.

The later batches of Kingdom Galvatron have the corrected shoulders, and all of the Selects versions are also correct. Early samples of the “Behold, Galvatron!” version also seem to be fine. The error at the assembly level for this mold seems to have been already addressed. I would be surprised to see it pop up again for the Legacy release, honestly. Who knows on the colors, though. We’ve learned we can’t trust the promotional photography to perfectly match the final product, but I would love it if SS86 BB Cliffjumper turns out to have a running change to restore the clear windows, or if Galvatron now lacks the battle damage for the Legacy release. I would double (actually triple) dip for that, lol!

LordBludgeon wrote:

Big Grim wrote:That Laser Prime is kinda gorgeous, though I OBVIOUSLY want a Scourge repaint.

~ Grim

And I want a Toxitron repaint! Ha ha!

Same here! Hasbro would be crazy NOT to do it.

transformnerd114 wrote:So, I had noticed it before, but can someone give confirmation on whether or not those two posts on Bulkhead's shield/tarp cover are in fact Mini-Con connection points? It looks like they even have the signature square base with the 4 marks in the corners of them.

Yup. Those definitely look like 5mm Minicon hard points. Which is weird since this is supposed to be Animated Bulkhead G1-ified and the reuse ion the mold is Prime Beast Hunters Optimus Prime neither of which had any Minicon interaction or such ports.

Unless BH Prime's weapons use those ports for something, this is either a very random inclusion, or there's another planned usage for that mold that may use those ports.

Armada Demolishor for port reference:

Galvatrons without cr@pple-damage! Praise be! Now, they just have to release Springer too that way and I think that's all of the main cast released in their "correct" paint jobs.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Burn wrote:Pretenders done right is not a difficult concept.

The shells can be articulated. Rather than splitting in half front to back, only have the upper torso split. This allows for hip and leg articulation while the shoulders stay a part of the upper back portion.

The inner robot itself may have to be scaled down a bit as they may only be able to fit in the uppoer body, but the focus should be on the outer shell.

I also think that's the way they could do it.

Such a body with a core class robot could be at the voyager price point I think.
For more "important" pretenders with transforming shells like Bludgeon (because no way he'd remain a simple pretender) and Thunderwing, they should be at the very least leader class.

THANK YOU! That's just how I feel they should work!

Though, how large are the Core class compared to Micromasters (I haven't found any of the former in my country)? If the latter are still smaller, they could do some Deluxe shells with that core robot size.

blackeyedprime wrote:plus where is his Legacy Energon gimmick?

Huh, good question. Maybe it's meant to be the cannon? It's the only thing that's translucent...

Overcracker wrote:Which is weird since this is supposed to be Animated Bulkhead G1-ified

Prime. It's meant to be Prime Bulkhead. Though I understand the confusion; the vehicle mode looks closer (if you squint very hard) to Animated's than Prime's. Which is one of the main reasons I dislike this mold with a passion.

MaximalNui wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Burn wrote:Pretenders done right is not a difficult concept.

The shells can be articulated. Rather than splitting in half front to back, only have the upper torso split. This allows for hip and leg articulation while the shoulders stay a part of the upper back portion.

The inner robot itself may have to be scaled down a bit as they may only be able to fit in the uppoer body, but the focus should be on the outer shell.

I also think that's the way they could do it.

Such a body with a core class robot could be at the voyager price point I think.
For more "important" pretenders with transforming shells like Bludgeon (because no way he'd remain a simple pretender) and Thunderwing, they should be at the very least leader class.

THANK YOU! That's just how I feel they should work!

Though, how large are the Core class compared to Micromasters (I haven't found any of the former in my country)? If the latter are still smaller, they could do some Deluxe shells with that core robot size.

The standard Core class size is roughly twice as large as a Micromaster. That said, the Bumblebee Studio Series Ravage figure is about half as big as the other Core figures, and the rumored SS86 Rumble figure will probably be Micromaster-sized. Core class is a price point and not a true size class, after all.

I've thought the same thing about Pretenders for a while too. Basically, the shell is just a "box" for the inner robot to fit into. I'm surprised no third party has made such shells for existing official toys in the past, in one form or another.

I wonder though, if Hasbro will just take the easy route and just make attachable armour pieces for various Transformers (possibly attaching via the same ports used by the "WFC" toys), which would simulate Pretender shells?

So it looks like that Cliffjumper IS going to use translucent parts.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So it looks like that Cliffjumper IS going to use translucent parts.

Maybe, but don’t get your hopes up. All samples found in the wild so far have opaque windows. These could just be earlier test shots used for the promotional and box photography, though a running change isn’t impossible.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So it looks like that Cliffjumper IS going to use translucent parts.

He's already out in Asia, he doesn't. These are the same stock images from the back of the box that showed him with clear windows.

As for Galvatron, wasn't there a leaker that said Legacy Soundwave would be painted differently from the retail version despite being a repack (which cause a ton of debate). Could it be that Hasbro is thinking "new line, new paint"? So perhaps Legacy --> WFC = repack, WFC --> Legacy = Repaint? With all the BB stuff being repainted this time around instead of repacked it wouldn't surprise me at all if something changed at Hasbro for 2022, they could be doing this for all Movie incarnations next year regardless of line. Not saying this is definitely the case, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were either.

Emerje

Good lawd I can't wait for Black Convoy. And is Galvatron a different shade of purple???