ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I reiterate that rehashing the Seekers this time is such unnecessary garbage that even a Masterpiece version of ROTF Wheelie would be a better use of resources.
Kurona wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I reiterate that rehashing the Seekers this time is such unnecessary garbage that even a Masterpiece version of ROTF Wheelie would be a better use of resources.
why lol
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I have no horse in this race, as MP Galvatron is all I want from G1. That said, this is Bad Comedy.
Obviously the other redundant joke of the G1 MP line to make: let's sound off how many Transformers, that don't have licensing rights issues, could have been added to this line in place of the multitude of rehashed figures?
I think we'd be into the Takara Series by now...
Immortal Starscream wrote: I look at this silhouette, and immediately I am thinking, "yup, they're going to want $300 for that"
Sowndwave76 wrote:I do understand people wanting something left, right, or "beyond" cartoon accuracy... What I don't understand is someone trying to say "perfect fusion" of cartoon design and something
Black Hat wrote:I think the thing with the modern MP line is the direction change from the previously established (and IMO superior) philosophy of design of the MP10/Hasui era. Back then, they realized that just looking as close to the cartoon as possible no matter the cost did not make for a fun toy or a good looking one- redesigning was necessary for a figure that handled well and looked good. Most if not all of the MPs from that era were stellar- Soundwave, the Hasui-designed cars, MP-10 himself (who has become so synonymous with Optimus Prime I sometimes go to call Prime "MP-10") are all absolutely fantastic figures which have stood the test of time, look great, are fun to pose and transform and don't cost a small fortune.
Modern MPs, on the other hand, have good articulation but little else going for them. They cost a ridiculous amount, are nightmares to transform (and egregiously abuse faux-parts), have some questionable QC and worst of all don't look that great. The subtle, quasi-realistic stylings and added details are all gone in favour of barren panels that are then broken up with hinges and joint seams anyway, the backpacks are horrendously clunky, many of the sculpting and painting decisions (such as the rounded fingers and grey faces instead of silver) look a biiiiit weird, and all in service to getting accuracy to a cartoon that A: couldn't stay accurate to itself and B: didn't look all that great anyway. If the animation was inconsistent with proportions but looked uniformly gorgeous (see: lots of late 80s/early 90s anime) I could understand it, or if they based the toys specifically on the concept art and tried to replicate Floro Dery's undeniably talented artwork, then fair enough. But as much as I love it, the cartoon wasn't exactly Escaflowne quality in visuals, and yet they completely abandoned all other influences than the cartoon- and even that they couldn't quite get right!
Whilst 3Ps do exist, and are generally more affordable (and sadly better built) than their official counterparts, they have been playing a bit of "follow the leader" with embracing full cartoon-literalism, meaning for those of us who just want more Hasui-style MPs the choices are very, very limited.
So yeah, I'm mainly frustrated that instead of carrying on with the aesthetic and design approach that gave us joys like Wheeljack and Soundwave, we're instead getting things like Bumblebee 2.0 (YEURCH) and Hound, with skyrocketing prices and plummeting QC to boot.
william-james88 wrote:Dread it. Run from it. A new Masterpiece seeker mold was going to arrive all the same. And now... it's here.
Tuned Agent wrote:william-james88 wrote:Dread it. Run from it. A new Masterpiece seeker mold was going to arrive all the same. And now... it's here.
MPs aren't my thing so I'm not interested in the figure, though I am curious to see how it turns out. But this reference... does put a smile on my face.
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
Burn wrote:-WonkoTheSane- wrote:Burn wrote:Given that, as a collector, I (and no doubt many others) have been priced out of collecting Masterpieces, I'm okay with them rehashing the Seekers.
Just means I won't have to sit in the corner and sulk because I can no longer afford MP's and I have to miss out. So ... yay?
I agree. I really don't know why I'm complaining, The last MP I bought was MP36. With the price increases (And IMO some iffy design choices) That seemed to me to be a good jumping off point.
It's not that I wanted to jump off, but when Hound and Arcee come in at almost twice (factor in dollar conversion) what I was paying for other MP's of the same size ... it just becomes ridiculous.
-WonkoTheSane- wrote:Burn wrote:-WonkoTheSane- wrote:Burn wrote:Given that, as a collector, I (and no doubt many others) have been priced out of collecting Masterpieces, I'm okay with them rehashing the Seekers.
Just means I won't have to sit in the corner and sulk because I can no longer afford MP's and I have to miss out. So ... yay?
I agree. I really don't know why I'm complaining, The last MP I bought was MP36. With the price increases (And IMO some iffy design choices) That seemed to me to be a good jumping off point.
It's not that I wanted to jump off, but when Hound and Arcee come in at almost twice (factor in dollar conversion) what I was paying for other MP's of the same size ... it just becomes ridiculous.
I never wanted to jump off either, I was more forced off, To be honest. I just decided if I couldn't afford them anymore, The last one I bought would be one I really wanted.
I just feel like Takara doesn't want us for a target audience anymore.
I think at this point, They don't want people who have a budget, They want people with endless caverns of disposable income.
That isn't me. And I assume, Isn't a lot of others as well.
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
Return to Transformers Toys Discussion
Registered users: Bing [Bot], Glyph, Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], Yahoo [Bot]