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to bad inferno doesnt get his own set of limbs so he has to share with Elita-1

Wolfman Jake wrote:In the interest of making sure the topic doesn't stray away from Power of the Primes, does anyone else think that the upcoming PotP Inferno makes a great stand-in for G1 Hosehead/Cab? I'd want to swap the head out, preferably for the Titanmaster Cab mentioned above from the God Girnai giftset, but it would require some major modifications to make the Headmaster gimmick really work well in robot mode. I assume Lug/Cab can just hang out in the ladder bucket it vehicle mode.

That's... actually not a bad idea.

Emerje

I wish it just came with the hotspot head and a nice G2 sign.

Shapeways can you hoot it up?

Emerje wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:In the interest of making sure the topic doesn't stray away from Power of the Primes, does anyone else think that the upcoming PotP Inferno makes a great stand-in for G1 Hosehead/Cab? I'd want to swap the head out, preferably for the Titanmaster Cab mentioned above from the God Girnai giftset, but it would require some major modifications to make the Headmaster gimmick really work well in robot mode. I assume Lug/Cab can just hang out in the ladder bucket it vehicle mode.

That's... actually not a bad idea.

Emerje

Well what about this.
Could someone one shapeways make a new neck plate so you could have Inferno's head on one side, and a Titan Master port for Cab on the other?

Should have made Inferno a new mold and just given us the G2 Protectobots

I will be picking this up. I just hope there also will be a Sideswipe. He would be Inferno's limb along with Ironhide and maybe Smokescreen and Blades.

IS IT JUST ME?

Doesnt seem is half-assing the whole POTP line?

* shortage of 'Limb-bots"
* Deluxes get a single weapon. ie, Dinos get a sword OR gun, etc...
* Despite numerous examples of what fans come to expect of our getalts (3rd party, Combiner Wars, etc...) we still get weak saue & incopleteness.
* only 4 waves?!

i looks or feels like is just trying to hurry it along,
as if
THEY have become bored
and just cant wait to puke it out ad move on.

i am sorely disappointed.

Z3ROhour wrote:IS IT JUST ME?

Doesnt seem is half-assing the whole POTP line?

* shortage of 'Limb-bots"
* Deluxes get a single weapon. ie, Dinos get a sword OR gun, etc...
* Despite numerous examples of what fans come to expect of our getalts (3rd party, Combiner Wars, etc...) we still get weak saue & incopleteness.
* only 4 waves?!

You forget that CW deluxes only came with one dedicated weapon. The 2nd was the HFG which was just a way to give each figure the Hand/Foot for their limb mode. While (in my Opinion) the prime armour/combiner hands are less 'multi-faceted' than the HFG's, they are ultimately still only there to give the limb modes a hand/fist.

Persoinally I like to use the prime armours as shields or power fists.

Z3ROhour wrote:IS IT JUST ME?

Doesnt seem is half-assing the whole POTP line?

* shortage of 'Limb-bots"
* Deluxes get a single weapon. ie, Dinos get a sword OR gun, etc...
* Despite numerous examples of what fans come to expect of our getalts (3rd party, Combiner Wars, etc...) we still get weak saue & incopleteness.
* only 4 waves?!

i looks or feels like is just trying to hurry it along,
as if
THEY have become bored
and just cant wait to puke it out ad move on.

i am sorely disappointed.

Given how quicly they announced it and had a fan poll, it seems they are already looking at War for Cybertron. I'm not annoyed with the Deluxes have 1 weapon, I'm more annoyed with the Voyagers have no weapons, where's Grimlock's sword?

Sabrblade wrote:

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

Don't you think they would do some kind of redeco just to squeeze a few more bucks out of the mold? Seems like a waste from a business standpoint.

RiddlerJ wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

Don't you think they would do some kind of redeco just to squeeze a few more bucks out of the mold? Seems like a waste from a business standpoint.

Well, Orion/Optimus isn't getting reused either.

Skritz wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

Don't you think they would do some kind of redeco just to squeeze a few more bucks out of the mold? Seems like a waste from a business standpoint.

Well, Orion/Optimus isn't getting reused either.

You'd better believe there will be a "Nemesis Prime" repaint of PotP Optimus Prime at some point in the future, even if it's just a Takara Tomy exclusive figure. Japan can't say no to a black repaint of an Optimus Prime mold.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Skritz wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

Don't you think they would do some kind of redeco just to squeeze a few more bucks out of the mold? Seems like a waste from a business standpoint.

Well, Orion/Optimus isn't getting reused either.

You'd better believe there will be a "Nemesis Prime" repaint of PotP Optimus Prime at some point in the future, even if it's just a Takara Tomy exclusive figure. Japan can't say no to a black repaint of an Optimus Prime mold.

Nah, Rodimus Unicronus will fit that niche rather nicely.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Skritz wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

Don't you think they would do some kind of redeco just to squeeze a few more bucks out of the mold? Seems like a waste from a business standpoint.

Well, Orion/Optimus isn't getting reused either.

You'd better believe there will be a "Nemesis Prime" repaint of PotP Optimus Prime at some point in the future, even if it's just a Takara Tomy exclusive figure. Japan can't say no to a black repaint of an Optimus Prime mold.

Nah, Rodimus Unicronus will fit that niche rather nicely.

Why have one when you can have both? Believe me, Takara won't disappoint. Also, I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to do one as an SDCC exclusive, if they again don't do a special edition of the year's Titan Class figure.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Why have one when you can have both? Believe me, Takara won't disappoint. Also, I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to do one as an SDCC exclusive, if they again don't do a special edition of the year's Titan Class figure.

Black "Nemesis Prime" or "Scourge" repaints are another thing that came to an end at Hasbro when Warden took over. Yeah, we got one last year at SDCC, but that was only because their deal with Primitive Skate just happened to result in a black Prime. I think the last time we got a real one was the 2014 Legends figure which was probably already planned before he joined despite being a line ending figure (being a simple repaint in a case with another simple repaint). Nemesis Prime and Primal Prime seem pretty unlikely. I'd sooner believe we'll get a metallic Predaking with sword.

Emerje

What would warden hate about nemesis prime though? Was it that he didn't like a lazy repaint of prime? That he didn't exist in g1? (if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?) Not liking beast characters is one thing since that's still an issue with the fan base at times, with its detractors being much louder than others. But this seems like hating a repaint for little reason

ZeroWolf wrote:What would warden hate about nemesis prime though? Was it that he didn't like a lazy repaint of prime? That he didn't exist in g1? (if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?) Not liking beast characters is one thing since that's still an issue with the fan base at times, with its detractors being much louder than others. But this seems like hating a repaint for little reason

Who knows? It's been observed for a while now that there have been plenty of missed opportunities to black repaints that have been missed by Hasbro but still fully taken advantage of by Takara Tomy. There was a time when both companies were doing them in different ways, but now it's all TT. Either Warden doesn't like them or they're just content with us importing from TT. This is the same guy who's official stance on not celebrating Beast War's 20th anniversary was because TT was celebrating it and Hasbro didn't have to celebrate an anniversary on the anniversary (two years later they still haven't celebrated it). That was when we first realized Warden didn't like Beast Wars.

Emerje

ZeroWolf wrote:(if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?)

The first evil black Optimus redeco ever was BotCon 1996 Onyx Primal, while the first one to appear in fiction (as evil, since Onyx was rewritten as a Maximal when he finally appeared in fiction) was Copy Convoy from Beast Wars Second.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Why have one when you can have both? Believe me, Takara won't disappoint. Also, I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to do one as an SDCC exclusive, if they again don't do a special edition of the year's Titan Class figure.

Ooooooooh. A chromed out PotP Primal would be nice. Just like the original.

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:What would warden hate about nemesis prime though? Was it that he didn't like a lazy repaint of prime? That he didn't exist in g1? (if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?) Not liking beast characters is one thing since that's still an issue with the fan base at times, with its detractors being much louder than others. But this seems like hating a repaint for little reason

Who knows? It's been observed for a while now that there have been plenty of missed opportunities to black repaints that have been missed by Hasbro but still fully taken advantage of by Takara Tomy. There was a time when both companies were doing them in different ways, but now it's all TT. Either Warden doesn't like them or they're just content with us importing from TT. This is the same guy who's official stance on not celebrating Beast War's 20th anniversary was because TT was celebrating it and Hasbro didn't have to celebrate an anniversary on the anniversary (two years later they still haven't celebrated it). That was when we first realized Warden didn't like Beast Wars.

Emerje

Well he dislikes Beast Wars, guy can't be all bad, it was a terrible toy line with a mediocre cartoon show

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nah, Rodimus Unicronus will fit that niche rather nicely.

I thought was not releasing RU ?

Volcanicus is interesting. Not decided yet on if I'm gonna display in combined form or not. The individual bots are all pretty great.

o.supreme wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nah, Rodimus Unicronus will fit that niche rather nicely.

I thought was not releasing RU ?

Not in the main line, but as a potantial exclusive he fits the "evil black redeco" bill almost perfectly.

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:What would warden hate about nemesis prime though? Was it that he didn't like a lazy repaint of prime? That he didn't exist in g1? (if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?) Not liking beast characters is one thing since that's still an issue with the fan base at times, with its detractors being much louder than others. But this seems like hating a repaint for little reason

Who knows? It's been observed for a while now that there have been plenty of missed opportunities to black repaints that have been missed by Hasbro but still fully taken advantage of by Takara Tomy. There was a time when both companies were doing them in different ways, but now it's all TT. Either Warden doesn't like them or they're just content with us importing from TT. This is the same guy who's official stance on not celebrating Beast War's 20th anniversary was because TT was celebrating it and Hasbro didn't have to celebrate an anniversary on the anniversary (two years later they still haven't celebrated it). That was when we first realized Warden didn't like Beast Wars.

Emerje

Who says it has to be a black repaint?

Primal Prime repainted into...Leader class Beastbox!

More likely a very lazy mans Apeface repaint.