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We haven't seen a Megatron either. I'm fully expecting to see them be a recolour or a Prime Master in some later wave - how can they pass up Classic Pretender Bumblebee? - but for the first 3/4 waves, nothing from either of them. Or Soundwave!

Kurona wrote:how can they pass up Classic Pretender Bumblebee?

I think it's on purpose. How to explain a Prime is hidden inside a shell called Bumblebee ?

ExciKaiser wrote:

Kurona wrote:how can they pass up Classic Pretender Bumblebee?

I think it's on purpose. How to explain a Prime is hidden inside a shell called Bumblebee ?

"Dubbing him The Chosen One, PRIMA™ grants the energy of his spark to BUMBLEBEE™, powering up the hero as CLASSIC PRETENDER BUMBLEBEE™ to fight off the evil DECEPTICONS™!"

Kurona wrote:

ExciKaiser wrote:

Kurona wrote:how can they pass up Classic Pretender Bumblebee?

I think it's on purpose. How to explain a Prime is hidden inside a shell called Bumblebee ?

"Dubbing him The Chosen One, PRIMA™ grants the energy of his spark to BUMBLEBEE™, powering up the hero as CLASSIC PRETENDER BUMBLEBEE™ to fight off the evil DECEPTICONS™!"

Sounds good to me!

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

Kurona wrote:

ExciKaiser wrote:

Kurona wrote:how can they pass up Classic Pretender Bumblebee?

I think it's on purpose. How to explain a Prime is hidden inside a shell called Bumblebee ?

"Dubbing him The Chosen One, PRIMA™ grants the energy of his spark to BUMBLEBEE™, powering up the hero as CLASSIC PRETENDER BUMBLEBEE™ to fight off the evil DECEPTICONS™!"

Sounds good to me!

Yeah u know 'Bee!Even with a live action movie coming, how could they skip him in PotP?
I'm bored with 'Bee, too, but I wasn't a big fan back in the day, honestly. I get his appeal, but I always preferred characters like Jazz, Soundwave, etc.

I liked that he "grew up" in RID and the comics, though....

Kurona wrote: how can they pass up Classic Pretender Bumblebee?

or even Grimlock?(he was a Pretender too )

Yeah, about Pretender Grimlock.....I really think the humanoid Pretenders will work great with the Prime Master scale, possibly improving their overall look.

bodrock wrote:Yeah, about Pretender Grimlock.....

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I really think the humanoid Pretenders will work great with the Prime Master scale, possibly improving their overall look.

I didn't know that Richard Nixon was a Pretender.

bodrock wrote:

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Ugh, Grimlock has been hanging out with Wheelie again (or post-movie Blaster).

Nixon, you say?
But yeah, I'm definitely eager to hear more about the PMs at Hascon....

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I didn't know that Richard Nixon was a Pretender.

beat me to it, I almost spit my soda when I saw that I never examined the Pretender Autobot heads so closely. Also now that you think about it...shouldn't Pretender Starscream have been a monster of some sort?...

Absolutely Starscream should have, o.supreme! Instead, they gave him the Dark Lord treatment or something. Then again, Starscream is quite conceited, so perhaps his shell wouldn't be monstrous....

I have him with my Pretenders here, but in his Bearbrick form.

Of all the Pretender faces, though, Jazz was the worst imho. I don't expect he will be a PM though...

Alas, if only that Titan Master Pretender 6-pack proposal from Fun Pub had been able to get made.

That sounds like something I would've needed in my life, Sabrblade!

bodrock wrote:That sounds like something I would've needed in my life, Sabrblade!

You can find pics and info on them (and much more goodies) here.

I'd recommend any comments on them (or anything else from that post) be posted in that thread, so as to avoid veering this thread off topic.

william-james88 wrote:And think of it this way, if he was a voyager, Hasbro would have made him as tall as Springer anyway so you still wouldnt have been happy.

The only reason I am not yet happy is because I haven't seen Hot Rod's deluxe mode yet. Only the car and car with trailer modes, and Rodimus Prime. Any images of Hot Rod by himself in robot mode yet? From the way the legs look, seems like he might have some... very stiff hips. Might not even move forward at all. Unless you can pull the legs down to reveal extra joints.

Also was that latest rumor post about leaked PotP images deleted?

SillyMcGilly wrote:

william-james88 wrote:And think of it this way, if he was a voyager, Hasbro would have made him as tall as Springer anyway so you still wouldnt have been happy.

The only reason I am not yet happy is because I haven't seen Hot Rod's deluxe mode yet. Only the car and car with trailer modes, and Rodimus Prime. Any images of Hot Rod by himself in robot mode yet? From the way the legs look, seems like he might have some... very stiff hips. Might not even move forward at all. Unless you can pull the legs down to reveal extra joints.

You can see parts of the Deluxe mode with the chest opened up. The Deluxe arms fold into the chest cavity, and Hot Rod actually does the splits for Prime mode with the legs becoming the shoulders. The Prime arms then attach to them. In short, Hot Rod folds up and the trailer attaches around him.

Also was that latest rumor post about leaked PotP images deleted?

Hasbro threw a wrench into that one. The leak was pretty significant, as it showed most if not all product for all of 2018.

o.supreme wrote:Combiner #1
V:Starscream
D:Dreadwind, Blackwing (and 2 others to be revealed)
L:To Be revealed? (assuming there will be Legends 6th members?)

I would guess Skywarp and Thundercracker (scale be damned) to round out the limbs and hopefully Sunstorm as the Legend from the original Generations Seeker mold to finally complete the major Seekers (doesn't even have to integrate, I just want a Legends Sunstorm already).

Combiner #4
V:Inferno
D:Jazz (and 3 others to be revealed)
L:To be Revealed? (perhaps Beachcomber or Windcharger?)

I'm going to go with silver Bluestreak (finish out the trio properly), Sideswipe (everyone says Jazz looks like Braver's alt mode so why not Laster's alt mode?) and Hoist (based on CW Trailbreaker).

mordhelm wrote:Thinking about Predaking as a Titan with 5 Voyager class figures, a couple of thoughts come to mind.

First, does this mean we may see a price break with the Titan Class? $150 is a lot to swallow for 5 voyagers, even if it is Predaking. The parts count and amount of material used should be significantly less than the other 4 Titans. Back to $120 maybe? While I would love for that to be the case, I am probably buying it either way.

It wouldn't be too hard to pad the price by making the individual figures properly bulky like Longhaul was, give him a huge changing gun like the original had, a massive sword like Predaking should, massive wings, and oversized feet like the original to hold it all up.

Second, in terms of size, I am thinking he will scale just fine with the 1 Voyager, 4 Deluxe combiners if they are typical Voyager sized bots. My guess is 15-16ish inch height, but bulky (basically a head shorter than Devastator).

I think sticking with 18" like Devastator would still be properly scaled to regular combiner. I'm much more on board with Predaking being a massive monster than Devastator. (Still bought a Japanese Devi, though.)

bodrock wrote:Absolutely Starscream should have, o.supreme! Instead, they gave him the Dark Lord treatment or something. Then again, Starscream is quite conceited, so perhaps his shell wouldn't be monstrous....

The Decepticons got the more humanoid Starscream and Stranglehold, while the Autobots got the more unusual Doubleheader and monstrous Longtooth so it sort of even outs.

On another note, I want Leader class Optimus and Megatron to both have smaller bot modes that resemble their G1, or for Megatron G2, selves, but then evolve into Star Convoy and Super Megatron when combined with their trailers. And yeah, Megatron can have a trailer. I basically want him to be a giant main line version of this. Can you guess where Super Megatron's canon would go?

Emerje

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SillyMcGilly wrote:

william-james88 wrote:And think of it this way, if he was a voyager, Hasbro would have made him as tall as Springer anyway so you still wouldnt have been happy.

The only reason I am not yet happy is because I haven't seen Hot Rod's deluxe mode yet. Only the car and car with trailer modes, and Rodimus Prime. Any images of Hot Rod by himself in robot mode yet? From the way the legs look, seems like he might have some... very stiff hips. Might not even move forward at all. Unless you can pull the legs down to reveal extra joints.

You can see parts of the Deluxe mode with the chest opened up. The Deluxe arms fold into the chest cavity, and Hot Rod actually does the splits for Prime mode with the legs becoming the shoulders. The Prime arms then attach to them. In short, Hot Rod folds up and the trailer attaches around him.

You know, I could swear we did get a pic of Hot Rod's Deluxe Class figure somewhere along the line here, and I'm not talking about the leaked pictures either. I distinctly remember looking at it and thinking, "that's even better than the Titans Return mold!"

Wolfman Jake wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SillyMcGilly wrote:

william-james88 wrote:And think of it this way, if he was a voyager, Hasbro would have made him as tall as Springer anyway so you still wouldnt have been happy.

The only reason I am not yet happy is because I haven't seen Hot Rod's deluxe mode yet. Only the car and car with trailer modes, and Rodimus Prime. Any images of Hot Rod by himself in robot mode yet? From the way the legs look, seems like he might have some... very stiff hips. Might not even move forward at all. Unless you can pull the legs down to reveal extra joints.

You can see parts of the Deluxe mode with the chest opened up. The Deluxe arms fold into the chest cavity, and Hot Rod actually does the splits for Prime mode with the legs becoming the shoulders. The Prime arms then attach to them. In short, Hot Rod folds up and the trailer attaches around him.

You know, I could swear we did get a pic of Hot Rod's Deluxe Class figure somewhere along the line here, and I'm not talking about the leaked pictures either. I distinctly remember looking at it and thinking, "that's even better than the Titans Return mold!"

We never did, officially. The stock photos showed Hot Rod's vehicle mode with Rodimus Prime's robot mode. Kinda misleading, that.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SillyMcGilly wrote:

william-james88 wrote:And think of it this way, if he was a voyager, Hasbro would have made him as tall as Springer anyway so you still wouldnt have been happy.

The only reason I am not yet happy is because I haven't seen Hot Rod's deluxe mode yet. Only the car and car with trailer modes, and Rodimus Prime. Any images of Hot Rod by himself in robot mode yet? From the way the legs look, seems like he might have some... very stiff hips. Might not even move forward at all. Unless you can pull the legs down to reveal extra joints.

You can see parts of the Deluxe mode with the chest opened up. The Deluxe arms fold into the chest cavity, and Hot Rod actually does the splits for Prime mode with the legs becoming the shoulders. The Prime arms then attach to them. In short, Hot Rod folds up and the trailer attaches around him.

You know, I could swear we did get a pic of Hot Rod's Deluxe Class figure somewhere along the line here, and I'm not talking about the leaked pictures either. I distinctly remember looking at it and thinking, "that's even better than the Titans Return mold!"

We never did, officially. The stock photos showed Hot Rod's vehicle mode with Rodimus Prime's robot mode. Kinda misleading, that.

*cough, cough*

NOBLExGAMER wrote:Pretty sure this is the first pic of the Deluxe Hot Rod

Well what do you know.... partsforming confirmed

Hot Rod's Smaller Robot mode is in the pics Hasbro released on their Facebook page so was one of he 1st official pictures of POTP we saw.

That said that image slightly above does remind me that it's worth noting that his gun splits.

I still think the hidden feature here is that:
1) All the leaders back ends have another mode - in the case of Rodimus & Optimus a base mode.

2) All the leaders front ends are the same width and because the arms and legs are from the trailer and the Torso and head from the cab - you can swap them over and put Optimus jnr (Orion Pax possibly) in Rodimus' body and vice versa.

I am interested to see if Optimus is Optimus or Orion though - it's a shame that Hasbro isn't the sort of company to give you an alternative head though for those who hold no special desire for a premium Orion Pax figure - or vice versa wanted Orion but get Optimus.

I can deal with it being Orion if it looks like cartoon Orion - if however it look like Optimus with an Orion head on it or is more of less IDW style which is just calling it Orion as it lacks the Matrix then I'm OK with that.

I would personally prefer one or the other though a very strongly Orion Pax looking figure or Just something that looks like a smaller Optimus regardless what it's called.. this also has the advantage of being something that can be easily repainted into Nemesis Prime / Scourge and not looking silly as a consequence.
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I agree a Legends Sunstorm would be nice, I struggle a bit to see the point of Windcharger when Huffer/Pipes are more suitable for an update - I suspect the real reason is to allow them to make Tailgate. which does rather raise the point if they feel the need to update Windcharger a character who has 2 perfectly good toys already - does that mean they are gonna do the same to Swerve and Gears too ?

If they were in a mood to do Minibots Bumper might have been worth doing.

RAR wrote:Hot Rod's Smaller Robot mode is in the pics Hasbro released on their Facebook page so was one of he 1st official pictures of POTP we saw.

No, that above is the one and only shot we have of Hot Rod in bot mode. The Facebook images screwed up and put a picture of Rodimus Prime in place of Hot Rod's bot mode, and for the image of Rodimus Prime they used a pic of him with his chest open that shows off the Matrix.




But, wait, people thought there was no partsforming on him? Then how did you think the top of the Winnebago got to the bottom of Hot Rod's legs to make Rodimus Prime's arms?

You know, now that I look at it closer, it almost looks like Rodimus' biceps connect with CW joints. You can see them on the top of the alt mode.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:You know, now that I look at it closer, it almost looks like Rodimus' biceps connect with CW joints. You can see them on the top of the alt mode.

Emerje

Oh god yes. I hope the CW pegs start to become the mini-con ports of the Unicron Trilogy; where they keep showing up even if it's not aligned with the line's theme and the gimmick has officially long gone. First Godbomber, now this