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That is Dreadwind. I don't see a single Jazz in that pic. (Unless you have yet to post it.)

WreckerJack wrote:That is Dreadwind. I don't see a single Jazz in that pic. (Unless you have yet to post it.)

By "popular", he means that Jazz and the Dinobots were all bought but not Dreadwind.


And, yeah, Dreadwind wasn't a cartoon character, Will, so it makes sense that he gets left behind.

william-james88 wrote:Dear Lord, someone's unpopular



Also Holy ****, this means my TRU stocked that first wave to kingdom come. We always knew the dinobots would sell regardless, but who knew Jazz was that popular

Yeah I kind of had the same experience with Dreadwind. I saw a whole 4 of him at one store one time! (The most I've ever seen). He's definitely a shelf warmer (not saying you are wrong wj, just again pointing out the disparity between in stock PotP in Canada vs U.S. For me, seeing 4 of anything (other than Prime Masters) is almost unheard of thus far.

WreckerJack wrote:That is Dreadwind. I don't see a single Jazz in that pic. (Unless you have yet to post it.)

Yeah, thats wht I mean, he isnt there proving that he must be popular. And assuming some Dreadwinds sols (I know i bought one from that place), then it must mean there were a ton of cases and all those Jazzes sold super well.

And Sabre, this brings about a good point. I always supported the idea that Hasbro made toys primarily for kids and that the older fans were but a subset of the market. If the reason for Dreadwind not selling is because he was not in a 30 year old show, then that means that this show is a determining factor and not just the toys themselves, and yet I am assuming little kids havent watched G1 enough to know who Jazz is. So these toys must be bought mainly by fans. Is that wrong to assume? Or maybe its just because cars are cooler than planes or the MAGA thing made him more collectable (like the time suddenly everybody ws walking into a comic shop because there was a cover of Obama and Spider-man).

o.supreme wrote:Well I could see that perhaps with the Voyagers. But the Deluxes for SS are boxed while for PotP they are carded, its a pretty big difference. Also the Price Points are different, as is the SKU (even though they are both labeled as Generations). I would hope most retailers would know the difference.

And yet, I went to a Target a few days ago to find them completely out of PotP deluxes, but the pegs for the PotP deluxes were filled with SS deluxes. If they are filling an empty peg, it doesn't even matter if they look similar or not, the general name would be enough to confuse an employee that is not a TF expert like most of us collectors are.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Well I could see that perhaps with the Voyagers. But the Deluxes for SS are boxed while for PotP they are carded, its a pretty big difference. Also the Price Points are different, as is the SKU (even though they are both labeled as Generations). I would hope most retailers would know the difference.

And yet, I went to a Target a few days ago to find them completely out of PotP deluxes, but the pegs for the PotP deluxes were filled with SS deluxes. If they are filling an empty peg, it doesn't even matter if they look similar or not, the general name would be enough to confuse an employee that is not a TF expert like most of us collectors are.

ok I'm confused now. Do the Studio Series deluxe Boxes even have plastic peg holders (like TLK packaging?), every Walmart I've been to, they just put the box on a shelf, not hanging them on pegs....I guess I didn't pay enough attention to the packaging since they really don't interest me. If they do that's even worse. Stores are going to be clogged with these things and PotP will get choked out.

o.supreme wrote:ok I'm confused now. Do the Studio Series deluxe Boxes even have plastic peg holders (like TLK packaging?), every Walmart I've been to, they just put the box on a shelf, not hanging them on pegs....I guess I didn't pay enough attention to the packaging since they really don't interest me. If they do that's even worse. Stores are going to be clogged with these things and PotP will get choked out.

Yes, the Studio Series deluxe class figures have plastic peg holders.

^ Thanks. So...I guess this is a case of which is worse...Putting them on the wrong (PotP) pegs, or not using pegs at all and just placing them on a shelf....

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Dear Lord, someone's unpopular



Also Holy ****, this means my TRU stocked that first wave to kingdom come. We always knew the dinobots would sell regardless, but who knew Jazz was that popular

Yeah I kind of had the same experience with Dreadwind. I saw a whole 4 of him at one store one time! (The most I've ever seen). He's definitely a shelf warmer (not saying you are wrong wj, just again pointing out the disparity between in stock PotP in Canada vs U.S. For me, seeing 4 of anything (other than Prime Masters) is almost unheard of thus far.

After work I checked my local Wal-Mart and TRU: nothing but Wave 1 restock and Studio Series.

Don't forget, Jazz is a movie character, was in WFC/FOC, and was in RiD, so his name has gotten plenty of exposure over the past few years, unlike Dreadwind, with Prime Dreadwing being the closest he's gotten since his Universe toy I believe (or was that Darkwing?)

It's a shame Dreadwind isn't popular because his toy is pretty great in spite of him being a cousin of the CW Aerialbots.

They should have included him in a comic or something at the very least.

WreckerJack wrote:They should have included him in a comic or something at the very least.

He's been in the Marvel G1 comics, the BotCon Classics comics, Regeneration One, parts of IDW G1, and a few minor things.

In fact, he was the longest-running host of the Marvel UK letters pages, from issues 184 to 299, a whopping 116 issues, with Grimlock being second only to him, having hosted the letters pages from 75 to 182 (108 issues). During his tenure of "Dread Tidings", Dreadwind would refer to humans as "humes", made the first indirect reference in the West to Super-God Masterforce airing in Malaysia, and even starred in his own Christmas text story that was a parody of A Christmas Carol.

Sabrblade wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:They should have included him in a comic or something at the very least.

He's been in the Marvel G1 comics, the BotCon Classics comics, Regeneration One, parts of IDW G1, and a few minor things.

In fact, he was the longest-running host of the Marvel UK letters pages, from issues 184 to 299, a whopping 116 issues, with Grimlock being second only to him, having hosted the letters pages from 75 to 182 (108 issues). During his tenure of "Dread Tidings", Dreadwind would refer to humans as "humes", made the first indirect reference in the West to Super-God Masterforce airing in Malaysia, and even starred in his own Christmas text story that was a parody of A Christmas Carol.

they were fun to watch on masterforce

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:They should have included him in a comic or something at the very least.

He's been in the Marvel G1 comics, the BotCon Classics comics, Regeneration One, parts of IDW G1, and a few minor things.

In fact, he was the longest-running host of the Marvel UK letters pages, from issues 184 to 299, a whopping 116 issues, with Grimlock being second only to him, having hosted the letters pages from 75 to 182 (108 issues). During his tenure of "Dread Tidings", Dreadwind would refer to humans as "humes", made the first indirect reference in the West to Super-God Masterforce airing in Malaysia, and even starred in his own Christmas text story that was a parody of A Christmas Carol.

they were fun to watch on masterforce

That was Buster, not Dreadwind.

Sabrblade wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:They should have included him in a comic or something at the very least.

He's been in the Marvel G1 comics, the BotCon Classics comics, Regeneration One, parts of IDW G1, and a few minor things.

In fact, he was the longest-running host of the Marvel UK letters pages, from issues 184 to 299, a whopping 116 issues, with Grimlock being second only to him, having hosted the letters pages from 75 to 182 (108 issues). During his tenure of "Dread Tidings", Dreadwind would refer to humans as "humes", made the first indirect reference in the West to Super-God Masterforce airing in Malaysia, and even starred in his own Christmas text story that was a parody of A Christmas Carol.

they were fun to watch on masterforce

That was Buster, not Dreadwind.

I know I'm just saying that it was fun watching them as those other guys

Got Skullgrin/Liege Maximo today.

As an update to Skullgrin he's kinda lame. As a representation of Liege Maximo he's also pretty weak. But as a little sentient "Matrix of Corruption" entombed within a sarcophagus that can also form a "Hand of Command" he's damn cool. Especially for £6.

Black Hat wrote:Got Skullgrin/Liege Maximo today.

As an update to Skullgrin he's kinda lame. As a representation of Liege Maximo he's also pretty weak. But as a little sentient "Matrix of Corruption" entombed within a sarcophagus that can also form a "Hand of Command" he's damn cool. Especially for £6.

He'd be a much better Liege Maximo if his 'Matrix' was green, obviously, but that's the issue with most Prime Masters: they are closer to the Pretender character than the Prime they represent. For some it works (see: the upcoming Solus) but for most it doesn't.

We've already seen a number of the 'Leaked from Cybertron' mini clips, showing a quick carousel of images for figures from the line - usually schematics, prototypes and the final stock image of the toy - including the whole collection of Dinobots from the first waves: Swoop, Snarl, Sludge, Slash (plus Studio Series Blackout and Grimlock).

But today we bring you the core element of new Dinobot combiner Volcanicus, and the figure doing the crunches: Power of the Primes voyager Grimlock! Check out the three rotating images below, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub - have you formed the new gestalt yet? Is there anything else you'd like to see from the line?

Va'al wrote:We've already seen a number of the 'Leaked from Cybertron' mini clips, showing a quick carousel of images for figures from the line - usually schematics, prototypes and the final stock image of the toy - including the whole collection of Dinobots from the first waves: Swoop, Snarl, Sludge, Slash (plus Studio Series Blackout and Grimlock).

But today we bring you the core element of new Dinobot combiner Volcanicus, and the figure doing the crunches: Power of the Primes voyager Grimlock! Check out the three rotating images below, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub - have you formed the new gestalt yet? Is there anything else you'd like to see from the line?

Looking at the concept sketches, and the final version, my first thought is, 'What went wrong?' The forelegs and the toe claws looked SO much better in concept. The final version has those dinky little stubs on the toes, and them gargantuan thighs. I know sacrifices had to be made for a gestalt mode, but it still feels like they phoned it in.

will the retailer stores skip waves like they did last year in favor of bayformer toys? because I have never seen wave 2 of the deluxes of transformers power of the prime toys. last year never saw twin twist, overlord, misfire, etc. I barely saw sixshot and trypticon. distribution shouldn't be this bad but unfortunately it is. i'm wondering if i'll ever see either sludge and snarl on the shelves?

If it hasn't already been discussed, Amazon US has a listing up for Counterpunch: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077ZBCPDV
While Amazon Canada has a listing for Repugnus: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0785P78QD

Found a Hun-Gurr and Elita-1 at the local Wal-Mart. Didn't buy either for now but it's good to see they have indeed appeared at retail.

Munkky wrote:If it hasn't already been discussed, Amazon US has a listing up for Counterpunch: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077ZBCPDV
While Amazon Canada has a listing for Repugnus: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0785P78QD

Yeah, we've debated just what these figures will actually be earlier this year when they were listed on other stores. They're expected to be part of May Mayhem, but Hasbro is being ridiculously silent on that. I'm still hoping Repugnus is a Titan Return mold to go with the other two Monsterbots, but not everyone is convinced.

Emerje

When does the Mayhem usually start? Been refreshing the listings every day just to see when they go live. I've missed the last couple years and want a jump for this year...