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Rodimus Prime wrote:Thanks kev, I think even with the matrix and saw he would be only 80 grams or so. Definitely lighter than Scourge, so about $25 would have been appropriate. So basically if you bought Hot Rod at full price you paid $5 for extra bubble and cardboard. I mean, it's a nice box, but not that nice. And yes, I know I bought him of my own volition without anyone forcing me. I just didn't think it would be thus bad, even with reviews.
As for Blackarachnia, same thing. I own her as well, and it's a great figure, but if she was in spider mode with her legs folded under, she would most likely have fit into a core class bubble. Once I open both her and Rattrap, I'll test it out. Unless someone else has them handy. I wonder if Kingdom Rattrap is lighter.
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Her spider body is thicker than the core class packaging, so that won't work. She is heavier than both Rattrap and Vertabreak who are 22 and 17 grams respectively.
ZeroWolf wrote:I don't know why, but I'm amused at the point we've reached with figures here...weighing them. If you take a step back and look at it, it seems obsessive but also hilarious.
As for Hot Rods pricing, blame having to fit within a pricing structure on the retail side and the available size class slots of course. Imagine if he was an exclusive, how many people would start complaining about it? Not to mention how to handle international markets.
I don't think it is ridiculous at all. If Hasbro determines prices according to mass of material required per figure, I think we have every right to know exactly what the price per weight of such figures are. Like its been said, both Blackarachnia and Cheetor are sold at the same price as deluxes, yet we get much less actual material for the same amount of money for the spider. Unless the difference is made up in packaging? Same with Scourge and Hot Rod. I highly doubt that all of Hot Rod's accessories put together adds up to the weight difference between he and Scourge, assuming the packaging weighs the same.ZeroWolf wrote:I don't know why, but I'm amused at the point we've reached with figures here...weighing them. If you take a step back and look at it, it seems obsessive but also hilarious.
That's what Hasbro has to weigh in. Like I said before, if hot rod had actually cost the same as other deluxes in price per gram, it would have come out to $24 or $25 instead of $30. That $5 would have been worth it having him be an exclusive, even if it would have been online only due to the odd pricing, even if he still fit into a deluxe box. It would have saved us who purchased him $5 on packaging, if we still got all his accessories. That's not much for 1 person, but just think how many units get sold worldwide. That's a lot of money Hasbro takes in, and for what? Empty space inside the box along with a gram or 2 of extra plastic in the bubble. Because it sure as hell isn't going to the toy.As for Hot Rods pricing, blame having to fit within a pricing structure on the retail side and the available size class slots of course. Imagine if he was an exclusive, how many people would start complaining about it? Not to mention how to handle international markets.
ZeroWolf wrote:I don't know why, but I'm amused at the point we've reached with figures here...weighing them. If you take a step back and look at it, it seems obsessive but also hilarious.
As for Hot Rods pricing, blame having to fit within a pricing structure on the retail side and the available size class slots of course. Imagine if he was an exclusive, how many people would start complaining about it? Not to mention how to handle international markets.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:to me, Topspin is one of the few bots whose old toy was actually the superior toy. There was more they could have done with the new one they didn't, and it didn't come out as well
I am still glad I got this Topspin and the sculpting is top-notch, but I agree that the old deluxe is a better figure.
I think that's the only Studio Series figure (at least of the ones I have) that doesn't feel like a big upgrade from the prior figure(s).
I have most, and to me most of them are glowups from the prior releases.
From what I've heard, people consider SS Sentinel a downgrade, but they are referring to the leader figure, which I never got and isn't really in scale with the rest of the line.
Maybe SS Crankcase to the DotM one, but I never got the OG so I am not sure. SS Barricade is also one of my weaker ones, but I don't have the DotM deluxe to compare.
Outside of that, I'm not sure what else to debate. Maybe Long Haul, but this one had to combine so some stuff that could have been done better wasn't, and I don't have the OG toy, so I can't say for sure
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Let's settle the debate on whether Jazz is lighter than the rest right here, and possibly start or further along some other weight debates.
Here are the weights of all the SS86 and Kingdom wave 1 figures I have. All weights in grams. All figures were weighed with their weapons (but Hot Rod without the matrix or saw).
SS86 Jazz - 72
SS86 Kup - 69
SS86 Blurr - 76
SS86 Hot Rod - 79 (definitely not worth $30)
SS86 Scourge - 139
Kingdom Warpath - 74
Kingdom Cheetor - 60
Kingdom Paleotrex - 53
Kingdom Black Arachnia - 37 (yes you read that correctly)
Kingdom Optimus Primal - 131
Kingdom Cyclonus - 149
Kingdom Megatron - 333
bacem wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I don't know why, but I'm amused at the point we've reached with figures here...weighing them. If you take a step back and look at it, it seems obsessive but also hilarious.
As for Hot Rods pricing, blame having to fit within a pricing structure on the retail side and the available size class slots of course. Imagine if he was an exclusive, how many people would start complaining about it? Not to mention how to handle international markets.
Agreed with this. I am glad that hot rod is a retail release. Coming from someone who lives in south east asia here, retail release and selects are the only hope i have to be able to aquire figures with decent price. All the walmart, target, and walgreen exclusives, they have very minimal chance to be found here, and my only choice is i do want them is paying an MP price for what is pretty much deluxe figure, not a route i am fond of, hence i end up giving up on ER seekers, as well as prowl, ironhide, ratchet, and lifeline.
william-james88 wrote:I thought hot rod cost more due to parts count and complexity, not weight or accessories (they just make an easy visual excuse for an increase in price)
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Doesn't the MP do the arm rotation too?
Then what was everyone talking about when the MP came out?D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Doesn't the MP do the arm rotation too?
Negative
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Cheetimus is a professional customizer.TF-fan kev777 wrote:Anyone else concerned about that persons' collection? I see the top 2 bins with guns and parts, can't tell what is in the next bin, but the thermometers in the bottom bin have me intrigued/concerned.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Then what was everyone talking about when the MP came out?D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Doesn't the MP do the arm rotation too?
Negative
*checks*
Ah, it's the Lookout Mountain transformation that the MP imitates frame-by-frame.
Sabrblade wrote:Then what was everyone talking about when the MP came out?D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Doesn't the MP do the arm rotation too?
Negative
*checks*
Ah, it's the Lookout Mountain transformation that the MP imitates frame-by-frame.
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