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News Credits: 7 · by **Noideaforaname** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:38 am

Oh boy. A high-end sports car in the live-action movies, how novel.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:40 am

Is it just me or does this give off a RiD Sideswipe vibe

by **Microraptor** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:19 pm

Why does every red car have to be Dino?

News Credits: 23 · by **Madeus Prime** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:43 pm

Wonderful, another stereotype character is coming back.

by **Microraptor** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:19 pm

Madeus Prime wrote:Wonderful, another stereotype character is coming back.

I wouldn't call him a stereotype. He had a (legit) Italian accent and that was it.

by **MGrotusque** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:30 pm

Speaking of stereotypes, I wonder why Cybertronians even have Earth based accents. I don't really get how that gets factored into the development of a character. Why aren't there transformers with Swahili accents or Russian accents.

by **Microraptor** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:38 pm

MGrotusque wrote:Speaking of stereotypes, I wonder why Cybertronians even have Earth based accents. I don't really get how that gets factored into the development of a character. Why aren't there transformers with Swahili accents or Russian accents.

Convention. An accent can help you get a specific mental image of a character, and it makes them more identifiable then they would be if everyone just had a northeastern american one or something. In-universe, I assume it matters where they land and what their first data scans would be like. If some random autobot lands in Germany and the first broadcast it picks up is a german-language sitcom, they're going to pick up that accent.

News Credits: 23 · by **Madeus Prime** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:40 pm

MGrotusque wrote:Speaking of stereotypes, I wonder why Cybertronians even have Earth based accents. I don't really get how that gets factored into the development of a character. Why aren't there transformers with Swahili accents or Russian accents.

Unless it does something really cool for a character, I've always felt accents are overused in Transformers as a whole. For example, Cybertron with it's Texan Skywarp, Australian Jetfire felt unnecessary, but the New York accents of Ransack and Crumplezone were golden (in my opinion).

Now for the movies, I'd be okay if they used accents liberally, but not to the point of giving characters such strong accents that they feel like stereotypes, regardless of the stereotype laden writing (looking at you Skids and Mudflap). For example, Ken Wantanabe may naturally have a strong Japanese accent, but I've seen films where he's had a softer accent. Why this couldn't be applied to Drift? We'll never know.

News Credits: 90 · by **Tyrannacon** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:31 pm

Saw this on social media, but someone suggested the car could be "Stinger" brought back from the fourth film (even though they got scrapped). But eh. I guess we won't know until the movie comes out or more information is released.

Like Ultimate Weapon1 on Facebook · by **Ultimate Weapon1** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:34 pm

Cool! Hopefully he gets a good toy to represent him this time, oh and it comes to America. ;)^

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:06 pm

Madeus Prime wrote:Wonderful, another stereotype character is coming back.

In some other part of the world your probably considered a stereotype.

And even if he was you do know just because someone is a stereotype doesn't mean it's a bad thing right?

Look at the G1 cartoon for example it has a lot of similar characters there.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:08 pm

MGrotusque wrote:Speaking of stereotypes, I wonder why Cybertronians even have Earth based accents. I don't really get how that gets factored into the development of a character. Why aren't there transformers with Swahili accents or Russian accents.

It was explained in the very first movie that they picked up the Earth languages through the Internet so their accents would have been derived from whatever it was they gravitated towards on the web.

Emerje

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:18 pm

Madeus Prime wrote:Unless it does something really cool for a character, I've always felt accents are overused in Transformers as a whole. For example, Cybertron with it's Texan Skywarp, Australian Jetfire felt unnecessary, but the New York accents of Ransack and Crumplezone were golden (in my opinion).

Skywarp was in Cybertron?

Guess I never saw him with Thundercracker on the screen all the time.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:43 pm

Since DOTM went out of its way to make Dino be an Italian car model with an Italian name and an Italian voice actor, I really don't think they'd break that setup with the character. So with this not being an Italian car model, and with Francesco Quinn having passed away, I really don't think this is Dino.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:18 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Since DOTM went out of its way to make Dino be an Italian car model with an Italian name and an Italian voice actor, I really don't think they'd break that setup with the character. So with this not being an Italian car model, and with Francesco Quinn having passed away, I really don't think this is Dino.

If they were to bring him back they probably don't want to deal with Ferrari's ridiculous contract again.

They would also probably change his name from Dino to Mirage.

Plus Sideswipe had his voice actor changed in between rotf and dotm.

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:53 pm

I'm thinking this is either; Stinger brought back to life by Megatron or something, or Hot Rod is going to get a more conventional color scheme in the film the way Bumblebee did in the last one.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:56 pm

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I'm thinking this is either; Stinger brought back to life by Megatron or something, or Hot Rod is going to get a more conventional color scheme in the film the way Bumblebee did in the last one.

Red car is not hot rod he has been seen separately from this guy.

Also according to people who have been on set Cogman is being referred to as an Autobot.

News Credits: 23 · by **Madeus Prime** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:05 am

Deadput wrote:In some other part of the world your probably considered a stereotype.
And even if he was you do know just because someone is a stereotype doesn't mean it's a bad thing right?
Look at the G1 cartoon for example it has a lot of similar characters there.

That's fair. But please, do not presume me to be a stereotype when you don't personally know me.

I'm just saying that it's extremely "normal" for modern films to just default to having characters of a certain nationality always operate like the stereotypes that are given in most forms of entertainment. I am just sick of it, regardless of it being associated with Transformers in the current discussion.

And yeah, G1 had stereotypes, and looking back, they were pretty bad. But that was another era culturally, and I feel that we should've matured in terms of foreign representation in films and TV. Of course, these films are proof we have only matured in terms of visual quality and nothing else. :HEADHURTS:

Deadput wrote:Skywarp was in Cybertron? Guess I never saw him with Thundercracker on the screen all the time.

Pardon my error, I was getting ready for a good friend's wedding. I was in a rush. |:|

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:18 am

Noideaforaname wrote:Oh boy. A high-end sports car in the live-action movies, how novel.

I need to report it all nonetheless. Feel for me.

by **Nerdimus Maximus** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:56 am

Not sure if this is already known or not.
The word is that Sir Anthony Hopkins
is providing the voice of UNICRON.
>>I hope this is true<<
:-$

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:14 am

Nerdimus Maximus wrote:Not sure if this is already known or not.
The word is that Sir Anthony Hopkins
is providing the voice of UNICRON.
>>I hope this is true<<

Unicron's been rumored for every movie since ROTF. And frankly, I hope he doesn't show up in any of these movies with the way they've been so far. The movies need to improve a drastic amount before they'd be ready to do justice for someone like Unicron.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:40 pm

I still think Unicron makes more sense as the main villain in a Hasbro crossover movie. Nothing brings people together across time and space like a world eater.

Emerje

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:53 pm

Madeus Prime wrote:That's fair. But please, do not presume me to be a stereotype when you don't personally know me.

Not saying you are one but I'm saying you might be considered one somewhere else in the world.

Bad wording choices on my part sorry.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:55 pm

Emerje wrote:I still think Unicron makes more sense as the main villain in a Hasbro crossover movie. Nothing brings people together across time and space like a world eater.

Emerje

Unicron really should be the final threat for once like he is supposed to be I mean how do you raise the stakes up even more after him?

Only thing I can think of is maybe the Elder Gods from the comics but I don't think there is anything else.

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:26 pm

Nerdimus Maximus wrote:Not sure if this is already known or not.
The word is that Sir Anthony Hopkins
is providing the voice of UNICRON.
>>I hope this is true<<

from liver eater to world eater