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by **brokenchopstick** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:59 am

Mindmaster wrote:Put your First Order Stormtrooper helmet on, get your riot control baton out, and call me a "TRAITOR!", but I nicked this off of TFW2005: what was shown at (the much heavily secure than last year) Nuremburg Toy Fair! This part is Titans Return related, I posted what was revealed for the Platinum Edition line here. Besides that, nothing new appeared, and (frighteningly) no Computron nor Liokaiser was shown off. Anyway...

Titans Return:

• Titan class Fortress Maximus – said to be very massive and very G1-accurate
• Most of the already-known TR toys in package, including the Deluxes
• Leader class Powermaster Optimus Prime – said to look very nice in person
• Titan Masters Apeface – new reveal
• Legends class Wheelie – new reveal, is said to be very G1-ish with a windshield that opens to have a seat for Titan Masters
• Leader class Blaster
• Leader class Soundwave

Note that Apeface is labeled as a "Titan Master"... looks like he's getting the Nightbeat/Squeezeplay treatment and is just getting a head and a vehicle for right now (though rumors are abound that later in the line that characters like this will receive the real deal treatment, and that these are alternate heads to use).

But will Apeface have both robot and an... Ape face? Because if not, that's a dealbreaker!

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:19 am

Dealbreaker.....hmmm :-?

now that's a cool name for a Decepticon

News Credits: 4525 · by **william-james88** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:08 am

Matrix Holder on TFW forums says he has some insider knowledge about titans return and what was seen at nuremberg. The one I am scared of (and hope is a rumour is the following:

Originally Posted by Matrix_holder
Deluxe chromedome for Titan returns is coming and is actually a heavy retool of the dead end mold, the combiner port torso has been replaced with a headmaster torso and he has been given feet as well.

Chromedome is a very heavy retooled dead end mold so I would say titan returns deluxes are the same size for the most part.

Now if this is true, that would mean this damn dead end mold would still be used for Titans Returns :BANG_HEAD:

But its just a rumour so we will see.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:49 am

william-james88 wrote:Matrix Holder on TFW forums says he has some insider knowledge about titans return and what was seen at nuremberg. The one I am scared of (and hope is a rumour) is the following:

Matrix_Holder wrote:Deluxe chromedome for Titans Return is coming and is actually a heavy retool of the dead end mold, the combiner port torso has been replaced with a headmaster torso and he has been given feet as well.

Chromedome is a very heavy retooled dead end mold so I would say Titans Return deluxes are the same size for the most part.

Now if this is true, that would mean this damn dead end mold would still be used for Titans Return

But its just a rumour so we will see.

I don't know about you, but the Dead End/Streetwise mold is actually one of my favorites, along with Rook/Swindle and Skydive/Air Raid.

Anyway, the same guy also said that Apeface and all the other Titan Masters will get full bodies at some point.

News Credits: 4525 · by **william-james88** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:52 am

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Anyway, the same guy also said that Apeface and all the other Titan Masters will get full bodies at some point.

I am not a fan of the mold. Its not bad but I have seen it enough an I feel its time we move on. And yeah, thats the same guy. Dont know how much water that holds.

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:06 pm

william-james88 wrote:Matrix Holder on TFW forums says he has some insider knowledge about titans return and what was seen at nuremberg. The one I am scared of (and hope is a rumour is the following:

Originally Posted by Matrix_holder
Deluxe chromedome for Titan returns is coming and is actually a heavy retool of the dead end mold, the combiner port torso has been replaced with a headmaster torso and he has been given feet as well.

Chromedome is a very heavy retooled dead end mold so I would say titan returns deluxes are the same size for the most part.

Now if this is true, that would mean this damn dead end mold would still be used for Titans Returns

But its just a rumour so we will see.

Well if the shoe fits, wear it. I could see that mold working out for Domey, but if this is true, I would have preferred a new mold....unless he somehow has massive shoulder wheels

by **mtma** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:23 pm

I've made a quick sketch showing how the Dead End mold could be used for Chrome, at least in vehicle mode:

Maybe he could be a full new mold but using the same basic transformation, much like DotM Roadbuster and AoE Lockdown

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:12 pm

mtma wrote:I've made a quick sketch showing how the Dead End mold could be used for Chrome, at least in vehicle mode:

Maybe he could be a full new mold but using the same basic transformation, much like DotM Roadbuster and AoE Lockdown

And the new chest could work in that it would be more hollow, allowing the Titan Master to ride in vehicle mode.

And WJ88, to give you some light at the end of a dark, Dead End-mold filled tunnel, TFW member Scaleface (the guy who posts all the Transmissions podcast stuff) said this:

Scaleface wrote:I certainly do not believe TR Chromedome being the CW Dead End mold, because I have had some insider info in the past, and this doesn't match up to what I know, and in fact contradicts it

News Credits: 4525 · by **william-james88** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:37 pm

mtma wrote:I've made a quick sketch showing how the Dead End mold could be used for Chrome, at least in vehicle mode:

Maybe he could be a full new mold but using the same basic transformation, much like DotM Roadbuster and AoE Lockdown

There is a difference there. Roadbuster and Lockdown share a similar transformation but were made independently from scratch with years in between. CHromedome could be a heavy retool, sure, and probably not share any similar parts. But it would still be purposefully based on the Dead End mold, a mold that is still being used. That is essentially the difference between a new toy and a retool. AOE Lockdown's mold is not based on roadbuster, but Chromedome would be based on Dad End's, if this is even true.

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:11 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:It's easy to forget through all the repaints that hasbro have threw at us (I like to think of this as Hasbro pretty much saying: "you want more G1 references? Well here you go!" Remember kids, always be careful what you wish for, as they may end up combining with everyone else) that there was some pretty darn good molds in the CW line.

I loved all of the designs (sans menasor's torso mode) they were fun and clever, and worked well considering they had what was ostensibly identical torso's. While I'm not sure I can call any of them individually my fave figures (maybe if my swindle had been engineered correctly ) - though I forsee hope Sky Awesome combined as my favorite figure of the year, who may be dethroned depending on how Deathsaurus turns out.

But the combined modes will hold most of the place in my heart forever, it's been a truly wonderful line

ZeroWolf wrote:I knew that Alpha Bravo was the source of all this will titans return give us anything like the cult of AB though?

I dunno, it may have to be someone new and truly deserving of such a following... like CrashBash

ALL HAIL THE NEW ALPHA-BRAVO: CRASHBASH

Praise Him, Fear Him, for He is your new Savior

oh wow i want that Trypticon! or if it's not Trypticon....then it should be painted up AS trypticon!

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:14 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:It's easy to forget through all the repaints that hasbro have threw at us (I like to think of this as Hasbro pretty much saying: "you want more G1 references? Well here you go!" Remember kids, always be careful what you wish for, as they may end up combining with everyone else) that there was some pretty darn good molds in the CW line.

I loved all of the designs (sans menasor's torso mode) they were fun and clever, and worked well considering they had what was ostensibly identical torso's. While I'm not sure I can call any of them individually my fave figures (maybe if my swindle had been engineered correctly ) - though I forsee hope Sky Awesome combined as my favorite figure of the year, who may be dethroned depending on how Deathsaurus turns out.

But the combined modes will hold most of the place in my heart forever, it's been a truly wonderful line

ZeroWolf wrote:I knew that Alpha Bravo was the source of all this will titans return give us anything like the cult of AB though?

I dunno, it may have to be someone new and truly deserving of such a following... like CrashBash

ALL HAIL THE NEW ALPHA-BRAVO: CRASHBASH

Praise Him, Fear Him, for He is your new Savior

oh wow i want that Trypticon! or if it's not Trypticon....then it should be painted up AS trypticon!

umm, it's Crashbash buddy. It's the headmaster for Squezzeplay stuffed into a jawless dinosaurs body in lieu (as of right now) of giving us an actual Squezzeplay, but it would be kinda cute as Trypticon, kinda like a Q-TF of Trypticon :lol:

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:24 pm

I'd welcome a Chromedome from Dead End... so long as he's appropriately modified enough.

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:35 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:It's easy to forget through all the repaints that hasbro have threw at us (I like to think of this as Hasbro pretty much saying: "you want more G1 references? Well here you go!" Remember kids, always be careful what you wish for, as they may end up combining with everyone else) that there was some pretty darn good molds in the CW line.

I loved all of the designs (sans menasor's torso mode) they were fun and clever, and worked well considering they had what was ostensibly identical torso's. While I'm not sure I can call any of them individually my fave figures (maybe if my swindle had been engineered correctly ) - though I forsee hope Sky Awesome combined as my favorite figure of the year, who may be dethroned depending on how Deathsaurus turns out.

But the combined modes will hold most of the place in my heart forever, it's been a truly wonderful line

ZeroWolf wrote:I knew that Alpha Bravo was the source of all this will titans return give us anything like the cult of AB though?

I dunno, it may have to be someone new and truly deserving of such a following... like CrashBash

ALL HAIL THE NEW ALPHA-BRAVO: CRASHBASH

Praise Him, Fear Him, for He is your new Savior

oh wow i want that Trypticon! or if it's not Trypticon....then it should be painted up AS trypticon!

umm, it's Crashbash buddy. It's the headmaster for Squezzeplay stuffed into a jawless dinosaurs body in lieu (as of right now) of giving us an actual Squezzeplay, but it would be kinda cute as Trypticon, kinda like a Q-TF of Trypticon

i like how these are quad changers! Head/Robot/& 2 other modes

although it makes me wonder how many modes Fort Max head will have :-?

or should that be heads :-?

seeing as it's possibly a double Headmaster(since we're told it's GI accurate)

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:52 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:
i like how these are quad changers! Head/Robot/& 2 other modes

although it makes me wonder how many modes Fort Max head will have or should that be heads seeing as it's possibly a double Headmaster(since we're told it's GI accurate)

They aren't quad-changers. The headmaster transforms from head to robot and using one of those modes can interact with the vehicle, itself which is vehicle, another vehicle and a weapon

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:59 pm

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:
i like how these are quad changers! Head/Robot/& 2 other modes

although it makes me wonder how many modes Fort Max head will have or should that be heads seeing as it's possibly a double Headmaster(since we're told it's GI accurate)

They aren't quad-changers. The headmaster transforms from head to robot and using one of those modes can interact with the vehicle, itself which is vehicle, another vehicle and a weapon

Which is awesome :DANCE:

#birdgun

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:12 pm

ah but....you still never answered as to how many modes you think that Fort Max's head will have >:oP

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:14 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:ah but....you still never answered as to how many modes you think that Fort Max's head will have

He'll go from Fort Max to Mad Max. :michaelbay:

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:15 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:ah but....you still never answered as to how many modes you think that Fort Max's head will have

It'll probably just turn into a head, bot mode, and probably a bunker - or whatever the original turned into - I'm not expecting anything over the top from this set, remember, it still has to be within the constraints of all the previous ones >:oP

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:18 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:ah but....you still never answered as to how many modes you think that Fort Max's head will have

I'm thinking triple changing big head and dual-mode little head

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:18 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:ah but....you still never answered as to how many modes you think that Fort Max's head will have

One of the Nuremberg Toy Fair rumors said that the big Fort Max head would be just head to robot with no other mode.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:22 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:ah but....you still never answered as to how many modes you think that Fort Max's head will have
One of the Nuremberg Toy Fair rumors said that the big Fort Max head would be just head to robot with no other mode.

That's fine with me. Did Cerebros even transform into anything in fiction? I know his original toy transformed into a communications facility or something, but I don't think he actually transformed into anything but Fort Max's head in fiction.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:37 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:ah but....you still never answered as to how many modes you think that Fort Max's head will have
One of the Nuremberg Toy Fair rumors said that the big Fort Max head would be just head to robot with no other mode.

That's fine with me. Did Cerebros even transform into anything in fiction? I know his original toy transformed into a communications facility or something, but I don't think he actually transformed into anything but Fort Max's head in fiction.

In "The Rebirth, Part 3", he turned into a scaled-down version of Fort Max's city mode.

In The Headmasters cartoon, Fortress never assumed any mode other than his robot and head modes.

In the Marvel Comics and related media, Cerebros barely ever appeared, only acting as a lifeless body controlled by either Galen or Spike whenever Cerebros did appear, and usually his appearances were but a brief midstep between Galen/Spike and Fort Max, only going back-and-forth between robot and head modes.

I think the only media that actually depicted the Cerebros toy's command module mode was the Car Robots/RiD 2001 cartoon, in which it was the key component of Cybertron City/RiD Fort Max's City Mode that Plasma/RiD Cerebros would combine with to briefly form Brave/the Emissary and then further combine with Brave Max/Fort Max. In Car Robots, the bonding of Plasma and Brave was given a little more significance, as the two were together known as the "Head On System" that controlled Brave Maximus. Activating the "Head On System" would power up Cybertron City and transform it into Brave Maximus. In the English dub, however, this bit of extra knowledge was glossed over, with the Emissary merely being the midstep link between RiD Cerebros and RiD Fort Max.

News Credits: 2 · by **Crosscheck** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:38 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:ah but....you still never answered as to how many modes you think that Fort Max's head will have
One of the Nuremberg Toy Fair rumors said that the big Fort Max head would be just head to robot with no other mode.

That's fine with me. Did Cerebros even transform into anything in fiction? I know his original toy transformed into a communications facility or something, but I don't think he actually transformed into anything but Fort Max's head in fiction.

Cerebos transformed into a computer station in the cartoon and one of FM's buildings. I am sure intrepid fans will come up with something. We always do.

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:26 pm

I am really hoping Hasbro does come out with their own new and updated Titan class Omega Supreme, he would go with Devastator so well. I am just wondering what modes he would have. :-?

He had so many modes in the cartoon that I doubt that they'd have the budget to do something so diverse. Actually to be honest I would be perfectly fine with him turning into a space ship and a battle station or something.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:30 pm

SillySpringer wrote:I am really hoping Hasbro does come out with their own new and updated Titan class Omega Supreme, he would go with Devastator so well. I am just wondering what modes he would have. He had so many modes in the cartoon that I doubt that they'd have the budget to do something so diverse. Actually to be honest I would be perfectly fine with him turning into a space ship and a battle station or something.

Maybe a lobster? :-s