D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Burn wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:They did not, which is true, but ever since they have. They are very similar and as a result don't need new molds. some retooling is all it takes most of the time for the 2 guys.
Music Label Soundwave
Device Label Broad Blast (Blaster)
With a few exceptions
... like the G1 Action Master Soundwave and Blaster.
Stuartmaximus wrote:i still find it stupid as to why Ravage turns into a bird!
I still find it stupid when people write stuff like this, especially when they dont seem to know what a bird looks like.
Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Your pics agree with what I said. The wings are on the bottom of those shuttles' bodies. Astrotrain's wings, however, are on the top of his shuttle's body.
Yeah, it's definitely a design compromise. Real world wings would be seated near the bottom of the shuttle fuselage, not the top. I think the way the toy is designed, however, hides the massive kibble beneath the elevated wings. If the wings were lower, they'd be obscured almost entirely by the robot armature and other kibble, making them look rather infeasible as working, aerodynamic wings. Putting all the junk on the bottom isn't a real world solution, obviously, but it helps Astrotrain at least
look the part a little more convincingly, IMO.
It's a cybertronian shuttle guys, there is no reason for it to resemble an earth vehicle more than it currently does. If anyone wants a better looking shuttle, there's the G1 version and the classics version.
Stuartmaximus wrote:& you miss the fact that Ravage is just a repainted Stripes render! & it'll no doubt be repainted again....for Steeljaw
now what was it a while back that one of the staff said on this thread
ah.....yes.....that there wouldn't hardly BE any repaints in this line.
You know what helps, quoting people. Show me the quote that says that and then we can talk like grown ups.
Stuartmaximus wrote:yes but my point being is....back in the day (the 80's) we were getting new & original figures! ok ok....with the exception of the Diaclone line....which those were ported over to....or renamed as Transformers(Optimus, Jazz ect) but a lot....& i do mean a LOT of figures going forward from then, were all original! no repaints/remolds ect, & now jump forward to today....& Hasbro is like...."oh! let's take this existing mold, repaint it, retool it & release it as Mr Flibbily Flobbily) but you get my point....there's just not as much originality anymore, which is a shame, coming from the same company that gave us all those original figures all those years ago
Well aso with the exception of the microchange line. Which means the first 2 years of Transformers are
all redecos of previous toys. Even Omega Supreme is a redeco of a pre-existing toy. So is Shockwave. The seekers are the worse. Here is the original toy:
So they took that toy and turned him into Starscream and then they redeco'd that into more seekers:
And then they made 3 new seekers that had new molds for the wings, the coneheads. So the coneheads are 3 retools or redecos of an unoriginal toy. This is less original than anything that Hasbro ever did since then. If you have any evidence that would prove that any period in Transformers history is less original than this G1 example I just presented, then please present it.
The truth is that Hasbro has ALWAYS been about releasing the most toys possible for the least amount of cost. The initial G2 line is only redecos of G1 for crying out loud, why are we still having this discussion.
PS: Now to debunk two other myths, there is no G1 toy that is completely diecast, and Takara principaly makes toys for kids and not collectors.
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