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[o.supreme]

I don't have ER Grapple, but I had the original way back when. ER transformation is almost the same. I'd say it is the very definition of "G1 with better articulation"

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Fully armed up.

Gotta say, it's fun having 6 Smashdowns now. And i definitely feel OK with only getting 1 Soundbarrier, he is pretty lackluster

[Sabrblade]

To those of you who have both ER and the original, which is better? IIRC the original toy was pretty much the same size.

Not my pics but...

[o.supreme]

Death Reviews just Reviewed ER Grapple last week as well pn YouTube with comparison to the original.

Sabre....what is that tiny Grapple? Never seen that one before.

[Sabrblade]

Sabre....what is that tiny Grapple? Never seen that one before.

Was wondering that, myself. I asked the owner and he said it's a third party item.

[JoeIsNotCool]

Is Cliffjumper worth the price? I was put off by his size but really tempted to just bite the bullet

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I'd say so, going by photos. His size is right for a Minibot, and he comes with nice accessories. Including the oversize gun he tried and failed to blow a hole in Megatron with, alerting the Decepticons to the Autobots' reawakening.

[Rodimus Prime]

Considering that Predaking is a Titan, would Sky Lynx have worked as a Titan as well? Or maybe make both components each commander class, and when they join they're near-titan sized.

[sol magnus]

Is Cliffjumper worth the price? I was put off by his size but really tempted to just bite the bullet

He's well worth it. I even got my seven year old one.

[o.supreme]

Considering that Predaking is a Titan, would Sky Lynx have worked as a Titan as well? Or maybe make both components each commander class, and when they join they're near-titan sized.

Making Skylynx CC has him scale well with all other generations combiners. We just need the same company that made the undersize KO of CW Devastator, to do one of PotP Predaking.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Is Cliffjumper worth the price? I was put off by his size but really tempted to just bite the bullet

He is, he is a joyous little deluxe, probably the best deluxe of the trilogy so far to me

[blackeyedprime]

Tonton review of double dealer out on youtube, I'm liking bird mode would have been nice if it was bigger in bot/vehicle mode. Sadly its not breaking the trend of leader priced voyager figures

[ZeroWolf]

Tonton review of double dealer out on youtube, I'm liking bird mode would have been nice if it was bigger in bot/vehicle mode. Sadly its not breaking the trend of leader priced voyager figures

That will be because of the mass of the rocket. You'll never get a old leader sized figure of doubler dealer for that reason. If they included his power master partners he'd be either smaller or simpler

[blackeyedprime]

Tonton review of double dealer out on youtube, I'm liking bird mode would have been nice if it was bigger in bot/vehicle mode. Sadly its not breaking the trend of leader priced voyager figures

That will be because of the mass of the rocket. You'll never get a old leader sized figure of doubler dealer for that reason. If they included his power master partners he'd be either smaller or simpler

I'm waiting for comparisons with onslaught or hot-spot, they managed quite well price wise considering the mass of the ladder :p okay maybe not for onslaught but hey, will be nice to see the military vehicles together.

[ZeroWolf]

There trick was they saved plastic in hollow spaces and with where the combiner pegs fitted in though I must now see this review for myself so thanks for bringing it to my attention!

[ZeroWolf]

Greetings Seibertronians! Thanks to the efforts of fellow Seibertron user,blackeyedprime, we've learned that YouTuber Tonton Reviews, has been at it again! This time they've got their hands on the forthcoming Leader Class Doubledealer! Check out his video review below!



While it may look like Doubledealer has been updated without his power master partners, they are being sold as part of a 4 pack via Generations Selects, along with two more of Soundwaves cassette partners.

What do you think of this review? Will you be willing to deal to get Doubledealer? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

[frogbat]

very cool figure - one of my fave as a kid... he's a bit squat in robot mode but he's still awesome - love how close the missile is to the original

[Dr. Caelus]

What is the purpose of the hinges on Optimus's calves? They very clearly look like hinges, with metal pins, but they don't do anything.

[JoeIsNotCool]

What is the purpose of the hinges on Optimus's calves? They very clearly look like hinges, with metal pins, but they don't do anything.

Because the legs are the same as those from Siege Prime (except some changes with how the wheels work), they carried over from Siege prime. They are used on Earthrise though, if you pop the flaps up all the way it secures the legs a little bit better.

[Dr. Caelus]

What is the purpose of the hinges on Optimus's calves? They very clearly look like hinges, with metal pins, but they don't do anything.

Because the legs are the same as those from Siege Prime (except some changes with how the wheels work), they carried over from Siege prime. They are used on Earthrise though, if you pop the flaps up all the way it secures the legs a little bit better.

The flaps on the knees are used in the instructions, but the hinges on the backs of the legs (the calves) seem to be totally nonfunctional artifacts, which is puzzling, as a metal pinned part would seem like an expensive inclusion...

[Sentinel_Primal]

Doubledealer looks to have some loose joints. I hope that just TonTon's figure. Other than that he looks great

[Lore Keeper]

I hope someone who gets him in hand soon can show whether the Rumble and Ratbat mold actually fits in his chest. They don't fit in Soundwave's.

[Rysquad]

Is Cliffjumper worth the price? I was put off by his size but really tempted to just bite the bullet

He's well worth it. I even got my seven year old one.

Agreed. My five year old loves his ER Cliffjumper.

[Flashwave]

What is the purpose of the hinges on Optimus's calves? They very clearly look like hinges, with metal pins, but they don't do anything.

Because the legs are the same as those from Siege Prime (except some changes with how the wheels work), they carried over from Siege prime. They are used on Earthrise though, if you pop the flaps up all the way it secures the legs a little bit better.

The flaps on the knees are used in the instructions, but the hinges on the backs of the legs (the calves) seem to be totally nonfunctional artifacts, which is puzzling, as a metal pinned part would seem like an expensive inclusion...

For some reason they recycled the blue part of the lower leg (they are flipped from Siege, left leg is right) and like LeAwesome said, bit every other part of that lower leg assembly including the louvres is all new. My only guess is that the hinge is a byproduct of making the wheel assembly fit the original front piece properly, or possibly as a way to make the assembly process smoother in the factory, but I can find no part of mine that is in anyway loose and wants to move. The only other theory is that there is some retool coming down the line that may use either the hinges, the space, or swap out parts in there, explaining why they didnt cast a solid calf piece there.

EDIT:

The hinge joint in question. There are two grey segments seen and the calf is in 2 parts, the inside which forms the fifth wheel and the back and outside that the wheels snap to

[homicide]

I hope someone who gets him in hand soon can show whether the Rumble and Ratbat mold actually fits in his chest. They don't fit in Soundwave's.

As someone who owns all the cassettes released so far, including the Generations Select set I can say with absolute certainty that all the cassettes, including Ratbat & Rumble fit in Soundwave's chest, some may be more snug than others, but they can all fit.