The Energon Pub

[SGMLordMirage]

Nothing too exciting, other than i finally found the rest of Wave 2 of the Deluxe Siege line at a local Target, on the way to work. I had snagged Chromia almost two weeks ago but since then haven’t seen anything.
Now they can just the rest at my office, lol!

SGM

[Sarahthecutevixen]

Whats the running change?

The mold seem is far more defined creating more friction to keep his head up in robot mode insteas of sinking into his chest

[william-james88]

Whats the running change?

The mold seem is far more defined creating more friction to keep his head up in robot mode insteas of sinking into his chest

it never sank, there was always friction there. you seem to have the exact same toy as the rest of us do and not a running change. The point was that it didnt lock and was just held by friction. If your actually locked, like you couldnt press it more down, then that would be a running change.

[Sarahthecutevixen]

Whats the running change?

The mold seem is far more defined creating more friction to keep his head up in robot mode insteas of sinking into his chest

it never sank, there was always friction there. you seem to have the exact same toy as the rest of us do and not a running change. The point was that it didnt lock and was just held by friction. If your actually locked, like you couldnt press it more down, then that would be a running change.

So the twitter report of a running change is full of it then,

[william-james88]

Whats the running change?

The mold seem is far more defined creating more friction to keep his head up in robot mode insteas of sinking into his chest

it never sank, there was always friction there. you seem to have the exact same toy as the rest of us do and not a running change. The point was that it didnt lock and was just held by friction. If your actually locked, like you couldnt press it more down, then that would be a running change.

So the twitter report of a running change is full of it then,

wouldnt be the first time, sadly

[Sarahthecutevixen]

Whats the running change?

The mold seem is far more defined creating more friction to keep his head up in robot mode insteas of sinking into his chest

it never sank, there was always friction there. you seem to have the exact same toy as the rest of us do and not a running change. The point was that it didnt lock and was just held by friction. If your actually locked, like you couldnt press it more down, then that would be a running change.

So the twitter report of a running change is full of it then,

wouldnt be the first time, sadly

WAIT, what do mean lock? like an loud click or it staying put unless you force it? Because mine doesnt click or make a popping sound but it is harder to move the panel out or push it down, when the panel gets to neck level,
https://i.imgur.com/ylzTkAu.mp4 it's more or less friction locked in place,

[Hellscream9999]

Whats the running change?

The mold seem is far more defined creating more friction to keep his head up in robot mode insteas of sinking into his chest

it never sank, there was always friction there. you seem to have the exact same toy as the rest of us do and not a running change. The point was that it didnt lock and was just held by friction. If your actually locked, like you couldnt press it more down, then that would be a running change.

So the twitter report of a running change is full of it then,

wouldnt be the first time, sadly

WAIT, what do mean lock? like an loud click or it staying put unless you force it? Because mine doesnt click or make a popping sound but it is harder to move the panel out or push it down, when the panel gets to neck level,
https://i.imgur.com/ylzTkAu.mp4 it's more or less friction locked in place,

Yeah, that's a lot different from my copy, and I don't remember the panel looking like that underneath

[william-james88]

Whats the running change?

The mold seem is far more defined creating more friction to keep his head up in robot mode insteas of sinking into his chest

it never sank, there was always friction there. you seem to have the exact same toy as the rest of us do and not a running change. The point was that it didnt lock and was just held by friction. If your actually locked, like you couldnt press it more down, then that would be a running change.

So the twitter report of a running change is full of it then,

wouldnt be the first time, sadly

WAIT, what do mean lock? like an loud click or it staying put unless you force it? Because mine doesnt click or make a popping sound but it is harder to move the panel out or push it down, when the panel gets to neck level,
https://i.imgur.com/ylzTkAu.mp4 it's more or less friction locked in place,

thats the same, I really mean lock. as far as I know, no one has a megatron who's head is loose enough to fall in robot mode.

[Sarahthecutevixen]

thats the same, I really mean lock. as far as I know, no one has a megatron who's head is loose enough to fall in robot mode.

I'd say ask Baltmatrix on youtube....but lets be honest he makes a mountain out of a molehill with these figures some times

[matthewrex]

Whats the running change?

The mold seem is far more defined creating more friction to keep his head up in robot mode insteas of sinking into his chest

it never sank, there was always friction there. you seem to have the exact same toy as the rest of us do and not a running change. The point was that it didnt lock and was just held by friction. If your actually locked, like you couldnt press it more down, then that would be a running change.

So the twitter report of a running change is full of it then,

wouldnt be the first time, sadly

WAIT, what do mean lock? like an loud click or it staying put unless you force it? Because mine doesnt click or make a popping sound but it is harder to move the panel out or push it down, when the panel gets to neck level,
https://i.imgur.com/ylzTkAu.mp4 it's more or less friction locked in place,

Mine is significantly more loose than this. If I pull him up by the head like you did, it immediately swings up. It takes very little pressure to push it down into his body. It won't slide down on its own, but it doesn't take much. I wish mine was that sturdy!

[william-james88]

I am sure there is a gradient, these mass produced toys cant be all perfectly the same. All I meant to say is that unless there is an actual lock I would be hard pressed to say there is a running change rather than simply some variation of friction from product to product.

[Hellscream9999]

I am sure there is a gradient, these mass produced toys cant be all perfectly the same. All I meant to say is that unless there is an actual lock I would be hard pressed to say there is a running change rather than simply some variation of friction from product to product.

I don't know why you're fighting this so hard, if the neck plate looks different, that would constitute a running change, if it doesn't then tryp is just lucky, just do some investigative journalism

[Sarahthecutevixen]

I am sure there is a gradient, these mass produced toys cant be all perfectly the same. All I meant to say is that unless there is an actual lock I would be hard pressed to say there is a running change rather than simply some variation of friction from product to product.

I don't know why you're fighting this so hard, if the neck plate looks different, that would constitute a running change, if it doesn't then tryp is just lucky, just do some investigative journalism

he might have done some journalism, for all we know

[Nathaniel Prime]

Whats the running change?

Yeah, I need to know too, this is intriguing since my figure looks the same as everyone else's. Is it the neck flap? Mine is still tight like new, so that doesn't bother me one bit.

P.S., does anyone have a problem getting the front section of Siege Megatron's tank mode into the notches up front? It's not the actual tabbing that's the issue, but it's getting that part between the tank treads. There is almost no clearance, and requires me bending the plastic a little to otherwise do so, and I'm worried that I'll break it.

Yup, another reason why I just don't like this mold

I love the mold, but that's probably the only issue I have with it. Weird thing is, this issue didn't happen for like the first 3 transformations, it just goes in perfectly without any bending of plastic, but ever since, it's been a bit of a hassle to push the piece down between the treads

[Cobotron]

Intrigued by this Megatron situation, I pulled out both of mine for inspection. Regular retail and Combat Hero.

If you look at that hinged platform the head is on in Trypmeat's photo, you can see that the back half of the side is bumped out. Probably creating the friction needed to keep that panel in place. My Reg release does not have that bump out. It's a straight shot all the way down the side. And, like many's his head is loosey a la goosey. However, Combat Hero does have the bump out on that panel, and his head stays put much better than reg release. Now it's not as tight as in that video, but much tighter than Grayatron. I can't pick him up by the head with out it moving.

What this all means, I'm not sure, but something changed mold wise between the original and it re-use. Soooooo....

[Sarahthecutevixen]

Thanks to a user on tfw2005 for posting there Megatron's panel I have a comparasion image done, it seems their's is a straight smooth panel side
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-16739473

their's on the left mine is on the right, it seems to be a smooth line unless the flash washed out any and all detailing or definition on that side

[william-james88]

Thanks to a user on tfw2005 for posting there Megatron's panel I have a comparasion image done, it seems their's is a straight smooth panel side
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-16739473

their's on the left mine is on the right, it seems to be a smooth line unless the flash washed out any and all detailing or definition on that side

Am i looking at tje right thing? Both images have an extra line going through the halfway mark. Mine does too

[Sarahthecutevixen]

Thanks to a user on tfw2005 for posting there Megatron's panel I have a comparasion image done, it seems their's is a straight smooth panel side
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-16739473

their's on the left mine is on the right, it seems to be a smooth line unless the flash washed out any and all detailing or definition on that side

Am i looking at tje right thing? Both images have an extra line going through the halfway mark. Mine does too

Line yes, the thickness is what is important here thats a chunk of plastic from a transformer box, the risge is the same thickness as one from a cardback figure
and same thickness as a GoKenzan Card if that helps more

[Emerje]

Yes, when I compare my first run Siege Megatron to my Selects G2 Megatron the ridge is noticeably thicker on the G2 version and there's more friction. I can easily see it turn up on standard Siege Megs since the mold would have been modified and is still in use.

Emerje

[Sarahthecutevixen]

Yes, when I compare my first run Siege Megatron to my Selects G2 Megatron the ridge is noticeably thicker on the G2 version and there's more friction. I can easily see it turn up on standard Siege Megs since the mold would have been modified and is still in use.

Emerje

Mine's from January before the Selects megatron was released or announced at all, so more could be in the wild , A running change for Megatron is possible, unlike starscream, where we had no reports after that one dude

[william-james88]

Yes, when I compare my first run Siege Megatron to my Selects G2 Megatron the ridge is noticeably thicker on the G2 version and there's more friction. I can easily see it turn up on standard Siege Megs since the mold would have been modified and is still in use.

Emerje

Mine's from January before the Selects megatron was released or announced at all, so more could be in the wild , A running change for Megatron is possible, unlike starscream, where we had no reports after that one dude

Mine is from January as well. I got mine in Canada when they were first found in stores.

[william-james88]

Line yes, the thickness is what is important here

I see it now, thanks. That is indeed different.

Also...

[Sarahthecutevixen]

Line yes, the thickness is what is important here

I see it now, thanks. That is indeed different.

Also...

I wonder why mine is different than yours, hmm such a mystery, I mean I thought for 3 months+ it was a simple case of extra mold flash, but no, it's remolded that way,
also glad you caught it,

[Cyberpath]

Though it's old news for everyone else here, some thoughts on the new SIEGE Optimus Prime -- big surprise, I really like it! He succeeds in evoking the image of the classic Optimus, and is easily the best CHUG Prime, there isn't even a competition.

Looks like some aspects of him were inspired by MP-10, and maybe a little bit by MP-44 with how the truck's grill and other stuff fold over from the front to his back.

And speaking of his back, I'm not loving the giant board they stuck on it. I wish they had worked out a tidier way to do it. It appears they sculpted his classic back shape underneath it.

I would have liked a more on-model truck-mode, I know they were going for "Cybertronian" but it looks more like his classic truck with a bunch of stuff tacked on it. Maybe the back would have been more compact otherwise.


Also wish they had painted his crutch blue so I wouldn't have to do it myself. And maybe included a hint of tankers in robot-mode. But overall this is pretty much what I wanted for my CHUG collection, for the Rebirth cast. Shame it wasn't created years ago!

I like the upgraded articulation and robot-scale that HasTak has established with this line. (Heads back movement is a little limited for everyone though. And I would have liked for Prime to bend his knees forward a little.)

I feel that SIEGE is more true to the characters, unlike say Titans Return that made everyone Headmasters including Perceptor and the Targetmasters.

Still not a big fun of the war paint. But maybe it's a little less harsh in-hand. And one advantage is that future paint wear will blend right in with the fake wear, I guess.

Weird thing, his flight stand port is too small! It doesn't work.

[Flashwave]

Yes, when I compare my first run Siege Megatron to my Selects G2 Megatron the ridge is noticeably thicker on the G2 version and there's more friction. I can easily see it turn up on standard Siege Megs since the mold would have been modified and is still in use.

Emerje

Mine's from January before the Selects megatron was released or announced at all, so more could be in the wild , A running change for Megatron is possible, unlike starscream, where we had no reports after that one dude

Mine is from January as well. I got mine in Canada when they were first found in stores.

So I guess the $64 question is, is this an intential change, or a deviation between two casting moulds? I wonder how many Hasbro has in play for a figure, if they are stamping an entire run out of one or if they have 2 (or possibly multiple in one) seperate cut to speed production? Moulds are expenvie, but I could maybe see production being high enough to justify having them.