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[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

-Fracas being relegated to boxset duty must such for diehard G1 fans with Scourges to arm, but also his colors look inverted from what they should be, so what happened?

I would guess that perhaps they wanted to preserve his having a gray barrel and arms, and with mold layout being what it is...
But that choice does contribute to him basically looking more like a Premium Edition Firedrive than a Fracas. In fact, I'm thinking that Hasbro should slap revision stickers over the boxes to rename him that.

Given the colors issue you'd probably be better off just buying and customizing an extra Firedrive.

[RiddlerJ]

Is Redwing going to come with any Battle Masters? I already have way too many Skywarps, one reason why I've avoided this mold so far.

[william-james88]

Is Redwing going to come with any Battle Masters? I already have way too many Skywarps, one reason why I've avoided this mold so far.

He does not come with any

[Beachjezus]

Has there been any word on the price of this?

I gotta admit - I’m kinda annoyed I’m forced to buy the extra stuff just to get Skywarp.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Has there been any word on the price of this?

I gotta admit - I’m kinda annoyed I’m forced to buy the extra stuff just to get Skywarp.

roughly $60 for the Skywarp set.
roughly $45 for the Alphastrike guys
most likely $30 for Redwing

[Cobotron]

Does Skywarp come with that coolass flight stand in the photos?!

Or: Does anyone know where that coolass flight stand came from? It looks official.

Oh yeah. And, WOOHOO SKYWARP! My favorite!

[o.supreme]

Has there been any word on the price of this?

I gotta admit - I’m kinda annoyed I’m forced to buy the extra stuff just to get Skywarp.

roughly $60 for the Skywarp set.
roughly $45 for the Alphastrike guys
most likely $30 for Redwing

It is odd that the 2 opposing sets are being released through two different methods, unless I missed something, isn't it presumed that Skywarp is being released through Amazon as opposed to Selects? If so it should be around $45 US upon release.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Has there been any word on the price of this?

I gotta admit - I’m kinda annoyed I’m forced to buy the extra stuff just to get Skywarp.

roughly $60 for the Skywarp set.
roughly $45 for the Alphastrike guys
most likely $30 for Redwing

Oh gosh, my bad. Skywarp set is rumored for $50, not $60. Somehow mixed up the numbers in my head

[Beachjezus]

Has there been any word on the price of this?

I gotta admit - I’m kinda annoyed I’m forced to buy the extra stuff just to get Skywarp.

roughly $60 for the Skywarp set.
roughly $45 for the Alphastrike guys
most likely $30 for Redwing

Thanks

Just as I feared. I’ve gotta spend $60 for skywarp and a bunch of stuff I could care less about.

Well played Hasbro well played

[o.supreme]

Yeah, I get that. Honestly, just looking at them, I cannot tell the humanoid Battlemasters apart, anything to make them more unique would be welcome.

You can't tell the difference between a black body with off-white limbs, a gray body with blue limbs, and a blue body with gray limbs? Man, I would hate to be around you when you're driving

I know you are joking, but seriously...We had two seasons, and a movie to get to know Rumble & Frenzy. The Targetmasters were all jammed into 2 episodes in "Rebirth", and only some of them appeared in a few episodes of Headmasters.

Just taking these off my sons shelf, you tell me why 32 years later I should care about the difference between these, and who they are. (My son likes them, I'm not saying they are bad toys, just that I don't make it a point to memorize their names because I have no connection to them)

[Nathaniel Prime]

Which stand is being used here? I don't recognize that at all. I noticed it has the Transformers name on it, so it could help.

Beautiful figure BTW, and I hope people can get it better than this whole Greenlight fiasco.

[Randomhero]

Just found springer. So...Wheeljack is on the side of the box in the background art...that’s a thing

[Nathaniel Prime]

Just found springer. So...Wheeljack is on the side of the box in the background art...that’s a thing

You didn't catch that? It was from the beginning.

Though, to be fair, I just discovered Sunstreaker on that art as well.

[RodimusConvoy13]

Which stand is being used here? I don't recognize that at all. I noticed it has the Transformers name on it, so it could help.

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Beautiful figure BTW, and I hope people can get it better than this whole Greenlight fiasco.

Just go create a new gmail account, create an amazon account for it and use the free trial of Prime. That should work, right?

[Randomhero]

Just found springer. So...Wheeljack is on the side of the box in the background art...that’s a thing

You didn't catch that? It was from the beginning.

Though, to be fair, I just discovered Sunstreaker on that art as well.

No I never look at the art until I get a figure. I like springers art. It’s very Geoff Senior

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Yeah, I get that. Honestly, just looking at them, I cannot tell the humanoid Battlemasters apart, anything to make them more unique would be welcome.

You can't tell the difference between a black body with off-white limbs, a gray body with blue limbs, and a blue body with gray limbs? Man, I would hate to be around you when you're driving

I know you are joking, but seriously...We had two seasons, and a movie to get to know Rumble & Frenzy. The Targetmasters were all jammed into 2 episodes in "Rebirth", and only some of them appeared in a few episodes of Headmasters.

Well, The TrainwreckThe Rebirth is worthless anyway when it comes to the Targetmasters. Blowpipe is Caliburst, Caliburst is a miscolored Blowpipe, Aimless' blue is overly dark and he has Blowpipe's shoulders, Nightstick is Fracas' body in Nightstick's colors and vice versa, and Blurr was drawn holding his regular gun when he was supposed to be holding Haywire's gun mode.

[william-james88]

Has there been any word on the price of this?

I gotta admit - I’m kinda annoyed I’m forced to buy the extra stuff just to get Skywarp.

roughly $60 for the Skywarp set.
roughly $45 for the Alphastrike guys
most likely $30 for Redwing

It is odd that the 2 opposing sets are being released through two different methods, unless I missed something, isn't it presumed that Skywarp is being released through Amazon as opposed to Selects? If so it should be around $45 US upon release.

I dont know what you mean, both sets are part of the siege line, sold exclusively on amazon.

[Skritz]

Yeah, I get that. Honestly, just looking at them, I cannot tell the humanoid Battlemasters apart, anything to make them more unique would be welcome.

You can't tell the difference between a black body with off-white limbs, a gray body with blue limbs, and a blue body with gray limbs? Man, I would hate to be around you when you're driving

I know you are joking, but seriously...We had two seasons, and a movie to get to know Rumble & Frenzy. The Targetmasters were all jammed into 2 episodes in "Rebirth", and only some of them appeared in a few episodes of Headmasters.

Well, The TrainwreckThe Rebirth is worthless anyway when it comes to the Targetmasters. Blowpipe is Caliburst, Caliburst is a miscolored Blowpipe, Aimless' blue is overly dark and he has Blowpipe's shoulders, Nightstick is Fracas' body in Nightstick's colors and vice versa, and Blurr was drawn holding his regular gun when he was supposed to be holding Haywire's gun mode.

The Rebirth is just an utter trainwreck in every aspect. This is what happen when you take a low budget show on its last leg and decide to saw that leg off and tell it to flop to the finish line. Its a terrible ending to G1 not because of its ideas but purely on its utterly rush and lopsided execution.

[Stargrave]

And yet at the time it had its own magic. It was the only animated rendition of the Masters we had in the US at the time. Despite its flaws my kid imagination was still captivated by it. Funny enough more than anything the Nebulans looking so goofy was what bugged me most as a kid

[Skritz]

And yet at the time it had its own magic. It was the only animated rendition of the Masters we had in the US at the time. Despite its flaws my kid imagination was still captivated by it. Funny enough more than anything the Nebulans looking so goofy was what bugged me most as a kid

Like I said, it was filled with interesting new concept (or rather, toy gimmicks but same thing in Transformers-land!) which were previously unseen, as the G1 toon mainly only had combiners and triple-changers as gimmick characters. The -masters were a different kind of combination completely different from the five/six-bot gestalts and what they combined with was organic/a cyborg. It was a merging of the mechanical and technological which Transformers just hadn't really done at that point beyond maybe Autobot X or the 'Only Human' episodes.

The Rebirth may not seem like much but we could argue this era of G1 set in motion all the elements which would lead to weirder concepts like Pretenders, Godmasters, Beast Wars and Beast Machine!

[Stargrave]

I mean for me I lost it just to see the Punch/Counterpunch scene and Flywheels in the credits. We were playing with dynamic bricks while listening to terrestrial radio on our walkmans it didn’t take much

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Everyone is asking about the stand used, and nobody answers? Gonna fix that:

Official Hasbro Figure Stands!

Sadly, we don't have Amazon Prime so I can't order Greenlight... yet.

[Skritz]

I mean for me I lost it just to see the Punch/Counterpunch scene and Flywheels in the credits. We were playing with dynamic bricks while listening to terrestrial radio on our walkmans it didn’t take much

True and this was hardly different for me during the Beast Era but I imagine kids nowadays just don't see much appeal in inanimate plastic lumps compared to videogames. Don't get me wrong I like both I suspect kids now will never know the fun of going 'Pew pew pew' and popping off balljoints off Waspinator or using cardboard and a G2 Laser Rod Optimus KO (I got from a drunkard uncle and was super happy anyway because having 'an Optimus Prime' during BW was like, magic, man) to re-enact The Agenda Part 3/Optimal Situation.

Y-yeah that...was something I did a lot.

[notsoalex]

Has there been any word on the price of this?

I gotta admit - I’m kinda annoyed I’m forced to buy the extra stuff just to get Skywarp.

roughly $60 for the Skywarp set.
roughly $45 for the Alphastrike guys
most likely $30 for Redwing

Thanks

Just as I feared. I’ve gotta spend $60 for skywarp and a bunch of stuff I could care less about.

Well played Hasbro well played

Aren't both multipacks Leader Class priced? So, 50 USD?

[Cobotron]

Everyone is asking about the stand used, and nobody answers? Gonna fix that:

Official Hasbro Figure Stands!

Thanks JelZ! But, bummer. A thing of the past.

This is a thing Pulse should think about. If they are geared to serve collectors, stands would be an easy sell.
That and accessory / weapons booster packs.