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Postby Jeep? » Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:22 pm

Burn wrote:Seeing as it's pretty much been lost on page 2 ...

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Not a repair tank.
Considering it's based on a character that's primarily a thug and then an engineer and only a medic when no one else is around I don't see why he can't just be a good old fashioned tank.
Unless of course the creator of the character and the kitbash the alt mode was created from doesn't have a say in things these days. ;;)


I also fail to see why it's in a different class to Tankor, since it's made from a Tankor figure.
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Postby Burn » Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:49 pm

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And a major improvement over Tankor. :P
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Electric Guitars?

Postby Iatech Chronotron » Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:59 pm

I could be way late with this, but is there any chances of there being an Electric Guitar? Say a Les Paul or Stratocaster? I think that would be just as dangerous as a turntable in a fight...
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Postby Jeep? » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:04 pm

If Jimi Hendrix set it on fire, it'd probably be more dangerous than half the maximal list.
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Postby Iatech Chronotron » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:14 pm

Jesus Prime wrote:If Jimi Hendrix set it on fire, it'd probably be more dangerous than half the maximal list.


Agreed.

It would be awesome to see: "(Insert name) transforms into burning guitar and attacks (blank)."

or "...transforms into a guitar and posseses (blank) with face melting solo..."

ok, i'm gonna stop now. :P
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Postby Dr. Caelus » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:31 pm

Jesus Prime wrote:If Jimi Hendrix set it on fire, it'd probably be more dangerous than half the maximal list.


Yeah, I thought maybe it was just me and my bias against Pokemon and Preskool alts... but it seems like the Maximals are getting a little loaded down with cute-and-cuddly. Not that big an issue since, even without those, we'll still have more viable alts that we've ever had before.

It would be nice if we could track the usage of various alts and then replace them further down the line if almost no-one is using them. Only way to do that is to have someone track each alt by hand by checking the High Scores table every two weeks the night before the rotation. And there's a lot more alts to track now.

Too bad that in the "alt-database" or whatever under the Help Section it couldn't read: "This Alternate Mode currently in use by X characters." Don't know what sort of endeavor that would be to program though.
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Postby Jeep? » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:39 pm

Nothing wrong with some of the pokemon alts, if they'd be classed in a way that did them justice.
And I'd say that shouldn't be too hard to do, if the game can keep track of how many characters are at what levels and what xp ranges (high scores summary page), it shouldn't take too much more to add that in too.
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Postby Burn » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:55 pm

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Caelus wrote:Too bad that in the "alt-database" or whatever under the Help Section it couldn't read: "This Alternate Mode currently in use by X characters." Don't know what sort of endeavor that would be to program though.


Go into one of your bots bios, look in the rankings window, click on any of the alts there then change the alt id to that of alt you want which you would have previously obtained from the alt database.

Few extra steps but it's already possible to do.
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Postby Mkall » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:29 pm

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Bun-Bun wrote:Question: Why is the nautilus alt mode listed as a 'strong land animal' ? (predacons)

Hmmm... you're right. I'll move it. How does Tough Sea Creature sound?

Caelus wrote:Edit: The lack of Movie-Alts in the list surprises me. :???: (Aside from Ratchet and Longarm anyway.) I figured Blackout and Barricade would be shoo-ins.

There's a few in there, Prime, the prime/nerf blaster, Megatron, Barricade, Frenzy. I have the rest ready to come in, but I needed to fill out some of the classes first before adding some that were more canon. I'm guessing that since there's no objection I can go ahead and figure out which other alts can be added?

Flip Side wrote:-Umbreon isn't fast by anyone's books (Maximal Fast Land Animal. But that's just the inner pokemaniac being real nitpicky).

Yeah, I guess he's more mischevious isn't he?

Flip Side wrote:BTW, how do people make these alts?

10 mins after this post is made, check your PM box

crazyfists wrote:now that i saw them, i cant unsee them, but i didnt see a toaster.

Come back in a few days ;)

DtreetViper2 wrote:what no other Star Trek Ships? :-x

As I said earlier, thee wasn't a lot of room after I had filled out the classes. Since there doesn't seem to be any objection to me adding another bunch, there may be a few more.

Carnosaur wrote:i would like to see the v2 alt list pleas and thx dont know about anyone else :)

Check the 1st and 2nd post :P

davidasnoddy wrote:Nice to see a couple of the older tank modes re-appearing for the Decepticons, as well.

If it was in the database and not reserved by OS for future use and not crummy looking, I added it. No use for alts to be sitting unused.

Besides, Tammuz would have my head if that white tank didn't return :P

Chaoslock wrote:1. Why are the Decepticons have the Last Autobot alt. mode?

I needed something else to be a shuttle

Chaoslock wrote:3. Why are the Seacons separated between the Decepticons and the Maximals?

At the initial sorting phase, the Maximals were in desperate need of sea creatures, well so are the Autobots but I hope to fix that, so I put some there.

Chaoslock wrote:4. The decepticons have a targetmaster named Quake. But there is no tank alt for the Decepticons, instead we have this: Image[/b]

Ah, I had forgot to mention that over time I'll be moving a few alts from other classes into the headmaster/target master classes just to fill them out a little

Airhawk wrote:Also noticed that you listed Image Twice, once in the Preds monstrous land animals catergory and again in the Preds headmasters.

I'll have to fix that...fixed

Dynamax wrote:My only other suggestion is...DELETE THE WINNEBAGO!!! You know which one. *glares at Tammuz*:P

It's not a Winnebago, it'll be an armoured troop carrier :P

Iatech Chronotron wrote:I could be way late with this, but is there any chances of there being an Electric Guitar? Say a Les Paul or Stratocaster? I think that would be just as dangerous as a turntable in a fight...

I do believe that Animated Soundwave will be transforming into a guitar...

Caelus wrote:Yeah, I thought maybe it was just me and my bias against Pokemon and Preskool alts... but it seems like the Maximals are getting a little loaded down with cute-and-cuddly. Not that big an issue since, even without those, we'll still have more viable alts that we've ever had before.

Yeah, kinda hard to avoid since the maximals had a much higher body-hair count than the predacons :P

Burn wrote:You know, i'm sure i've said it before, but i'm fairly certain that CATalyst isn't a medic. ;;)

You're right. The cons need another targetmaster vehicle :P

Keep the feedback coming guys, it's helping out alot. :grin:
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Postby Liege Evilmus » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:36 pm

I dig the fact that I can make out what each of these are :D

But 2 questions, aren't pretty much all TFs walker vehichiles?

And how'd the Romulin's sneek into this, and do you think the Star Wars guys will be mad about that?
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Postby Carnosaur » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:37 pm

pred need more dragon's :) :P
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Postby Dr. Caelus » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:01 am

Mkall wrote:
Chaoslock wrote:1. Why are the Decepticons have the Last Autobot alt. mode?

I needed something else to be a shuttle


How about one of the three tri-winged Imperial shuttles from Star Wars, or the Shuttlecraft from Star Trek or Puddlejumper from Atlantis? Or a generic Micromachine?
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Postby Knight Hawk » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:38 am

Mkall wrote:
Flip Side wrote:BTW, how do people make these alts?

10 mins after this post is made, check your PM box


I too would like this information :)


Also Is there the possibility of a better aerial rescue vehichle helicopter? The Chinook Alt mode is ok Image
but when I think of a rescue helicopter I think of something like a coast guard rescue helicopter or a hospital life-flight helicopter, etc..... The Chinook, to me, is too slow and bulky to be considered a "air rescue vehicle"
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Postby Tammuz » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:50 am

Who says's i aint gonna get your head anyway! :P
see being a grumpy bastard does work!

though i now feel the need to rename the armoured Troop carrier class as the winnebago class.

oh and where are the cons headmster jets?!

Oh and can we really exchange one of our genosaurer alts for the beserk fuhrer, or at least share it

and i want my pills dammit!
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Postby Necessary Evil » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:40 am

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Woah... Did I see G1 Predacon alt modes?

That is fantastic! Razorclaw and Divebomb! It doesn't get any better!
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Postby davidasnoddy » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:45 am

Is there a list of all the tactics for V2 somewhere?

I could go through the alt list one-by-one, and will if it avoids you having to, but I'd quite like a comprehensive list of them and if you have one kicking around, it would save me some time.

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Postby steve2275 » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:55 am

Motto: "it may not get better
but it wont get any worse"
Strength: Increase damage.

Intelligence: Learn certain tactics. Choose targets in combat who have high strength, high courage, high firepower, low endurance, (to a smaller extent) high skill, rank and intelligence, and (to an even smaller extent) low speed.

Speed: Increase hit frequency. Increase dodge frequency.

Endurance: Increase damage absorption.

Rank: Wear better armor. Increase success of group tactics.

Courage: Increase attack frequency.

Firepower: Wield stronger weapons.

Skill: Wield certain weapons. Learn certain tactics.

(italicized items are not yet implemented)

Absorb: Absorb some of the damage from hits with your alt mode

Avoid: A purely defensive move. This tactic begins when you dodge an attack and allows you to move out of range of the enemy for a time.

Bite: Bite your target

Catch: Catch an avoiding target

Charge: Charge into a group of opponents

Dogfight: Hit other aircraft alts by fighting them in the sky

Drop: Carry a target into the air and drop it

Face of Death: Infects opponent with Cosmic Rust causing an energy drain for the entire match.

Face of Judgement: Possesses an opponent to attack its allies for a turn.

Face of War: Uses magnetic forces to tear an opponent apart. Tears away 1 ton of opponent's armor.

Face of Wisdom: Heals a Quintesson troop to 100%

Face of Wrath: Unleashes a tentacle attack that hits multiple targets.

Fireblast: Fire your turrets

Headmaster Attack: When you are in alt mode your partner can Transform and attack an opponent.

Ram: A ramming attack on one target. This tactic sometime stuns the target to prevent them from executing another attack.

Repair: Repairs teammate.

Slash: Slash at a target

Stealth: Hide from strafing aircraft

Strafe: A continuous attack on one or more targets. This tactic always hits at least one opponent, and has a possibility of hitting more.

Targetmaster Attack: Whenever you attack with a punch or kick your Nebulon partner is free to transform and attack an opponent.
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Postby Phasewing » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:57 am

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Mkall wrote:
Iatech Chronotron wrote:I could be way late with this, but is there any chances of there being an Electric Guitar? Say a Les Paul or Stratocaster? I think that would be just as dangerous as a turntable in a fight...

I do believe that Animated Soundwave will be transforming into a guitar...


I thought that was Laserbeak who transforms into a guitar? o.O'

...We're still getting that ugly-looking Doublecross alt? D:
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Postby Kitirah » Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:47 am

Gee. Losing almost every single one of my damn alt-modes if I stay Decepticon. Not willing to change factions either.

That's heartening.

Wonderful.

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Postby Archanubis » Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:52 am

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Another suggestion:
Make Image a common alt for the :CON:s as this is the alt form of Armada Thrust (I believe this and A. Thrust's jet form were both based on the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter)
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Postby Psychout » Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:18 am

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Oddly enough, im going to ask that these two are also made available to the Decepticons. :lol:
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But this
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Postby Sharpwing » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:14 am

Thunderscream wrote:Another suggestion:
Make Image a common alt for the :CON:s as this is the alt form of Armada Thrust (I believe this and A. Thrust's jet form were both based on the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter)


Hell no. I made the JSF to be an Autobot alt. It's Sharpwing's altmode afterall.
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Postby Archanubis » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:24 am

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Sharpwing wrote:
Thunderscream wrote:Another suggestion:
Make Image a common alt for the :CON:s as this is the alt form of Armada Thrust (I believe this and A. Thrust's jet form were both based on the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter)


Hell no. I made the JSF to be an Autobot alt. It's Sharpwing's altmode afterall.

In other words, your reasons are personal, so they don't count :P

I have no problem with the Autobots having that alt, but given that its a canon alt for the Decepticons, it sould be a common alt for them.

One other suggestion; more MiG and Sukhoi fighters, especially for the Decepticons; we got enough Western fighters as it is.
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Postby Jeep? » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:36 am

Psychout wrote:But this
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That alt is the entire reason why this characterwas created.
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Postby Sharpwing » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:15 am

Thunderscream wrote:
Sharpwing wrote:
Thunderscream wrote:Another suggestion:
Make Image a common alt for the :CON:s as this is the alt form of Armada Thrust (I believe this and A. Thrust's jet form were both based on the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter)


Hell no. I made the JSF to be an Autobot alt. It's Sharpwing's altmode afterall.

In other words, your reasons are personal, so they don't count :P


I made it! I should have copyright... or something :P
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