The Energon Pub

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:54 am

Agamemnon wrote:I think "significantly shorter" is subject to opinion too. The truth is that those who want to view these as MP scale have points in their favor for doing so. Those who want to view them as Classics voyager, there are very valid points there as well.

You did see this, right? I would say these guys are shorter. >:oP

I guess the "significantly" is a matter of opinion, and of course you can display them in any collection you like, but I maintain the scale is not really in line with HasTak Masterpieces. For that to be true, each Combaticon would need to be roughly 9" in height.

Agamemnon wrote:I'm not sure there's much use arguing about scale (and yet we continually do, eh? )

Indeed!

We collectors are full of opinions!

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:04 am

The limbs would each have to be as tall as Starscream to be in the Masterpiece scale.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:07 am

Dead Metal wrote:The limbs would each have to be as tall as Starscream to be in the Masterpiece scale.

You mean the limbs in robot mode, right?

The limbs, as arms and legs, are roughly Screamer's height.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:14 am

megatronus wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:The limbs would each have to be as tall as Starscream to be in the Masterpiece scale.

You mean the limbs in robot mode, right?

The limbs, as arms and legs, are roughly Screamer's height.

No, the bots that turn into limbs, like Swindle and co, to me they're not characters they're just body parts.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:21 am

megatronus wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:I think "significantly shorter" is subject to opinion too. The truth is that those who want to view these as MP scale have points in their favor for doing so. Those who want to view them as Classics voyager, there are very valid points there as well.

You did see this, right? I would say these guys are shorter.

I guess the "significantly" is a matter of opinion, and of course you can display them in any collection you like, but I maintain the scale is not really in line with HasTak Masterpieces. For that to be true, each Combaticon would need to be roughly 9" in height.

And I also saw the pictures with Masterpiece Countaches (that might be the first time I have ever used Countach as a plural...) that can easily allow people to conclude that these are appropriate to MP. I'm not saying that you have to. I'm only saying that people could easily do so. Is alt mode more important to scale? (Hence the direction after MP-10.) Or is cartoon accurate height more appropriate? If Alt Mode is, then where's that pic of an accurate scaled Bruticus based on the alt modes? That's hilarious.

[Edit] Here it is:

megatronus wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:I'm not sure there's much use arguing about scale (and yet we continually do, eh? )

Indeed!

We collector's are full of opinions!

Yessir, indeed!

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:37 am

Agamemnon wrote:Here it is:

^^^This! This! THIS!!! :lol:

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:42 am

megatronus wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Here it is:

^^^This! This! THIS!!!

Better one.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:44 am

Dead Metal wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Here it is:

^^^This! This! THIS!!!

Better one.

You guys are killing me. His itty bitty stumpy leg!

News Credits: 2 · by **paul053** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:50 am

Fantastic figures! Really impressive. Too big to my taste, though. Guess I will still stick with my FP Bruticus upgrade.

So, Vortex's chest window is fake? Otherwise how can it be so flat like that according to the alt mode.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:53 am

paul053 wrote:Fantastic figures! Really impressive. Too big to my taste, though. Guess I will still stick with my FP Bruticus upgrade.

So, Vortex's chest window is fake? Otherwise how can it be so flat like that according to the alt mode.

Yea, that's the weird thing, I mean if it's fake, why have it in the first place, they could have given him a cartoon accurate chest instead.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:56 am

Dead Metal wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Here it is:

Lol Whats'up with everyone using this picture for scale. I thought it was understood that Transformers mass shift bwt alt and robot mode (like soundwave, Megatron, cassettes, ect.)

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:18 pm

We're not using it for scale, we're using it to poke fun at those who want the alt-modes to scale realistically.

News Credits: 5 · by **RodimalToyota** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:32 pm

Where art thou pre-order button?

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:24 pm

Nope. As nice as these are, they're simply far too big for what I'd want to use them for. I will be passing on these.

News Credits: 10 · by **Arctorro** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:44 am

Exousia on tfw2005 did a digibash of the individual bot modes

by **NOS** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:57 am

xyl360 wrote:I don't see any reason at all for there to be any combiner "scale"

xyl360 wrote:I don't really care how they scale with one another

xyl360 wrote:I just want a bunch of big bad combiners, that's all.

xyl360 wrote:because scout size was too small for my tastes for any of them.

by **NOS** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:57 am

*sigh* double post lag

News Credits: 10 · by **Arctorro** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:02 am

Found another comparison pic, forget who did it.

Compared with this one that was posted earlier I'm stating to wonder just how big he is :-?

If he is the same height as Uranus or half a head taller then he is a great size. A full head or more then he is getting way to big.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:20 am

We won't really know just how big he truly is until someone actually has him in and. Remember all the comparisons people made of Giant and Hercules based on comparisons with other toys?
Depending on who made it Giant was either exactly the same height as Hercules, just a teeny bit shorter, or about half his size.

these comparisons until now are nice, and give us a hint at how large he might actually be, but ultimately not factual.

News Credits: 2 · by **Banjo-Tron** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:11 am

Vortex looks fat.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:26 am

Banjo-Tron wrote:Vortex looks fat.

by **NTESHFT** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:32 am

Dead Metal wrote:
Banjo-Tron wrote:Vortex looks fat.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:55 am

It's nuts how each new combiner has to be a head taller than the previous one. I can't be the only one kinda annoyed at this. No matter which line you follow (TFC height or FP height) it makes trying to collect everyone in about the same size kinda frustrating.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:03 am

Gauntlet101010 wrote:It's nuts how each new combiner has to be a head taller than the previous one. I can't be the only one kinda annoyed at this. No matter which line you follow (TFC height or FP height) it makes trying to collect everyone in about the same size kinda frustrating.

^^^This is why I pray HasTak will make MP Devastator, heralding a new, glorious and expensive eraof MP combiners.

It would probably be 5+ years out, if at all, but hey... a man can dream, can't he?

News Credits: 2 · by **xyl360** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:46 am

I don't see any reason at all for there to be any combiner "scale" given the wide variety of alt-modes we're talking about with each group. I just want a bunch of big bad combiners, that's all. I don't really care how they scale with one another. I'm just happy that they aren't doing these to scale with Energon like some of them have in the past (FP/Maketoys) because scout size was too small for my tastes for any of them.