The Energon Pub

Wow, I completely forgot I posted here, I suppose that's what happens when you're on the forums at awkward time. Well, lets see what's happened in the meanti...

Wait...WHAT THE HELL!

Wingspan wrote:

Hollow One wrote:Once again, you've hit the nail on the head.

You're still around? Then I can't resist.

*Kicks Hollow One in the nuts!*[/quote]

Oh that's just bang out of order there Wingspan, you've insulted and ridiculed me, and now you're going to get tasered!

*Tasers Wingspan*

...Wait, did that even do anyth...ah nuts to it!

Now back to something more relevant, this is not a demand, but does anyone know any progress on the new tactics, such as when they're due out, or on updating existing stats, like making repair *shock, horror* DO SOMETHING!

*Ahem*

Hmm, double post.

Hollow One, you post like a spaz.

I'd have used the term 'n00b' but that pretty much covers it.

At the very least you think he'd have shortened the 2nd post and made a joke out of it...

Hollow One wrote:making repair *shock, horror* DO SOMETHING!

Getting repair to work is easy, you just have to spend a few points on intelligence... Not too effective either way, but I remember doing a test and it did save the day even though my own 'con ended up stasis locked.

you have to have 10 points of int before it pays out the same xp as a 0str ram when the targets 0end.

Repair has *always* been a top end og the game tatic, I cant see why it would change now.

Is there any chance OS or the mods could start a thread that lists WHAT they are currently working on? It would be nice to know if any of our suggestions are being taken seriously or if this thread is just an excercise in futility...

Galvatron Supreme wrote:Is there any chance OS or the mods could start a thread that lists WHAT they are currently working on?

Honestly, no.

And we're better off that way; if something gets postponed, falls through, or just doesn't work (which has been known to happen) then no one will be disappointed. Additionally, it saves us the inter-poster conflict that would likely arise if one person's idea is being used and not another person's.

I'm sorry this means that some of you are expending a lot of energy solving problems that are already being addressed, or coming up with ideas already being implemented, but that's just the way it's going to be.

I will say that you probably shouldn't expect any major changes within the year of 2008. That's what OS stated in the thread about bringing back the Quintessons, and I assume that generally applies to everything else major.

Personally, I'm expecting it to take a good long while, given the number of things that have to be done and the impracticality of trying to break up interconnected fixes/improvements into updates that can be released separately, just so that we can satisfy our need for instant gratification. So I'm trying to just settle in and enjoy the game as is, just as we've all done for five years now.

That's all I'm going to say though, so don't press me for more information. If this thread derails from a creative brainstorming session into an "are we there yet" whine festival I will lock it.

Caelus wrote:

Galvatron Supreme wrote:Is there any chance OS or the mods could start a thread that lists WHAT they are currently working on?

That's all I'm going to say though, so don't press me for more information. If this thread derails from a creative brainstorming session into an "are we there yet" whine festival I will lock it.

Sorry, not whining. Just curious if our comments were falling on deaf ears. Your explanation makes perfect sense. Thank you!:grin:

Galvatron Supreme wrote:

Caelus wrote:

Galvatron Supreme wrote:Is there any chance OS or the mods could start a thread that lists WHAT they are currently working on?

That's all I'm going to say though, so don't press me for more information. If this thread derails from a creative brainstorming session into an "are we there yet" whine festival I will lock it.

Sorry, not whining. Just curious if our comments were falling on deaf ears. Your explanation makes perfect sense. Thank you!:grin:

Don't misunderstand me; your question was perfectly justified. I just don't want to see this become a thread fruitlessly dominated by the issue.

Thank you for understanding.

Daddy are we there yet?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Absolute Zero wrote:Daddy are we there yet?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

On Family Guy, Spider-Man wrote:Everybody gets one.

Caelus wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:Daddy are we there yet?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

On Family Guy, Spider-Man wrote:Everybody gets one.

Damn it! I should have saved it! RAR! *chews on a minicon*

alt modes with single tactics that are cheap.
the only reason the vampire bat mode sucked was its solo tactic avoid was 1500. if it had been 500, a fair price for a single tactic, or even 1000 it would have been worth it but 1500? whats the point

Rat Convoy wrote:Hollow One, you post like a spaz.

That's what a lack of sleep and about five other ailments does to you.

Wait, I've always been like that. Crap.

For the comment above, 1,000xp has been the cheapest cost for tactics (no point making tactics cheaper than the other stats). Similar arguments have been brought up about tactic standardised costs, so you're not alone on the matter.

a few more tactics would be nice

the fire breath/bite/grapple/blast tactics seem good. just basically existing tactics ehith different feeder stats.

a forum about which ideas are being con sidered would be nice. even if those tactics are discarded later it could let us know whats being considered and stop repetive posting. it doesn't need to be a "this is deffinately whats going to happen" post as much as a "we're toying with this idea" one.

it helps us to know whats goin on. there are many of the same ideas floating around but no one knows what the mods are plotting. Im not sayin thats bad, but i dont think anyone would mind a "teasers" thread

hope spidey doesn't consider this my "one"... lol

I'd still prefer new tactics that where actually new rather than just old tactics renamed and with a different feeder stat. as me and JP came up with, and actaully FIX the tactics so they balance;

RAM
FRQ=RAM*0.03
DMG=[RNG(10~16)]*[1+(STR/10)]*[2-(END/10)]
health is subtracted from target
Damage is boosted by attackers STR, and hurt by targets END

REPAIR
FRQ=REPAIR*0.03
DMG=[RNG(10~16)]*[1+(INT/10)]*[1+(END/10)]
health is added to target
Damage is boosted by attackers INT, and by targets END

AVOID
FRQ=AVOID*0.03
TF may avoid ALL types of attacks at above frequency


GRAPPLE
FRQ=GRAPPLE*0.03
TARGET DMG=2*[RNG(10~16)]*[2-(END/10)]
ATTACKER DMG=[RNG(10~16)]*[2-(END/10)]
health is subtracted from BOTH target and attacker
Target's Damage is hurt by targets END
Attackers Damage is hurt by attackers END

INSPIRE (MULTI-REPAIR)
FRQ=INSPIRE*0.03
FIRST SHOT DMG=[RNG(10~16)]*[1+(END/10)]
FOLLOWING SHOT DMG=[RNG(1~1.6)]*[1+(END/10)]
all hits repair allies
in an INSPIRATION you always get 1 first shot(which always hits a target), and then a number of following shots equal to double your RNK; Following shots are aimed at all TFs in the mission, only hits on ALLIES show up in logs; any hits against ENEMIES are ignored. so if the missions has equal numbers for each side, you should get about 1+RNK shots in each INSPIRATION.


COVER
FRQ=COVER*0.03
TF becomes target in place of an ally at above frequency


STRAFE
FRQ=STRAFE*0.03
FIRST SHOT DMG=[RNG(10~16)]*[2-(END/10)]
FOLLOWING SHOT DMG=[RNG(1~1.6)]*[2-(END/10)]
all hits damage enemies
in a strafe you always get 1 first shot(which always hits a target), and then a number of following shots equal to double your FRP; Following shots are aimed at all TFs in the mission, any that hit ALLIES are ignored; only hits against ENEMIES show up in logs. so if the missions has equal numbers for each side, you should get about 1+FRP shots in each strafe attack.

DRAIN
FRQ=DRAIN*0.03
DMG=[RNG(5~8)]*[1+(SKL/10)]*[2-(END/10)]
Damage done to enemy is returned to attacker as health

thats why tammuz is AWESOME

totally sound GREAT...

but im not a mod and dont know a thing about this games balance issues... but i love it

Name_Violation wrote:
but im not a mod and dont know a thing about this games balance issues

a non-sequitur if ever i saw one.


the thing is those tactics would balance, if you could get the rest of the stats to balance too....and i've got a few ideas on that subject aswell. ganted repair would still be a high level tactic but once int has a function you'd only need an ally a level above to actualy make it keep up with ram.

What alt-modes do you attach "inspire" to?

Flags?

Noble animals, Heavy Vehicles, Dragons and Tanks would be my suggestions

Bases, giant TFs, Leaders, the kind of morale boosting stuff that armies like having and spurs them on that little bit more.


having omega supreme on your side might just make you feel a little better about the battle

EDIT:and ambulances and other "pure repairing things" cos ambulances are not designed to ram things, they're ment to carry injured things smoothley

Casting a critical and expert* eye over the list: *I'm no expert...

Tammuz wrote:RAM
FRQ=RAM*0.03
DMG=[RNG(10~16)]*[1+(STR/10)]*[2-(END/10)]
health is subtracted from target
Damage is boosted by attackers STR, and hurt by targets END

Meh

Tammuz wrote:REPAIR
FRQ=REPAIR*0.03
DMG=[RNG(10~16)]*[1+(INT/10)]*[1+(END/10)]
health is added to target
Damage is boosted by attackers INT, and by targets END

Meh

Tammuz wrote:AVOID
FRQ=AVOID*0.03
TF may avoid ALL types of attacks at above frequency

Meh

Tammuz wrote:GRAPPLE
FRQ=GRAPPLE*0.03
TARGET DMG=2*[RNG(10~16)]*[2-(END/10)]
ATTACKER DMG=[RNG(10~16)]*[2-(END/10)]
health is subtracted from BOTH target and attacker
Target's Damage is hurt by targets END
Attackers Damage is hurt by attackers END

Mrh?

Tammuz wrote:INSPIRE (MULTI-REPAIR)
FRQ=INSPIRE*0.03
FIRST SHOT DMG=[RNG(10~16)]*[1+(END/10)]
FOLLOWING SHOT DMG=[RNG(1~1.6)]*[1+(END/10)]
all hits repair allies
in an INSPIRATION you always get 1 first shot(which always hits a target), and then a number of following shots equal to double your RNK; Following shots are aimed at all TFs in the mission, only hits on ALLIES show up in logs; any hits against ENEMIES are ignored. so if the missions has equal numbers for each side, you should get about 1+RNK shots in each INSPIRATION.

???

Tammuz wrote:COVER
FRQ=COVER*0.03
TF becomes target in place of an ally at above frequency

The cons should have a reverse version where we dive behind an ally instead of infront...

Tammuz wrote:STRAFE
FRQ=STRAFE*0.03
FIRST SHOT DMG=[RNG(10~16)]*[2-(END/10)]
FOLLOWING SHOT DMG=[RNG(1~1.6)]*[2-(END/10)]
all hits damage enemies
in a strafe you always get 1 first shot(which always hits a target), and then a number of following shots equal to double your FRP; Following shots are aimed at all TFs in the mission, any that hit ALLIES are ignored; only hits against ENEMIES show up in logs. so if the missions has equal numbers for each side, you should get about 1+FRP shots in each strafe attack.

Meh...

Tammuz wrote:DRAIN
FRQ=DRAIN*0.03
DMG=[RNG(5~8)]*[1+(SKL/10)]*[2-(END/10)]
Damage done to enemy is returned to attacker as health

Now that's more like it!


Pretty good ideas. Now give me some tactics where I can distract the enemy, raise a bunch of zombies and kill a Yak with mind bullets.

MIND BULLETS
FRQ=MIND BULLET*0.03
DMG=[50]*[1+(int/10)]* IF TARGET=YAK[2] IF TARGET=NON-YAK[2-(END/10)]
health is subtracted from target
Damage is boosted by attackers INT, and hurt by targets END, unless the target is a yak in which case the attack is always fatal.


as for raising the dead, who said repairs target list should exclude the stasislocked.

as for distracting the enemy....just drop your pants and inflate one of your bird's cow bum gloves.