Till-all-R1 wrote:I got to thinking about Cosmos today and feel it probably was a difficult one to design due to the nature of the alt mode and having almost no room for robot body part storage while in that form. One thing that might have helped with the high top appearance of the center fuselage is for it to have been telescoping into itself? So that while in saucer mode it doesn't look as jarring, on the other hand it does kind of resemble description by some individuals of certain saucer sightings seen in 30's and 40's.
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Till-all-R1 wrote:I got to thinking about Cosmos today and feel it probably was a difficult one to design due to the nature of the alt mode and having almost no room for robot body part storage while in that form. One thing that might have helped with the high top appearance of the center fuselage is for it to have been telescoping into itself? So that while in saucer mode it doesn't look as jarring, on the other hand it does kind of resemble description by some individuals of certain saucer sightings seen in 30's and 40's.
I thinks its accurate enough to what it is, dont know why everyone is complaining.
william-james88 wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Till-all-R1 wrote:I got to thinking about Cosmos today and feel it probably was a difficult one to design due to the nature of the alt mode and having almost no room for robot body part storage while in that form. One thing that might have helped with the high top appearance of the center fuselage is for it to have been telescoping into itself? So that while in saucer mode it doesn't look as jarring, on the other hand it does kind of resemble description by some individuals of certain saucer sightings seen in 30's and 40's.
I thinks its accurate enough to what it is, dont know why everyone is complaining.
With it now in hand I have 0 issues with the proportions in alt mode (robot mode was already perfect). It looks like the G1 show. I got to say, this toy feels more of quality than most others this year. I was not overly impressed with anything Legacy wave 1 (just got Scourge to try out the Laser Prime mold and it is so underwhelming) but Cosmos is as good as Transformers get. Before we even get to transformation, the deco is stellar. The green colour used for the plastic feels full (if that makes sense) and the paint apps added work so well that it feels the entire figure is painted in alt mode. And I love getting some magic in my transformation. I got it with the heel transformation which is a perfect example of using the alt mode parts to great effect on the robot mode. The head transformation is exceptionally clever too. He also feels very solid and I like the multipurpose accessory. Best figure from Legacy so far (Blaster is great too, but that guy is from Kingdom).
william-james88 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:If you can, still get the original Cybertron release. It really is a solid figure.
I hope you don't mind me butting in but I am really not a fan of that original override toy. Cubertron is one of the best lines we've ever gotten, but it had a few clunkers and I find override to be one of them.
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:william-james88 wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Till-all-R1 wrote:I got to thinking about Cosmos today and feel it probably was a difficult one to design due to the nature of the alt mode and having almost no room for robot body part storage while in that form. One thing that might have helped with the high top appearance of the center fuselage is for it to have been telescoping into itself? So that while in saucer mode it doesn't look as jarring, on the other hand it does kind of resemble description by some individuals of certain saucer sightings seen in 30's and 40's.
I thinks its accurate enough to what it is, dont know why everyone is complaining.
With it now in hand I have 0 issues with the proportions in alt mode (robot mode was already perfect). It looks like the G1 show. I got to say, this toy feels more of quality than most others this year. I was not overly impressed with anything Legacy wave 1 (just got Scourge to try out the Laser Prime mold and it is so underwhelming) but Cosmos is as good as Transformers get. Before we even get to transformation, the deco is stellar. The green colour used for the plastic feels full (if that makes sense) and the paint apps added work so well that it feels the entire figure is painted in alt mode. And I love getting some magic in my transformation. I got it with the heel transformation which is a perfect example of using the alt mode parts to great effect on the robot mode. The head transformation is exceptionally clever too. He also feels very solid and I like the multipurpose accessory. Best figure from Legacy so far (Blaster is great too, but that guy is from Kingdom).
I Thought the alt mode proportions are what they should be. But laser prime IS a great figure. But I saw scourge a Walmart and can say the deco probably changed your liking of it, it seems very bland in hand. Also, Blaster was planned for legacy but crossed into Kingdom, not the other way around. That's why he has a clear Eject, energon weapons are the gimmick for Legacy.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:If you can, still get the original Cybertron release. It really is a solid figure.
I hope you don't mind me butting in but I am really not a fan of that original override toy. Cubertron is one of the best lines we've ever gotten, but it had a few clunkers and I find override to be one of them.
I remember back in the day people complaining about the spring-loaded transformation but it never really bothered me, as I said to Counterpunch back then, you never saw a giant hand coming out of the sky to transform the robots. There were touches I liked, like having a hole in the gun to post the central piece into if you want weapon storage and not just in the back of the figure proper. There were some quibbles, like the rubber fins and gun barrels, but I liked it enough to get the GF black version.
Sabrblade wrote:I just found out from a Japanese Galaxy Force promo that the reason Override had that spring-loaded transformation was to emphasize her status as the fastest 'bot on Speed Planet. As in, she's so fast that even her transformation is faster than others'.
Sabrblade wrote:I just found out from a Japanese Galaxy Force promo that the reason Override had that spring-loaded transformation was to emphasize her status as the fastest 'bot on Speed Planet. As in, she's so fast that even her transformation is faster than others'.
Rysquad wrote:Walmart moved my pre-order from Blurr from August to November. Luckily we were able to find him in-store.
william-james88 wrote:While there are some things I dislike about Scourge, I don't see any issue with the shoulders. Can anyone tell me what about them made some fans not happy?
Sabrblade wrote:I just found out from a Japanese Galaxy Force promo that the reason Override had that spring-loaded transformation was to emphasize her status as the fastest 'bot on Speed Planet. As in, she's so fast that even her transformation is faster than others'.
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:While there are some things I dislike about Scourge, I don't see any issue with the shoulders. Can anyone tell me what about them made some fans not happy?
I guess it's the fact that those giant pilons are now floating shoulderpads instead of being part of the arm in a single block like the original.
I find this silly complaining about that because that new design improves the articulations greatly.
Overcracker wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:While there are some things I dislike about Scourge, I don't see any issue with the shoulders. Can anyone tell me what about them made some fans not happy?
I guess it's the fact that those giant pilons are now floating shoulderpads instead of being part of the arm in a single block like the original.
I find this silly complaining about that because that new design improves the articulations greatly.
Improves? How? On what?
Legacy Laser Prime and the original G2 Laser Prime have effectively the same range of movement on the shoulders.
G2 has the benefit of being able to look to the side when his arm is forward.
There only thing Legacy has over G2 is wrists and thighs.
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Overcracker wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:While there are some things I dislike about Scourge, I don't see any issue with the shoulders. Can anyone tell me what about them made some fans not happy?
I guess it's the fact that those giant pilons are now floating shoulderpads instead of being part of the arm in a single block like the original.
I find this silly complaining about that because that new design improves the articulations greatly.
Improves? How? On what?
Legacy Laser Prime and the original G2 Laser Prime have effectively the same range of movement on the shoulders.
G2 has the benefit of being able to look to the side when his arm is forward.
There only thing Legacy has over G2 is wrists and thighs.
Ankle tilt
Yes, ankle tilts too. 
