Image of Cancelled TFCC Sari Sumdac figure found
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 1st, 2017 @ 12:01pm CST
Posted by Microraptor on March 1st, 2017 @ 12:02pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Hey neat! That's from that new Transformers Animated fan book that just came out in Japan. There are a few other Animated-based proposals from Jesse Wittenrich in it.
Can you tell us about the others?
Posted by ScottyP on March 1st, 2017 @ 12:07pm CST
Posted by Immortal Starscream on March 1st, 2017 @ 12:13pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on March 1st, 2017 @ 12:18pm CST
Microraptor wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Hey neat! That's from that new Transformers Animated fan book that just came out in Japan. There are a few other Animated-based proposals from Jesse Wittenrich in it.
Can you tell us about the others?
This is where I found out about the book, with a ton of pics from the book shown here.ScottyP wrote:Are these "we were going to for sure do these before the license got pulled" or "just pitched ideas we moved on from or weren't allowed to do" material? One of those things is very different from the other.
This post lists all of Jesse's proposals that made it into the book:
The fifth one whose name was unknown is supposed to be Yoketron himself.
JESSE WITTENRICH
He offers an illustration and comics in TFCC.
He is in charge of a story line in Wings of Honor
He participates in the concept of TFCC and the BOTCON item from 2010.
It is Dion that he dealt first.
The sample photograph of his interview and item which was not manufactured is placed.
AOTOBOT Sari (Body is Windblade new head)
BW Megatron (Body is ANIMATED Grimlock)
BW Optimus Primal (Body is Sentinel Prime)
Wreck-Gar (Body is PRIME Breakdown new head)
Unknown name (Coloring near Yoketron, Body is Voyager class Brainstorm, New face)
Jesse then elaborated more here on the proposals that got put into the book, how some of them were for one Animated-based proposal while the others were for a different Animated-related proposal:
Note that the "Tri-Nox" mock up is not in the book. Jesse posted it himself.These are from two separate proposals. The first one was an all Beast Wars-themed set which told the story of Primal Minor searching for his missing friend. His journeys take him to a strange jungle where he finds a collective of odd semi-organic Decepticons, led by none other than Blackarachnia! The dark-hearted spider has continued her experiments and created Fractyl, Terrorsaur, Inferno, Antagony, and Megatron - an egotistical former tyrant who reminded her of her previous boss. To Minor's horror, also among the Decepticons is his friend, now renamed "Tri-Nox*", given a prehistoric beast mode, and enslaved using a control collar and brainwave bolts. The stalwart Autobot explorer must battle these Decepticons - or Predacons as they've taken to calling themselves - alone and so resorts to guerrilla warfare as he also tries time and again to break Blackarachnia's hold over Tri-Nox.
The second was Transformers Unanimated, featuring Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Sentinel Prime, Sari, and Yoketron vs. Starscream/Headmaster, Lugnut, Wasp, Elita-One, and a confused Wreck-Gar.
*Tri-Nox was going to just be a joke... until I did the mock-up and found I actually loved the results.
Also note that since the book is a fanbook, nothing within it is officially licensed by Hasbro or TakaraTomy.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on March 1st, 2017 @ 12:49pm CST
I hope this is a hint that Sari might show up again in fiction though.
Posted by DeathReviews on March 1st, 2017 @ 2:15pm CST
Posted by Mindmaster on March 1st, 2017 @ 2:49pm CST
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on March 1st, 2017 @ 2:51pm CST
Was this supposed to be the secret figure in this set?
Do we even still get a secret figure?
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on March 1st, 2017 @ 3:53pm CST
I guess it helps that it's powered by unobtanium.
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on March 1st, 2017 @ 4:46pm CST
Posted by Dr Lockdown on March 1st, 2017 @ 5:15pm CST
It has gotten me thinking; maybe a custom based on the current RID one would do well. Just a thought. I'll go ask Steamshield on TFW.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 1st, 2017 @ 9:20pm CST
Well, this could work VERY well!
But I have a better idea. Make her a titant master. On a clearly feminine body. That was my hope in Animated. But the show abruptly ended. Oh well.
Posted by Ultra Markus on March 1st, 2017 @ 9:48pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on March 1st, 2017 @ 11:05pm CST
It was part of a proposal that never got off the ground. Scroll up to my previous post to see exactly what this was figure concept was for.DecepticonFinishline wrote:?!?!?! But I WANT IT!!
Was this supposed to be the secret figure in this set?
Do we even still get a secret figure?
Posted by Flashwave on March 1st, 2017 @ 11:46pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on March 1st, 2017 @ 11:53pm CST
This was not a BotCon 2016 toy that got replaced by the finalized Airazor figure. It was part of a "Transformers: Unanimated" proposal that never even got off the ground.Flashwave wrote:But... The last Botcon used the Windblade md, right? It was an Airazor, I believe? I woilda passed on that Airazor since I had the original from Energon Slugslinger, but I woulda LOVED a Botcon Sari. I understand where Marketing woulda said "Airazor works better", but Sari is a figure we'll never see relwased.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 3rd, 2017 @ 9:47pm CST
And that Sari is wicked! Man, some good ideas that went kaput
Posted by Sabrblade on March 4th, 2017 @ 12:33am CST
Well, not so much "kaput" as "nah". These weren't so much "canceled" ideas as they were just "suggested" ideas that simply didn't go any further than the idea stage.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:A Sentinel Prime as Optimus Primal would have been really cool.
And that Sari is wicked! Man, some good ideas that went kaput
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 4th, 2017 @ 3:25pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Well, not so much "kaput" as "nah". These weren't so much "canceled" ideas as they were just "suggested" ideas that simply didn't go any further than the idea stage.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:A Sentinel Prime as Optimus Primal would have been really cool.
And that Sari is wicked! Man, some good ideas that went kaput
Still, brilliant to me. And cool
Posted by Sabrblade on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:45pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 5th, 2017 @ 12:02am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Here's a fan digibash of what the Headmaster Starscream from the "Transformers: Unanimated" set (which this Sari mock up was proposed for) might have looked like:
I'm actually in love with this. Why couldn't this have been a thing???
Posted by Sabrblade on March 5th, 2017 @ 1:18am CST
Though, the molds for the Beast Wars-themed set are pretty easy to deduce. Fractyl and Terrorsaur each from the Swoop mold, with Inferno and Antagony each from the Waspinator mold.
Posted by TF_JW on March 13th, 2017 @ 11:43am CDT
Hello subscribers!
Believe it or not the container is FINALLY here!
We will be preparing your first of three shipments this week so we need you to log in and verify your address on file by 5 pm on Tuesday March 14.
We have packed this final version in sets of two so you will only receive 3 shipments instead of 6.
Also for those of you on the installment payment plan, the billing dates will be April 3rd and May 1st. Please make sure your CC on file is current and correct.
Thanks for your patience!
Brian
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 13th, 2017 @ 11:53am CDT
Hello subscribers!
Believe it or not the container is FINALLY here!
We will be preparing your first of three shipments this week so we need you to log in and verify your address on file by 5 pm on Tuesday March 14.
We have packed this final version in sets of two so you will only receive 3 shipments instead of 6.
Also for those of you on the installment payment plan, the billing dates will be April 3rd and May 1st. Please make sure your CC on file is current and correct.
Thanks for your patience!
Brian
Posted by o.supreme on March 13th, 2017 @ 12:04pm CDT
Still no reveal for the 7th "Bonus" figure yet?
Posted by Sabrblade on March 13th, 2017 @ 12:26pm CDT
Nope. Not even a hint of it's identity in any of the TCC fiction. This could be the first mystery figure to actually be a complete mystery prior to its arrival at someone's doorstep.o.supreme wrote:Still no reveal for the 7th "Bonus" figure yet?
Posted by RNSrobot on March 13th, 2017 @ 12:44pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on March 13th, 2017 @ 12:50pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Nope. Not even a hint of it's identity in any of the TCC fiction. This could be the first mystery figure to actually be a complete mystery prior to its arrival at someone's doorstep.o.supreme wrote:Still no reveal for the 7th "Bonus" figure yet?
Whoever it turns out to be, I just hope its An Autobot/Maximal, or any "good" robot. My Optimus Maximus is missing a limb and needs it for completion .
Posted by steals_your_goats on March 13th, 2017 @ 12:56pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 13th, 2017 @ 1:06pm CDT
I once thought that too, but was shot down when someone told me that the idea for the 7th figure came about before the time when Ironclad would have been conceived. I'd like it if it turned out to be Ironclad, though.steals_your_goats wrote:My theory is that the mystery figure is Ironclad from the Rook mold with it's alternate head. They said the mystery figure was using a head not released yet and he is the reason that wreckage can combine. I also think it would be cool if he came with a redeco of legends groove as the "energy efficient" afterburner but that's not likely to happen.
Posted by Ultra Mad on March 13th, 2017 @ 1:10pm CDT
Posted by steals_your_goats on March 13th, 2017 @ 1:13pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I once thought that too, but was shot down when someone told me that the idea for the 7th figure came about before the time when Ironclad would have been conceived. I'd like it if it turned out to be Ironclad, though.steals_your_goats wrote:My theory is that the mystery figure is Ironclad from the Rook mold with it's alternate head. They said the mystery figure was using a head not released yet and he is the reason that wreckage can combine. I also think it would be cool if he came with a redeco of legends groove as the "energy efficient" afterburner but that's not likely to happen.
Oh, damn that's depressing lol I would've loved to have been able to put together Hasbro's initial concept for computron before deluxe afterburner happened. Plus rook is the best mold from combiner wars
Posted by o.supreme on March 13th, 2017 @ 1:20pm CDT
Ultra Mad wrote:Do we know which of the six figures will be shipped first?
No clue, but we do know they are shipping in "pairs", and the third shipment would *I assume* have 3 since it will contain the Bonus Figure.
Additionally the CW/UW Deluxe Figures with the fewest uses are the F1 Racer , the Deluxe Motorcycle, and of course the Space Shuttle (which is highly unlikely TFCC would use). But it would be nice if whatever character they make it would be one of those three.
Posted by kurthy on March 13th, 2017 @ 2:19pm CDT
OH, GOD, PLEASE DON'T LET MY JOKE BE TRUTH!!!
Posted by Powered Convoy on March 13th, 2017 @ 2:29pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Ultra Mad wrote:Do we know which of the six figures will be shipped first?
No clue, but we do know they are shipping in "pairs", and the third shipment would *I assume* have 3 since it will contain the Bonus Figure.
Additionally the CW/UW Deluxe Figures with the fewest uses are the F1 Racer , the Deluxe Motorcycle, and of course the Space Shuttle (which is highly unlikely TFCC would use). But it would be nice if whatever character they make it would be one of those three.
The TCC wasn't aware of the existence of the Deluxe Motorcycle or Space Shuttle when they were planning out their lineups for BotCon 2016, TFSS 4.0, and TFSS 5.0. Those two molds didn't exist back when they were making their mold selections (remembering these things were being worked on prior to BotCon 2015). There were a number of figures unknown to us at the time (such as Onslaught and Brawl) made known to the TCC, but the TakaraTomy only figures weren't made known to them by Hasbro (if Hasbro even knew that Takara was going to make them back when they provided the info to the TCC).
Randy
Posted by o.supreme on March 13th, 2017 @ 2:33pm CDT
kurthy wrote:Maybe it's not a combiner mold at all. Maybe it's Sunder from CW Buzzsaw.
OH, GOD, PLEASE DON'T LET MY JOKE BE TRUTH!!!
We know it will be a CW deluxe, and have an all-new head sculpt. That's about all we know.
Posted by Kurona on March 13th, 2017 @ 2:33pm CDT
Actually, just for reference; anyone got that list of currently unused CW headsculpts? Lookin' at you, Jelze...
Posted by o.supreme on March 13th, 2017 @ 2:37pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:kurthy wrote:Maybe it's not a combiner mold at all. Maybe it's Sunder from CW Buzzsaw.
OH, GOD, PLEASE DON'T LET MY JOKE BE TRUTH!!!
We know it will be a CW deluxe, and have an all-new head sculpt. That's about all we knowPowered Convoy wrote:The TCC wasn't aware of the existence of the Deluxe Motorcycle or Space Shuttle when they were planning out their lineups for BotCon 2016, TFSS 4.0, and TFSS 5.0. Those two molds didn't exist back when they were making their mold selections (remembering these things were being worked on prior to BotCon 2015). There were a number of figures unknown to us at the time (such as Onslaught and Brawl) made known to the TCC, but the TakaraTomy only figures weren't made known to them by Hasbro (if Hasbro even knew that Takara was going to make them back when they provided the info to the TCC).
Randy
well I guess I can have a small bit of hope for the F1 racer. Skid-Z anyone???
Posted by RNSrobot on March 13th, 2017 @ 3:07pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:o.supreme wrote:kurthy wrote:Maybe it's not a combiner mold at all. Maybe it's Sunder from CW Buzzsaw.
OH, GOD, PLEASE DON'T LET MY JOKE BE TRUTH!!!
We know it will be a CW deluxe, and have an all-new head sculpt. That's about all we knowPowered Convoy wrote:The TCC wasn't aware of the existence of the Deluxe Motorcycle or Space Shuttle when they were planning out their lineups for BotCon 2016, TFSS 4.0, and TFSS 5.0. Those two molds didn't exist back when they were making their mold selections (remembering these things were being worked on prior to BotCon 2015). There were a number of figures unknown to us at the time (such as Onslaught and Brawl) made known to the TCC, but the TakaraTomy only figures weren't made known to them by Hasbro (if Hasbro even knew that Takara was going to make them back when they provided the info to the TCC).
Randy
well I guess I can have a small bit of hope for the F1 racer. Skid-Z anyone???
Man I love that mold. I'm expecting another dead end or prowl.
Posted by kurthy on March 13th, 2017 @ 3:12pm CDT
RNSrobot wrote:o.supreme wrote:o.supreme wrote:kurthy wrote:Maybe it's not a combiner mold at all. Maybe it's Sunder from CW Buzzsaw.
OH, GOD, PLEASE DON'T LET MY JOKE BE TRUTH!!!
We know it will be a CW deluxe, and have an all-new head sculpt. That's about all we knowPowered Convoy wrote:The TCC wasn't aware of the existence of the Deluxe Motorcycle or Space Shuttle when they were planning out their lineups for BotCon 2016, TFSS 4.0, and TFSS 5.0. Those two molds didn't exist back when they were making their mold selections (remembering these things were being worked on prior to BotCon 2015). There were a number of figures unknown to us at the time (such as Onslaught and Brawl) made known to the TCC, but the TakaraTomy only figures weren't made known to them by Hasbro (if Hasbro even knew that Takara was going to make them back when they provided the info to the TCC).
Randy
well I guess I can have a small bit of hope for the F1 racer. Skid-Z anyone???
Man I love that mold. I'm expecting another dead end or prowl.
Jazz?
Posted by Kurona on March 13th, 2017 @ 3:25pm CDT
Posted by Powered Convoy on March 13th, 2017 @ 5:51pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:kurthy wrote:Maybe it's not a combiner mold at all. Maybe it's Sunder from CW Buzzsaw.
OH, GOD, PLEASE DON'T LET MY JOKE BE TRUTH!!!
We know it will be a CW deluxe, and have an all-new head sculpt. That's about all we know.
They didn't say an all new head sculpt but a head sculpt not used by Hasbro.
Posted by Zeedust on March 13th, 2017 @ 5:58pm CDT
...I didn't get an email. is that bad?
Kurona wrote:UW Blast Off as Spacewarp?
Leaving aside that someone's mentioned how they wouldn't have known about the mold, there's already a little Spacewarp included with double pretender Megs.
Powered Convoy wrote:They didn't say an all new head sculpt but a head sculpt not used by Hasbro.
Why do I get the feeling it's probably the Starscream head?
Posted by Powered Convoy on March 13th, 2017 @ 5:59pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Wouldn't it be awesome if it was that unused Demolishor version of Onslaught?
Actually, just for reference; anyone got that list of currently unused CW headsculpts? Lookin' at you, Jelze...
Demolisher Onslaught
Starscream Cyclonus
Inferno Hotspot
Starscream Skydive
Thrust Air Raid
Ironclad Rook
Hoist Trailbreaker
Ones that exist that Hasbro hasn't used but were not on the table when the TCC was planning their figures.
Deluxe Groove / Afterburner
UW Blast Off / Strafe
UW Lightspeed
UW Scattershot
uW Nosecone
CW Strafe (changes were made later)
Victorion limbs & torso
Posted by Sabrblade on March 13th, 2017 @ 11:25pm CDT
I thought it was said that Ironclad wasn't made known until after the TFSS 5.0 figures were finalized.Powered Convoy wrote:Ironclad Rook
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 14th, 2017 @ 2:21am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I thought it was said that Ironclad wasn't made known until after the TFSS 5.0 figures were finalized.Powered Convoy wrote:Ironclad Rook
"Ironclad" was supposedly built-in, so the club should have been aware of its existence when they made Impactor and Tarantulas with the mold plans. It just lacked a proper name I think.
Posted by prjkt on March 14th, 2017 @ 5:03am CDT
Posted by G.B. Blackrock on March 14th, 2017 @ 11:22am CDT
prjkt wrote:Fracture/Crasher, maybe even Leadfoot out of the Dragstrip mould? That's been used for what? 2.5 characters so far?
I'm sure that such choices (especially Fracture/Crasher, but if Leadfoot maintains the tradition of having the Blackrock name written on him, I'm of course all for that) would be quite popular.
The problem is that we have no knowledge of a pre-existing (but heretofore unused in the US) head for that mold.
While the language used could technically mean a new (not previously existing) head, they wouldn't have referred to it the way they did if it were so. They've have simply said "new head."
So, unless there is a pre-existing head for that mold we simply haven't ever known about, I'm afraid it's just not going to happen.
(All clues point to Sunstorm... I'm not thrilled with this option, but figure I hit the jackpot with Bluestreak, and so have no right to complain.)