Official Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Wave 1 with In-Pack Comics

So does the inclusion of comics mean that the collectors cards are gone?

i wonder what the comic content actually is

RhA wrote:So does the inclusion of comics mean that the collectors cards are gone?

Yes. The Deluxes with cards are the international versions while the Deluxes with comics are the U.S. versions.

Emerje wrote:

LegendaryAntiHero wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

LegendaryAntiHero wrote:Awesome, a Transformer riding inside another Transformer

Not quite: Flattop is a Micromaster Transport, which means the vehicle he's on (an aircraft carrier) transforms too, a jet in fact. Think Broadside without the robot mode

You mean like Generations Brainstorm?

Not that complex. Flattop's transport is strictly a vehicle and doesn't even have it's own name, let alone sentient. Brainstorm consists of two distinct characters: the body, Brainstorm and the head, Arcana. Unless it's the Japanese version, then the body really is just a vehicle ("Transtector") and the head is the character.

Anyway, Off-Road's bio is interesting, he sounds like a politician. Careful, Motormaster, he might be gunning for your spot. Either that or he's a well trained Autobot spy.

Rook must be pretty happy that the guy he's replacing is still on the team.

Emerje

I keep thinking that's what they should've did with all three teams. Sell Slingshot and Dead End in the legends class instead of Powerglide and Blackjack. Slingshot is the smallest jet anyway, and I think people wouldn't have minded the size difference and new members as long as they could get the whole original lineup for each goup.

steve2275 wrote:i wonder what the comic content actually is

They'll be labelled as Combiner Wars 1-4 (Wave 2 was Combiner Wars 5-8) but will in fact be RiD 9-12 (as Wave 2 was really RiD 13-16)

RiddlerJ wrote:

Emerje wrote:

LegendaryAntiHero wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

LegendaryAntiHero wrote:Awesome, a Transformer riding inside another Transformer

Not quite: Flattop is a Micromaster Transport, which means the vehicle he's on (an aircraft carrier) transforms too, a jet in fact. Think Broadside without the robot mode

You mean like Generations Brainstorm?

Not that complex. Flattop's transport is strictly a vehicle and doesn't even have it's own name, let alone sentient. Brainstorm consists of two distinct characters: the body, Brainstorm and the head, Arcana. Unless it's the Japanese version, then the body really is just a vehicle ("Transtector") and the head is the character.

Anyway, Off-Road's bio is interesting, he sounds like a politician. Careful, Motormaster, he might be gunning for your spot. Either that or he's a well trained Autobot spy.

Rook must be pretty happy that the guy he's replacing is still on the team.

Emerje

I keep thinking that's what they should've did with all three teams. Sell Slingshot and Dead End in the legends class instead of Powerglide and Blackjack. Slingshot is the smallest jet anyway, and I think people wouldn't have minded the size difference and new members as long as they could get the whole original lineup for each goup.

No, I mind. I like the Powerglide we got, Blackjack is a new character(somewhat)as I like new characters, and Slingshot is DEAD. You wouldn't have the "original" lineup for Menasor by making Deadend as a legends. Because Wildrider doesn't exist in the comics.

Sabrblade wrote:

RhA wrote:So does the inclusion of comics mean that the collectors cards are gone?

Yes. The Deluxes with cards are the international versions while the Deluxes with comics are the U.S. versions.

That sucks. I would rather have the comics. Maybe I should return mine with the cards when I see the comic ones at retail?

shockblast2 wrote:Because Wildrider doesn't exist in the comics.

This statement makes it sound like Wildrider's never been in the comics, which isn't true, since he has been in them before.

Sabrblade wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:Because Wildrider doesn't exist in the comics.

This statement makes it sound like Wildrider's never been in the comics, which isn't true, since he has been in them before.

Like when? I haven't seen it in the last few years.

Did he get smoked like Slingshot?

I just looked it up and it appears he did make a few appearances, but just randomly disappeared from the comics. Presumably dead.

So I guess I should have said "no longer" exists. Maybe its carcass will show up soon, like Slingshot.

shockblast2 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:Because Wildrider doesn't exist in the comics.

This statement makes it sound like Wildrider's never been in the comics, which isn't true, since he has been in them before.

Like when? I haven't seen it in the last few years.

Did he get smoked like Slingshot?

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Wildrider_(G1)#IDW_Generation_1_continuity
He's still around, he just hasn't done anything noteworthy in a while.

That Bot wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:Because Wildrider doesn't exist in the comics.

This statement makes it sound like Wildrider's never been in the comics, which isn't true, since he has been in them before.

Like when? I haven't seen it in the last few years.

Did he get smoked like Slingshot?

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Wildrider_(G1)#IDW_Generation_1_continuity
He's still around, he just hasn't done anything noteworthy in a while.

I don't see any evidence that it is still around. I think it is dead, and the fact that it has been replaced pretty much backs that up. Just waiting for the carcass to show up randomly like with Sling shot.

of course....

You know, I was digging the whole comics in package thing...

UNTILL I opened my Rattrap a couple weeks ago... Dang comic in his had NO RATTRAP IN IT AT ALL The comic was totally unrelated to him, not even one panel.

Sooooo, now I am just like card? Comic? Whatever... Just give me my dang toy.

Heh, looks like I will have a set of figures to display uncombined...

Drag strip is a nice figure

I noticed the head for some reason looks like the one from TFA wild-rider

And also the my version came with the card but it was stated above that the US versions came with a comic book

Maybe the Walmart closest to me had the wrong batch

I got CW wave 2 over the weekend, boy combined Menasor really is a mess. Blackjack refuses to stay on his chest, I had to Blu-Tak it on.

Very nice as individuals tho. Think this will be my first combiner I will display not combined

Autobot tap out wrote:Drag strip is a nice figure

I noticed the head for some reason looks like the one from TFA wild-rider

And also the my version came with the card but it was stated above that the US versions came with a comic book

Maybe the Walmart closest to me had the wrong batch

The re-releases in Wave 2 come with the comics.

Autobot tap out wrote:Drag strip is a nice figure

I noticed the head for some reason looks like the one from TFA wild-rider

And also the my version came with the card but it was stated above that the US versions came with a comic book

Maybe the Walmart closest to me had the wrong batch

Naw, the first ones were the international release because the CW comics were not ready. It's been discussed a lot in this thread, if you want to take a gander back through the pages. I don't blame you if you don't.

Kinda glad I passed on Menasaur. I wasn't impressed with Motormaster, that's a lot of grey plastic.

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No, I mind. I like the Powerglide we got, Blackjack is a new character(somewhat)as I like new characters, and Slingshot is DEAD. You wouldn't have the "original" lineup for Menasor by making Deadend as a legends. Because Wildrider doesn't exist in the comics.[/quote]


HOLD IT people no where in the IDW comic has it said 'Slingshot is Dead'

Wheeljack further points out that Slingshot seems beyond saving

This doesn't mean he's dead this means he's in a very critical condition

zatara1701 wrote:You know, I was digging the whole comics in package thing...

UNTILL I opened my Rattrap a couple weeks ago... Dang comic in his had NO RATTRAP IN IT AT ALL The comic was totally unrelated to him, not even one panel.

Sooooo, now I am just like card? Comic? Whatever... Just give me my dang toy.

It is presumed that Rattrap and Skywarp were inadvertently given each other's comics due to a reshuffling of the toyline, since Skywarp's comic showcases Rattrap while Rattrap's comic showcases Skywarp.

Plus, the comic included with Rattrap had its pages greatly out of order.

Well, I just got my Motormaster in the mail and I love him. Finally a decent Motormaster! And that Menasor-head looks awesome, pictures did not do it justice.

well that sucks, id rather have the comics than the stupid cards. Oh well i only paid $11 for each of em so its not a total lose. I just dont understand why they are reissuing these already, they just started hitting mass retail. When these come out there are going to be both versions on the shelves confusing people & taking up space. Id rather see arcee & chromia get another release.

Megatron Wolf wrote:well that sucks, id rather have the comics than the stupid cards. Oh well i only paid $11 for each of em so its not a total lose. I just dont understand why they are reissuing these already, they just started hitting mass retail. When these come out there are going to be both versions on the shelves confusing people & taking up space. Id rather see arcee & chromia get another release.

Because the first US releases had the international variants by mistake, due to production timing issues. They're now rectifying that mistake with the 2nd wave, releasing the first wave as intended with the comics.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:well that sucks, id rather have the comics than the stupid cards. Oh well i only paid $11 for each of em so its not a total lose. I just dont understand why they are reissuing these already, they just started hitting mass retail. When these come out there are going to be both versions on the shelves confusing people & taking up space. Id rather see arcee & chromia get another release.

Because the first US releases had the international variants by mistake, due to production timing errors. They're now rectifying that mistake with the 2nd wave, releasing the first wave as intended with the comics.

Wait I thought the first wave didn't have comics because the comics weren't ready, as opposed to because it's an international variant? It would suck to think that I (in Malaysia) won't get to see a reissue of the first wave without comics.

I've already bought all the first wave deluxes so I won't get it again just for the comics, but it's still a bummer.

albnok wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:well that sucks, id rather have the comics than the stupid cards. Oh well i only paid $11 for each of em so its not a total lose. I just dont understand why they are reissuing these already, they just started hitting mass retail. When these come out there are going to be both versions on the shelves confusing people & taking up space. Id rather see arcee & chromia get another release.

Because the first US releases had the international variants by mistake, due to production timing errors. They're now rectifying that mistake with the 2nd wave, releasing the first wave as intended with the comics.

Wait I thought the first wave didn't have comics because the comics weren't ready, as opposed to because it's an international variant? It would suck to think that I (in Malaysia) won't get to see a reissue of the first wave without comics.

I've already bought all the first wave deluxes so I won't get it again just for the comics, but it's still a bummer.

Those two reasons are not mutually exclusive (is that the right wording?).

The comics werent available yet so the first wave didnt have any distinguishing differences between the english release and international release. But now, there are comics so not only will there be a distinction in wave 2, but now any rerelease of wave one will have 2 distinct releases: one English and one International. If Malaysia didnt get the comics in the past generations lines, it wont get them now (Hong Kong did and thus can get the rereleased versions with the comics). Canada never got the comics and still wont.

It's not that complicated.

albnok wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:well that sucks, id rather have the comics than the stupid cards. Oh well i only paid $11 for each of em so its not a total lose. I just dont understand why they are reissuing these already, they just started hitting mass retail. When these come out there are going to be both versions on the shelves confusing people & taking up space. Id rather see arcee & chromia get another release.

Because the first US releases had the international variants by mistake, due to production timing errors. They're now rectifying that mistake with the 2nd wave, releasing the first wave as intended with the comics.

Wait I thought the first wave didn't have comics because the comics weren't ready, as opposed to because it's an international variant? It would suck to think that I (in Malaysia) won't get to see a reissue of the first wave without comics.

I've already bought all the first wave deluxes so I won't get it again just for the comics, but it's still a bummer.

Like I said "production timing issues", meaning some parts weren't finished in time or even produced in the wrong order (International first instead of US). There's a message about that a few pages back.

william-james88 wrote:

albnok wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:well that sucks, id rather have the comics than the stupid cards. Oh well i only paid $11 for each of em so its not a total lose. I just dont understand why they are reissuing these already, they just started hitting mass retail. When these come out there are going to be both versions on the shelves confusing people & taking up space. Id rather see arcee & chromia get another release.

Because the first US releases had the international variants by mistake, due to production timing errors. They're now rectifying that mistake with the 2nd wave, releasing the first wave as intended with the comics.

Wait I thought the first wave didn't have comics because the comics weren't ready, as opposed to because it's an international variant? It would suck to think that I (in Malaysia) won't get to see a reissue of the first wave without comics.

I've already bought all the first wave deluxes so I won't get it again just for the comics, but it's still a bummer.

Those two reasons are not mutually exclusive (is that the right wording?).

The comics werent available yet so the first wave didnt have any distinguishing differences between the english release and international release. But now, there are comics so not only will there be a distinction in wave 2, but now any rerelease of wave one will have 2 distinct releases: one English and one International. If Malaysia didnt get the comics in the past generations lines, it wont get them now (Hong Kong did and thus can get the rereleased versions with the comics). Canada never got the comics and still wont.

It's not that complicated.

Okay just one more - what's the difference between English/US release and international release?

Malaysia got the comics in the previous Generations lines. So does the presence of a comic imply English/US release, or is it:

English/US release with comics
International release with comics (Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore)
International release without comics (Canada)

albnok wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

albnok wrote:
I've already bought all the first wave deluxes so I won't get it again just for the comics, but it's still a bummer.

Those two reasons are not mutually exclusive (is that the right wording?).

The comics werent available yet so the first wave didnt have any distinguishing differences between the english release and international release. But now, there are comics so not only will there be a distinction in wave 2, but now any rerelease of wave one will have 2 distinct releases: one English and one International. If Malaysia didnt get the comics in the past generations lines, it wont get them now (Hong Kong did and thus can get the rereleased versions with the comics). Canada never got the comics and still wont.

It's not that complicated.

Okay just one more - what's the difference between English/US release and international release?

Malaysia got the comics in the previous Generations lines. So does the presence of a comic imply English/US release, or is it:

English/US release with comics
International release with comics (Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore)
International release without comics (Canada)

English release does not need to have any other language than english on the box or contents (ie comics). International release has everything translated. That's it, the only 2 options. Some countries' laws dont care if their language isnt on the box or contents and will still sell the English version (usually with a sticker saying "be careful small parts" in whatever their language is). But other countries do.

If Malaysia got the comics before (just like Hong Kong, Australia, and Singapore)then they will get these comics. You guys get the same product as the states, your laws are not as restrictive.

william-james88 wrote:

albnok wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

albnok wrote:
I've already bought all the first wave deluxes so I won't get it again just for the comics, but it's still a bummer.

Those two reasons are not mutually exclusive (is that the right wording?).

The comics werent available yet so the first wave didnt have any distinguishing differences between the english release and international release. But now, there are comics so not only will there be a distinction in wave 2, but now any rerelease of wave one will have 2 distinct releases: one English and one International. If Malaysia didnt get the comics in the past generations lines, it wont get them now (Hong Kong did and thus can get the rereleased versions with the comics). Canada never got the comics and still wont.

It's not that complicated.

Okay just one more - what's the difference between English/US release and international release?

Malaysia got the comics in the previous Generations lines. So does the presence of a comic imply English/US release, or is it:

English/US release with comics
International release with comics (Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore)
International release without comics (Canada)

English release does not need to have any other language than english on the box or contents (ie comics). International release has everything translated. That's it, the only 2 options. Some countries' laws dont care if their language isnt on the box or contents and will still sell the English version (usually with a sticker saying "be careful small parts" in whatever their language is). But other countries do.

If Malaysia got the comics before (just like Hong Kong, Australia, and Singapore)then they will get these comics. You guys get the same product as the states, your laws are not as restrictive.

US release, not English. UK and Australia (and other Anglophone countries) get the international version.

Va'al wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

albnok wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

albnok wrote:
I've already bought all the first wave deluxes so I won't get it again just for the comics, but it's still a bummer.

Those two reasons are not mutually exclusive (is that the right wording?).

The comics werent available yet so the first wave didnt have any distinguishing differences between the english release and international release. But now, there are comics so not only will there be a distinction in wave 2, but now any rerelease of wave one will have 2 distinct releases: one English and one International. If Malaysia didnt get the comics in the past generations lines, it wont get them now (Hong Kong did and thus can get the rereleased versions with the comics). Canada never got the comics and still wont.

It's not that complicated.

Okay just one more - what's the difference between English/US release and international release?

Malaysia got the comics in the previous Generations lines. So does the presence of a comic imply English/US release, or is it:

English/US release with comics
International release with comics (Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore)
International release without comics (Canada)

English release does not need to have any other language than english on the box or contents (ie comics). International release has everything translated. That's it, the only 2 options. Some countries' laws dont care if their language isnt on the box or contents and will still sell the English version (usually with a sticker saying "be careful small parts" in whatever their language is). But other countries do.

If Malaysia got the comics before (just like Hong Kong, Australia, and Singapore)then they will get these comics. You guys get the same product as the states, your laws are not as restrictive.

US release, not English. UK and Australia (and other Anglophone countries) get the international version.

So UK and Australia dont get the comics?

But then that gets super confusing because Hong Kong, Singapore and (newly known to me) Malaysia gets those versions too. I am super surprised Australia doesnt get the comics.

You know, I'm not sure. Australia might get the US release (which is different from the international release), as do Malaysia, Hong Kong and Singapore. I'm guessing Hasbro Asia works with US releases for some things.

I'll ask Burn about Oz.

As for anything within the EU (and I do not care if UK people like to believe they are not part of it), multiple languages need to be present, so an English-only publication cannot be released.

Indeed, the only way, besides Internet, to get the generations with comics, is to go to an import shop or comic shop. It's fairly annoying. ..and I don't know the reason why we don't get them!

EU language laws and international licensing. Hasbro UK and Hasbro EU are both responsible for both of those, too, and it's also the reason behind the amusing one-line bios.

I personally don't mind, as the comics are one thing and the toys are another, and I get the comics anyway. But I can see how some types of collector will find this annoying.

Ah I see, thanks Va'al it makes sense considering the single market of the EU. For the record, Im all for the EU

What's weird though, is that Europe has suffered a bit of a relapse in the language department: instead of 13(!) languages, EU Combiner Wars packaging now has a measly 4.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:What's weird though, is that Europe has suffered a bit of a relapse in the language department: instead of 13(!) languages, EU Combiner Wars packaging now has a measly 4.

24. TWENTY. FOUR.

http://ec.europa.eu/languages/policy/li ... -eu_en.htm

Va'al wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:What's weird though, is that Europe has suffered a bit of a relapse in the language department: instead of 13(!) languages, EU Combiner Wars packaging now has a measly 4.

24. TWENTY. FOUR.

http://ec.europa.eu/languages/policy/li ... -eu_en.htm

Yet the packaging only has 4... Well, here in the Netherlands anyway

Yeah, it's four for all now. Trying to find a supporting source for it.

We're back to 4? I didn't notice. Packaging is there to be destroyed, not read.

I don't want the comics though. they're just rereleases of the retail comics with special covers. Anyone want to trade with me? I'll send you the comics, you send me the cards...

RhA wrote:We're back to 4? I didn't notice. Packaging is there to be destroyed, not read.

In Quebec, Canada, Packaging is there to represent independence, difference, and to create laws that piss me off.

william-james88 wrote:

RhA wrote:We're back to 4? I didn't notice. Packaging is there to be destroyed, not read.

In Quebec, Canada, Packaging is there to represent independence, difference, and to create laws that piss me off.

In Europe, they serve as a means of entertainment in the form of "Lost in Translation". Especially Dutch seems to be a tricky language for the translators ("Robot Function" for "Robot Mode", really?)

Relevant:





HOW ABOUT DEM COMBININ ROBITS HUH

Those combining bots are pretty good, almost as good as this far more relevant comic

J'aime les robots géants. J'aime les Guerres des Combiners.

Je suis un grand fan de prendre les petits robots et de les combiner en une gigantesque robot super colausul . Temps pour faire la fête !

Hey Va'al. that comic is very relevant. says the guys whose province would have a better chance it it separated than Quebec would.

Of course I married a French-Canadian girl so that does't help. Even if Quebec separated we would have to go there to visit my in-laws.

Cobotron wrote:Je suis un grand fan de prendre les petits robots et de les combiner en une gigantesque robot super colausul . Temps pour faire la fête !

My my, google translate must have been working overtime, or are you just that good?

In case anyone cares to see how close that was:

Je suis un grand fan de prendre des petits robots et de les combiner en un gigantesque robot super colossal. Temps de faire la fête!