Titans Return Siege on Cybertron Box Set Bio Images

Overcracker wrote:Hasbro needs to stop using Google Translate for their bios and hire actual Translators. Some of those are painful to read.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Do the Titan Masters for Magnus, Metalhawk, or Tidalwave have names?

MagicDeath wrote:Did we ever get images of the bios for the other set? I still have the poster thing.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Why exactly shouldn't it have been there? Ginrai was a fairly logical assumption given Metalhawk's presence. Considering, y'know, Metalhawk was of Masterforce origins. The TM partner looking like Optimus (Where's your source for this by the way? The only thing I've seen stated about color changes to it is that the legs and head were made blue.) would not exactly pin the toy down as either of them, it would simply mean the TM partner was changed to reflect the cab robot rather than the Powermaster/Godmaster.

There was enough evidence to suggest that Magnus Prime was a form of Ginrai, but not enough to officially establish him as such. With the bio revealing the function of City Commander, one that Ultra Magnus had, plus the missile launchers that are normally not present on the Ginrai mold suggest it's supposed to be him, not Ginrai. But nothing conclusive just yet until he appears in fiction. TFWiki is far from an official authority, but companies do use it to excess (look up Roadburner to see what I mean).

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Why exactly shouldn't it have been there? Ginrai was a fairly logical assumption given Metalhawk's presence. Considering, y'know, Metalhawk was of Masterforce origins.

Except that Metalhawk actually is Metalhawk. Hasbro has used the name "Ginrai" in the past, so if they wanted Magnus Prime to be Ginrai, there was nothing stopping Hasbro from naming him "Ginrai". Yet, he was given a name that has nothing to do with Ginrai since Ginrai is neither a Prime nor a Magnus. It made no sense for an Optimus Prime-lookalike named "Magnus Prime" to be Ginrai.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The TM partner looking like Optimus (Where's your source for this by the way?

The in-hand pics of the Titan Master that we saw awhile back, which had the Titan Master colored to look like a mini-Optimus Prime.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The only thing I've seen stated about color changes to it is that the legs and head were made blue.) would not exactly pin the toy down as either of them, it would simply mean the TM partner was changed to reflect the cab robot rather than the Powermaster/Godmaster.

Thing is, when it comes to the Ginrai character, it's the small dude that matters the most since that little dude is the character's real self while the larger toy is just a lifeless mech. And that small dude certainly don't look like Ginrai.

Overcracker wrote:Hasbro needs to stop using Google Translate for their bios and hire actual Translators. Some of those are painful to read.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Do the Titan Masters for Magnus, Metalhawk, or Tidalwave have names?

Kurona wrote:

MagicDeath wrote:Did we ever get images of the bios for the other set? I still have the poster thing.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:how many "Optimus Prime" figures with a different design each does a line need?

as many as can be sold come christmas.

Parents think: "Laser Prime, Magnus Prime, or Optimus Prime? Must be different guys, I'll get them all"
Kids know: "Mom and dad got me three Optimus Primes! YAY"

Optimum Supreme wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Hasbro needs to stop using Google Translate for their bios and hire actual Translators. Some of those are painful to read.

Or better yet, cut the multilingual stuff all together, wastes so much space and just looks messy.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Hasbro and FunPub using the name "Ginrai" in the past does not preclude Hasbro balking at using the Japanese name in the present.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Especially since that usage was on a toy sold at a convention and thus aimed directly at fans, while this is being aimed at a general market.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Except that said mech came to life as a true Transformer by the same name at the end of Masterforce,

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Also, link to these "In-hand" images?

Sabrblade wrote:this current Hasbro team has a hard on for Japanese G1. They'd take every opportunity to use whatever Japanese character names that they'd could if they wanted to

Sabrblade wrote: Hasbro used the name "Ginrai" in their 2003 Commemorative Series reissue of Powermaster Optimus Prime.

robotcaveman wrote:Is there anything about rid warrior class Thundercracker?

robotcaveman wrote:Is there anything about rid warrior class Thundercracker?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Hasbro needs to stop using Google Translate for their bios and hire actual Translators. Some of those are painful to read.

The Spanish looks ok, really. I'll have my wife look at it, she's half Mexican.

Overcracker wrote:Hasbro needs to stop using Google Translate for their bios and hire actual Translators. Some of those are painful to read.

ExciKaiser wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Hasbro needs to stop using Google Translate for their bios and hire actual Translators. Some of those are painful to read.

Agreed, just want to kill myself each time I read french bios.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Kurona wrote:What's really confusing to me is why they didn't just outright sell him as Optimus Prime. I mean the name does have 'Prime' in it and it obviously looks like him, but surely hearing that a boxset has Optimus Prime would entice kids and parents to check it out?

How many "Optimus Prime" figures does a line need?

1. Is there a figure in the upcoming assortment not named Optimus Prime?
2. If yes, add another Optimus Prime to the upcoming assortment.
3. Repeat 1 and 2.

ExciKaiser wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Hasbro needs to stop using Google Translate for their bios and hire actual Translators. Some of those are painful to read.

Agreed, just want to kill myself each time I read french bios.

In fact it's very strange, I'm not sure it's google translate, at some point I start to believe it's a guy, but who is forced to use the same words as the english ones.

The sentence works (something which usually do not happens with G.translate), but the wording is definitely a no.

Qwan wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Kurona wrote:What's really confusing to me is why they didn't just outright sell him as Optimus Prime. I mean the name does have 'Prime' in it and it obviously looks like him, but surely hearing that a boxset has Optimus Prime would entice kids and parents to check it out?

How many "Optimus Prime" figures does a line need?

I imagine the general process is something like this:

1. Is there a figure in the upcoming assortment not named Optimus Prime?
2. If yes, add another Optimus Prime to the upcoming assortment.
3. Repeat 1 and 2.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Hasbro and FunPub using the name "Ginrai" in the past does not preclude Hasbro balking at using the Japanese name in the present.

Balking? Dude, this current Hasbro team has a hard on for Japanese G1. They'd take every opportunity to use whatever Japanese character names that they'd could if they wanted to.

Look at the Liokaiser set they did. The few names that they changed were only changed because they couldn't use names that had "Hell", "Kill", and "Death" in them at retailers, and were only changed just enough to try to still keep true to the original names as much as possible.

Ergo, they wouldn't just randomly change "Ginrai" to something as wildly un-Ginrai-like as "Magnus Prime" if they wanted him to be Ginrai.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Especially since that usage was on a toy sold at a convention and thus aimed directly at fans, while this is being aimed at a general market.

Hasbro used the name "Ginrai" in their 2003 Commemorative Series reissue of Powermaster Optimus Prime.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Except that said mech came to life as a true Transformer by the same name at the end of Masterforce,

Except that that guy stuck permanently to the name "God Ginrai" and never reassumed any of his other robot mode configurations, maintaining his God Ginrai configuration as his new default robot form, which the Magnus Prime bears little resemblance to and more like that of Super Ginrai, a form that was only ever assumed by the human Godmaster.

More importantly, the newly-living God Ginrai didn't have a detachable little companion anymore, being a singular whole Transformer from that point on.

Sabrblade wrote:Aw, they didn't try making the Base Mode look any closer to the original. It still looks like he's trying to copy Dai Atlas's Zone Mode.

Sabrblade wrote:Aw, they didn't try making the Base Mode look any closer to the original. It still looks like he's trying to copy Dai Atlas's Zone Mode.

Sabrblade wrote:Aw, they didn't try making the Base Mode look any closer to the original. It still looks like he's trying to copy Dai Atlas's Zone Mode.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder if we'll get a 2nd Titan Master with Overlord, or if we'll get a separate one by itself. If not an official one, there will be at least a 3rd party Mega (or Giga, whichever is missing), I hope.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder if we'll get a 2nd Titan Master with Overlord, or if we'll get a separate one by itself. If not an official one, there will be at least a 3rd party Mega (or Giga, whichever is missing), I hope.

They've already covered both between Overlord and Sky Shadow. Ominus's design is based on Mega while Dreadnaught's design is based on Giga. So they want us to buy both figures to get both of the Titan Masters based on Overlord's original Godmasters.

Sabrblade wrote:while Dreadnaught's design is based on Giga. So they want us to buy both figures to get both of the Titan Masters based on Overlord's original Godmasters.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder if we'll get a 2nd Titan Master with Overlord, or if we'll get a separate one by itself. If not an official one, there will be at least a 3rd party Mega (or Giga, whichever is missing), I hope.

They've already covered both between Overlord and Sky Shadow. Ominus's design is based on Mega while Dreadnaught's design is based on Giga. So they want us to buy both figures to get both of the Titan Masters based on Overlord's original Godmasters.

Caelus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder if we'll get a 2nd Titan Master with Overlord, or if we'll get a separate one by itself. If not an official one, there will be at least a 3rd party Mega (or Giga, whichever is missing), I hope.

They've already covered both between Overlord and Sky Shadow. Ominus's design is based on Mega while Dreadnaught's design is based on Giga. So they want us to buy both figures to get both of the Titan Masters based on Overlord's original Godmasters.

I'm not really knowledgeable about the Japanese series, but Giga and Mega were husband and wife, right? So if Dreadnaught and Ominus are based on Giga and Mega, what sort of relationship do Sky Shadow and Overlord have? Would they be Metamours? In laws?